Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[IronJimbo]

MATTHEW I hope you're ready for 2b from China alone for A2

[Stewart]

9 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

Given the first feature film was made in Australia it’s fair to consider Australia a fairly mature market. 

 

Did Avatar almost double the previous top grossing film in local currency anywhere else?

Just a few I found from this handy thread: 

 

On 11/7/2017 at 6:33 PM, Stas said:

Ukraine all-time box-office.

 

Rank	Title	Year	Admissions	Gross, ₴	Gross, $
1	Avatar	2009	1 544 286	~ 70 000 000	8 738 665
2	Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales	2017	1 242 373	96 380 052	3 673 723
3	The Secret Life of Pets	2016	1 182 908	73 098 521	2 828 174
4	Suicide Squad	2016	1 047 985	74 855 129	2 916 352
5	Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted	2012	955 602	~ 39 000 000	4 861 381
6	Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides	2011	928 616	~ 42 000 000	5 268 571
7	Ice Age 4: Continental Drift	2012	914 330	~ 36 000 000	4 513 729
8	Despicable Me 3	2017	892 101	61 224 325	2 347 558
9	2012	2009	889 196	~ 26 000 000	3 256 007
10	Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa	2008	888 803	~ 21 000 000	3 626 871
11	Doctor Strange	2016	871 840	66 359 731	2 431 951
12	Minions	2015	861 038	45 053 369	1 979 561
13	Zootopia	2016	858 538	52 696 401	2 097 319
14	Shrek Forever After	2010	853 441	~ 32 000 000	4 007 651
15	Viy (Вій 3D)	2014	849 577	~ 38 000 000	4 554 937
16	Furious 7	2015	848 596	46 168 069	2 144 568
17	Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them	2016	837 005	65 723 605	2 407 458
18	Hotel Transylvania 2	2015	832 890	44 836 757	1 910 044
19	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	2015	822 382	67 545 604	2 509 424
20	The Fate of the Furious	2017	820 471	63 393 338	2 357 506

 

 

On 2/18/2016 at 8:05 AM, peludo said:

Spain - Update

 

1. Avatar: €77,032,767

2. 8 Apellidos Vascos: €55,352,976

3. The Impossible: €42,408,547

4. Titanic: €41,615,692

5. 8 Apellidos Catalanes: €36,119,054

6. Star Wars VII: €32,976,286

7. The Return of the King: €32,933,303

8. The Fellowship of the Ring: €31,332,601

9. The Two Towers: €29,793,649

10. Pirates of the Caribbean 2: €28,272,305

 

 

On 7/27/2016 at 9:48 PM, Onri said:

RUSSIA all-time lists. More about rubles list in Russia's thread (link) or 99%-correct top-100 list (link). Admissions list only in Russia's thread (link).

 

TOP GROSSERS ALL-TIME IN RUBLES:

 

3,64B ₽  Avatar  2009
2,28B ₽  Zootopia  2016
1,87B ₽  Minions  2015
1,87B ₽  Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens  2015
1,78B ₽  Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides  2011
1,77B ₽  Deadpool  2016       
1,74B ₽  Furious 7  2015    
1,72B ₽  Avengers: Age of Ultron  2015  
1,68B ₽  The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies  2014

1,67B ₽  Stalingrad (local Сталинград)  2013

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1,64B ₽  Ice Age: Continental Drift  2012
1,60B ₽  Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted  2012
1,58B ₽  Shrek Forever After  2010   
1,54B ₽  Transformers: Age of Extinction  2014  
1,53B ₽  Puss in Boots  2011
1,50B ₽  The Crew * (local Экипаж)  2016

 

1,48B ₽  The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug  2013
1,48B ₽  Warcraft *  2016
1,39B ₽  Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs  2009
1,38B ₽  Iron Man 3  2013
1,36B ₽  The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 2  2012
1,36B ₽  Guardians of the Galaxy  2014
1,36B ₽  The Jungle Book  2016

 

TOP ADMISSIONS ALL-TIME:

 

14,21M  Avatar  2009
9,38M  Zootopia  2016
8,79M  The Irony of Fate. The Sequel (local Ирония судьбы. Продолжение)  2007
8,46M  Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs  2009
8,43M  Minions  2015

