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Blade Runner 2049 | October 6, 2017 | Villeneuve directs | Full Trailer on Page 40

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14 minutes ago, Hatebox said:

 

Not to defend a film I haven't even seen yet, but it's worth bearing in mind that one could easily make a seemingly action-packed trailer of the first film with some clever editing. That's certainly what contemporary audiences went in expecting.

 

Which is exactly my point. This trailer clearly suggests the studio wants us to think this is an action'er. This doesn't sound promising because in the very first full-length trailer they decided to better play safe than risk confusing the audience. And that's exactly my fear, that the financial standing weighted too much and it forced the studio to play too safe on this project and as a result it ends up being a turd like Robocop or Total Recall reboot.

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14 minutes ago, vc2002 said:

 

Which is exactly my point. This trailer clearly suggests the studio wants us to think this is an action'er.

 

Does it, though? There's a big explosion, but the rest is moody ambience with little hint of the plot. If anything the marketing's target seems to be the original's fans more than the GA.

 

As it happens I do think it'll have more action because audience expectations have gone so far in that direction. But between Villeneuve, Scott and Fancher's sensibilities, a sanitised retread in the vein of Robocop and Total Recall seems out of the question at this point. Unless it's the biggest cocktease in movie history.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

You people live in a sad world where there is only two visionary directors to appear in the last 10 years or so :

 

Nolan

Villeneuve

 

The world is bigger.

 

Can't forget the man, the myth, the legend; Kenneth Lonergan. 

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11 minutes ago, Hatebox said:

 

Does it, though? There's a big explosion, but the rest is moody ambience with little hint of the plot. If anything the marketing's target seems to be the original's fans more than the GA.

 

As it happens I do think it'll have more action because audience expectations have gone so far in that direction. But between Villeneuve, Scott and Fancher's sensibilities, a sanitised retread in the vein of Robocop and Total Recall seems out of the question at this point. Unless it's the biggest cocktease in movie history.

 

 

 

Audience have been educated by all kinds of sci-fi's for so many years. And it also doesnt help that the original is a complete financial failure.

 

But no they're not targeting more at the original's fans. They shouldn't. On projects like this, the GA are always your first concern, and "pleasing the original fans" is always JUST the icing on the cake. I think a similar topic has been discussed a lot in GITS thread.

 

I dont think this will be as poor as Robocop reboot, but I do think this is likely going to be a big letdown.

 

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2 hours ago, The Futurist said:

You people live in a sad world where there is only two visionary directors to appear in the last 10 years or so :

 

Nolan

Villeneuve

 

The world is bigger.

 

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Well, there's also Tim Miller.

:sparta:

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3 hours ago, The Panda said:

 

Dont insult Villeneuve by comparing him to Nolan, he surpassed Nolan a long time ago.

 

Not in mass appeal. Not even close and this won't be his Inception. Nolan has that rare mix of critical, awards and mega boxoffice support. 

 

Arrival couldn't even clear 100M overseas. Some people say Nolan makes cold movies, but if that was the case, than Villeneiuve movies would be positively buried in Arctic ice. The guy has no sense of warmth whatsoever. 

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7 minutes ago, shayhiri said:

Len Wiseman is the best.

 

He's proven himself with Total Recall alone. Best sci fi action movie ever made. I've seen it countless times - and it's brilliant. No GitS or BR2049 here could ever reach it.

 

Somewhere Paul Verhoeven can't stop laughing. 

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1 hour ago, Valonqar said:

 

Not in mass appeal. Not even close and this won't be his Inception. Nolan has that rare mix of critical, awards and mega boxoffice support. 

 

Arrival couldn't even clear 100M overseas. Some people say Nolan makes cold movies, but if that was the case, than Villeneiuve movies would be positively buried in Arctic ice. The guy has no sense of warmth whatsoever. 

 

I didn't know Nolan had an Oscar (or nomination) :ph34r:

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20 minutes ago, The Panda said:

 

I didn't know Nolan had an Oscar (or nomination) :ph34r:

 

AMPAS

 

 

Inception - best picture, best original script

memento - best original script

 

BAFTA

 

Inception - picture, director, script

 

GG

 

memento - picture (drama), script

inception - director, script

 

Indie Spirit

 

memento - feature, director, script

 

DGA

 

memento

TDK

inception

 

PGA

 

TDK

inception

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Christopher_Nolan

 

Now remind me which Villeneuve movie crossed 200 worldwide? ;)

 

 

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This certainly looks incredibly pretty and atmospheric but I'm not sold tbh. The original is obviously as influential and purty as it gets but outside of Harrison Ford's charisma and the Tears in The Rain speech that movie bores me to tears, and I'd like to think I'm not a dummie who can't understand it. It feels like it's empty and emotionless and people have replaced that over the years with "thoughtful" and "meditative." This looks like a more complicated and overwrought version. Also controversial opinion as someone who loved Sicario/Prisoners I thought Arrival was kinda ass so I'm not as thrilled to see dude do sci-fi again. Arrival to me was a dumb movie trying very hard to be smart, and when you combine that with Blade Runner, I mean...

 

But anyway, glad people like it and stuff. 

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