Plain Old Tele Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Yeah, I heard about this. I seriously don't get why you wouldn't just hire someone else instead of making the rest of the cast adjust.Actually, I heard the Irish accents were to set the Macedonians off from the Greeks (who had British accents in the film). Basically a subtle way to indicate that the Macedonians were considered the wilder, more "uncultured" group.Regardless, it wasn't a very good movie.TROY is... okay. It doesn't hit any great notes and it kind of dodges away from anything remotely interesting or challenging. And, of course, I think it's (mostly) a terrible idea to avoid the mythology. But it's not terrible and Pitt does a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Troy was a box office hit and it has a Director's Cut that is considered a lot better than the theatrical version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Ridley Scott has been very hit or miss this past decade. Hopefully Prometheus is one of the hits. The Farrelly brothers haven't had a good movie in ages. Neither has Michael Bay, actually. M. Night will find some success in After Earth, because it's the first of his movies that he isn't writing, but it won't be a return to form or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 M. Night is OK. He never got up that high. I just dont unerstand how Robert Zemeckis got in the situation that he has been for 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Bay doesn't really have anything to "recover" to. You either like his work or you don't. He's never going to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 and the Rock and Armageddon are terrible so actually Transformers is better.But, nope, tis the Internet means Bay = explosions, shit and hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acab Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 John CarpenterJohn McTiernanRichard KellyAtom Egoyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitcher Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) the Rock... terrible so actually Transformers is better.Blasphemy.Also, I agree that both Peter Weir (though The Way Back was pretty good) and Wolfgang Petersen should be given another chance. I was pissed when I heard Wolfgang was replaced by goddamn Gavin Hood as the director of Ender's Game. (though perhaps his involvement was only a rumor, I'm not sure)I also have fond memories of early movies of directors such as Walter Hill (The Driver, Southern Comfort, The Warriors), John Boorman (Zardoz! Excalibur! Deliverance!) or John Milius (wrote Apocalypse Now and some episodes of Rome, directed first Conan and Red Dawn) but I doubt they'll ever get a chance to flourish again, except maybe for Walter who's just done Bullet to the Head. Edited April 28, 2012 by Bitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I always thought Troy was dramatically inert. Pitt was terribly miscast, and I can still remember being horrified in the theater by the awfulness of James Horner's score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Pitt was not miscast. He was excellent. And I know it's down to taste, but I fucking loved the score. That howling lady, maybe that jarred people, but I thought it was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Horner's score for Troy is one of his worst. He wrote in 4 weeks as a last-minute replacement and it shows because A LOT of the score is simply a derivative reworking either of previous scores he composed or of noteworthy modern classical music pieces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb02 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Troy was badass. In my top 10 ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 It's a total mess, but the kind of fascinating total mess that you could watch more than once imo. I watched it one time on one of the movie channels and don't want to ever see it again. Long movies take patience to begin with, never mind long movies that suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webslinger Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I'd put Cameron Crowe up for this discussion. While We Bought a Zoo was an enjoyable movie despite its unevenness, we're talking about the man who once cranked out Jerry Maguire and Almost Famous. I think he could make another movie as great as those ones, but it's hard to say how, especially when the moves of writing from the heart (Elizabethtown, which was a mess despite its good intentions) and going outside the box (Vanilla Sky, which basically split audiences right down the middle; personally, I wasn't quite on board with it) are what knocked him off the pedestal he was on after picking up an Oscar for Almost Famous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycruise Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 I watched it one time on one of the movie channels and don't want to ever see it again. Long movies take patience to begin with, never mind long movies that suck.I watched it on tv one too and it had the worst jump cut editing I have ever seen, one second they are in the city and its all loud cause they are partying and the next second it cuts to Brad Pitt in complete silence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Troy was badass. In my top 10 ever.Dankeschon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Walter Hill's done some TV work over the years -- Deadwood and other westerns.Peter Weir just takes a while between projects, not only because he chooses carefully, but also because he's very involved with the development, and tends to avoid studios at this point because they interfere so much (or, to be fair, tend to have different goals than him). But MASTER & COMMANDER is one of the very best literate, thoughtful epics in many years. I didn't feel THE WAY BACK completely worked, but it was certainly an interesting project and worth watching.Carpenter's in semi-retirement now, although he's done some "Masters of Horror" TV work.I don't know if Richard Kelly has anything to really return to. One film doesn't really make a career; he's basically done the crazy weird-out thing for three straight movies -- one worked, the other two didn't (although I sorta love SOUTHLAND TALES as a fucked-up train wreck quasi-masterpiece). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I don't see much hope for Shyamalan. He has his head completely up his ass and doesn't seem to be willing to admit when he makes a mistake. That's the first thing you've got to do if you hope to resurrect your career.I think Petersen still has it in him if he finds the right project.Zemeckis just needs to get away from motion capture. I hoped Disney finally shutting down his studio would lead to that but for God knows what reason Universal decided to bail him out.tribefan695 pretty much summed up my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycruise Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 I think M&C is a great movie, too bad it flopped, I think it had to do a lot with the release date, going up against LOTR was not a good choice, and I think it being in the same year as POTC(another movie on the high seas) also hurt it.Really unfortunate they won't make a sequel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I think Zemeckis still has it in him. The sooner he's over this CGI love-fest the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