7,83M  Shrek Forever After  2010
7,74M  Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa  2008
7,69M  Ice Age: Continental Drift  2012  
7,44M  Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted  2012   
7,43M  Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides  2011

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7,41M  Day Watch (local Дневной дозор)  2005

 

6,87M  Puss in Boots  2011   
6,78M  Deadpool  2016
6,26M  Furious 7   2015
6,19M  Stalingrad (local Сталинград)  2013
6,18M  The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 2  2012
6,13M  2012  2009   

6,12M  9th Company (local 9-ая рота)  2005
6,02M  Avengers: Age of Ultron  2015  

 

5,80M  Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens  2015

5,73M  Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest  2006
5,64M  Transformers: Age of Extinction  2014
5,60M  Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End  2007

5,58M  The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies  2014
5,54M  Warcraft *  2016
5,42M  Despicable Me 2  2013
5,39M  The Admiral (local Адмиралъ)  2008
5,38M  The Crew * (local Экипаж)  2016
5,31M  Maleficent  2014
5,31M  Guardians of the Galaxy  2014
5,30M  Yolki 3 (local Елки 3)  2013
5,29M  The Jungle Book  2016

 

 

 

[SchumacherFTW]

I can see Endgame beating Avatar here in the UK, but only by around £1m/2m. The rest of Europe? Highly doubtful. 

[Stewart]

2 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said:

I can see Endgame beating Avatar here in the UK, but only by around £1m/2m. The rest of Europe? Highly doubtful. 

I see that as an optimistic case personally. And there's no chance in hell it matches the USD total for it

[DeeCee]

I can’t see Endgame beating Avatar in Australia. 

 

With IMAX Sydney closed that’s AUD2m off the table. 

[Darth Lehnsherr]

Yeah Avatar 2 is gonna have a tough time matching the first one in USD in Australia. With current exchange rates it would need to make $30M AUD more just for it to match the USD total of the first. 

[SchumacherFTW]

15 minutes ago, feasby007 said:

I see that as an optimistic case personally. And there's no chance in hell it matches the USD total for it

Hence my emphasis on Stirling. The value of the pound has absolutely catered in the last 10 yrs since Avatar. Cheers Farage. 

[DeeCee]

7 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said:

Hence my emphasis on Stirling. The value of the pound has absolutely catered in the last 10 yrs since Avatar. Cheers Farage. 

But you’re free to choose your destiny now. 

[SchumacherFTW]

20 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

But you’re free to choose your destiny now. 

I chose emigration 

[DeeCee]

13 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said:

I chose emigration 

We’re cutting our cap from 190,000 per annum to 160,000 per annum. 

 

Caveat emptor.  Australia and NZ have a very close economic arrangement.  It’s called the Closer Economic Relations (CER). 

 

 

[peludo]

Concerning Spain, Avatar DOUBLED the previous all time record. It grossed €77m against the €38m from Titanic (it is at €41m right now, but it grossed €3m after Avatar, along 2012 re-release). Said this, Avatar did not matched the admissions record figure. It still ranks second (9.5 million), behind Titanic (11.2 million).

 

I do not see anything beating Avatar in euros or grossing over $100m here (it did $110m) in maybe next 20 years. It had the highest average ticket price ever (in 2009-2010 the Crisis still had not hit us so deeply) and the 3D boost was absurd.

 

We can look at admissions figure to see it better:

8 Apellidos Vascos, 2014 local hit, sold exactly the same amount of admissions than Avatar (9.5 million). However, it grossed a 29% less than Avatar (€55m vs €77m).

 

Another data: with today average ticket price (€6.5), 10 years after the release, Avatar would gross today €62m, still €15m behind first part. Even Titanic, the most attended film ever still do not adjust (€72.8m) to what Avatar did (€77m).

Edited April 20, 2019 by peludo

[George Parr]

7 hours ago, feasby007 said:

Does that bode well for The Lion King by any chance?

Tough to say. TLK was an absolute giant back in the 90s, and the musical and ancilliary stuff have kept its popularity high, but none of the Disney remakes have been particularly impressive so far. BatB was the most successful with a solid 3.4m admissions. It seems Germans aren't all that interested in seeing something that is just a slight variation of a movie that already exists, but who knows, maybe this time it's going to be different.

 

I'd say that IF one of the Disney-remakes should make it big, it's probably this one. But that's kind of a meaningless statement

[peludo]

7 hours ago, George Parr said:

Tough to say. TLK was an absolute giant back in the 90s, and the musical and ancilliary stuff have kept its popularity high, but none of the Disney remakes have been particularly impressive so far. BatB was the most successful with a solid 3.4m admissions. It seems Germans aren't all that interested in seeing something that is just a slight variation of a movie that already exists, but who knows, maybe this time it's going to be different.

 

I'd say that IF one of the Disney-remakes should make it big, it's probably this one. But that's kind of a meaningless statement

Considering that the original sold 5.1 million admissions, BatB "only" lost a 33% with the re-release. Applying the same to TLK we would be talking about 7.9 million admissions, what would mean about $75m in Germany (please, do not take too seriously. It is just an example)

[TomCruiseTop]

On 4/20/2019 at 11:18 AM, peludo said:

Concerning Spain, Avatar DOUBLED the previous all time record. It grossed €77m against the €38m from Titanic (it is at €41m right now, but it grossed €3m after Avatar, along 2012 re-release). Said this, Avatar did not matched the admissions record figure. It still ranks second (9.5 million), behind Titanic (11.2 million).

 

I do not see anything beating Avatar in euros or grossing over $100m here (it did $110m) in maybe next 20 years. It had the highest average ticket price ever (in 2009-2010 the Crisis still had not hit us so deeply) and the 3D boost was absurd.

 

We can look at admissions figure to see it better:

8 Apellidos Vascos, 2014 local hit, sold exactly the same amount of admissions than Avatar (9.5 million). However, it grossed a 29% less than Avatar (€55m vs €77m).

 

Another data: with today average ticket price (€6.5), 10 years after the release, Avatar would gross today €62m, still €15m behind first part. Even Titanic, the most attended film ever still do not adjust (€72.8m) to what Avatar did (€77m).

My mind can't comprehend the OS numbers of A1. What a beast. 

[Deuce66]

It would be great if he did a cameo of some kind. 

 

 

 

[Deuce66]

On 4/19/2019 at 3:13 PM, KP1025 said:

@Deuce66

 

I just wanted to say that BOM's Avatar gross for Taiwan is incorrect since it only includes the city of Taipei. Avatar is the highest grossing movie in Taiwan still by a large margin at NT$1.1 billion ($35.7 million using current ER).

 

What's the source for your number? 

[KP1025]

1 hour ago, Deuce66 said:

 

What's the source for your number? 

 

Here is a news article released after Avatar ended its run. The top 5 imported films of 2010 in Taiwan sorted by NT$ were:

 

Quote

1.《阿凡達》Avatar 全台票房 11億元台幣
2.《全面啟動》Inception 全台票房 2.8億元台幣
3.《鋼鐵人2》Iron Man 2 全台票房 2.6億元台幣
4.《玩具總動員3》Toy Story 3 全台票房 2.1億元台幣
5.《惡靈古堡4：陰陽界》Resident Evil: Afterlife 全台票房 1.8億元台幣

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20190202180604/https://tw.appledaily.com/headline/daily/20101217/33042904

Edited April 22, 2019 by KP1025

[TomCruiseTop]

10 hours ago, Deuce66 said:

It would be great if he did a cameo of some kind. 

 

 

 

I wonder if news outlets will falsely report that Arnold will be joining the cast like they did with Vin? 

[dashrendar44]

10 hours ago, Deuce66 said:

It would be great if he did a cameo of some kind. 

 

 

 

I hope that James Cameron re-invites Jackie Chan on the Avatar set so trades can run wild with "Vin Diesel, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jackie Chan starring in Avatar 2" headlines.

 

By the way, here's Jackie's account of his Avatar set visit:

 

 

 

Edited April 23, 2019 by dashrendar44

[TomCruiseTop]

2 hours ago, dashrendar44 said:

I hope that James Cameron re-invites Jackie Chan on the Avatar set so trades can run wild with "Vin Diesel, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jackie Chan starring in Avatar 2" headlines.

 

By the way, here's Jackie's account of his Avatar set visit:

 

 

 

I do love reading reporting on anything A2 etc. related, it reminds me just how useless and out of touch most journalists really are.