Tues #s (Asgard pg 136) R1 22.4 Sing 17.7 Pass 6 Moan 4.6 Ass 3.6 WH 3.4 Fen 3.1 LLL 2.6

[Jandrew]

17 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

There is a reason for that. The entire "Why did we wake up?" is 

 

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a red herring with a bad/plot-breaking explanation

 

 

Honestly not an excuse though. Still confusing and off-putting to the consumer. They shouldve already had this figured out in the marketing plan.

[Dingdong123]

MOANA IS DEAD

[Jandrew]

1 minute ago, Dingdong123 said:

MOANA IS DEAD

 

Okay dude, we get it. Damn.

[YM!]

2 minutes ago, Dingdong123 said:

MOANA IS DEAD

How? And what total is likely for it?

[edroger3]

54 minutes ago, GiantCALBears said:

Some of you are a little too obsessed with Disney animation, Moana is doing fine. The comparisons to Frozen were always insane & silly.

Moana is the new Disney's animated-musical-princess-thanksgiving movie released after Frozen. Or Frozen is the last Disney's animated-musical-princess-thanksgiving movie released before Moana. So it's the better-logical-normal-classic-intelligent comparison to do. If then, because Frozen is a too successful movie, someone prefer to compare with The Good Dinosaur or Strange Magic or Rise of The Guardians, it's ok, but more insane and silly. 

In the same way, you can say that to compare TFA with R1 is insane & silly because TFA is a too successful movie?

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[trifle]

54 minutes ago, elcaballero said:

I refuse to believe that back-end figure. That would be an insanely bad contract on Sony's part.

 

It is $20M against 30% of profit (in other words AFTER they break even).  And the $110M budget number after credits is consistent with numbers they have been giving all along.

 

They specifically wanted her, and her plan was to do indies for a while after finishing her franchises, but she loved this script.  I believe Sony saw having her as some level of insurance. I still am eager to see how it does overseas.

 

Unlike some who haven't seen it who don't like the plot twist, I think it gives the movie more depth.  It is a popcorn flick but a visually spectacular one with great acting.  I wouldn't be surprised at all at some tech Oscar nominations.

 

I also think the industry is going to need to look at the RT impact at some point, and I think this is one of a several films this year where a pile on there simply wasn't warranted.

 

It is an interesting question posed in the context of a thriller/romance, if I had to describe the movie. It is superficial at some points, but not unpleasantly, imho, and it is very well done.

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[trifle]

12 minutes ago, jandrew said:

 

Honestly not an excuse though. Still confusing and off-putting to the consumer. They shouldve already had this figured out in the marketing plan.

 

Sony USA clearly sucks at marketing.

[elcaballero]

9 minutes ago, YourMother said:

How? And what total is likely for it?

Under $250m = dead, apparently.

[Webslinger]

Solid enough for Rogue One. It was never going to have Force Awakens's extraordinary holiday staying power, so the fact that it's looking at a second weekend in the mid-to-high-60s is good.

 

Very good number for Sing. It's gonna slay during the week.

 

Passengers has been incredibly underwhelming so far, but such an outcome felt inevitable after the weak reviews began to stream in. Had the movie delivered upon its premise, I think it definitely could have soared over $100 million, even with direct competition from Rogue One.

 

Why Him? didn't start too badly for what looks like a very generic comedy.

 

Y'all need to cool off a bit about Moana. First, it's nowhere near the zeitgeist-capturing event that Frozen became three years ago, and second, it's up against another bright, fairly well-reviewed family movie that's pulling in strong business. An 8% week-to-week drop is fine, especially with the bump to come from further holiday weekdays.

 

La La Land held up nicely. The expansion on Sunday should bring about a strong weekend figure overall.

[terrestrial]

early weekend projections per BO.com

 

link to BO.com

 

ii is lenghty... = spoiler tag

 

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Friday, December 23 – Sunday, December 25, 2016 Projected Estimates

WIDE (1000+)

#	TITLE	WEEKEND		LOCATIONS		AVG.	TOTAL	WKS.	DIST.
1	Rogue One: A Star Wars Story	$67,500,000	-56%	4,157	0	$16,238	$289,499,674	2	Disney
2	Sing (2016)	$33,000,000	—	4,022	—	$8,205	$53,612,640	1	Universal
3	Passengers	$13,500,000	—	3,478	—	$3,882	$20,825,201	1	Sony / Columbia
4	Why Him?	$10,375,000	—	3,557	—	$2,917	$10,375,000	1	Fox
5	Assassin’s Creed	$9,000,000	—	2,970	—	$3,030	$16,492,398	1	Fox
6	Moana	$6,600,000	-48%	2,784	-803	$2,371	$179,632,191	5	Disney
7	Office Christmas Party	$4,700,000	-45%	1,630	-1580	$2,883	$41,739,602	3	Paramount / DreamWorks
8	Fences	$4,300,000	3221%	2,233	2229	$1,926	$4,491,515	2	Paramount
9	Manchester By the Sea	$3,400,000	-20%	1,213	7	$2,803	$20,115,116	6	Roadside / Amazon
10	Collateral Beauty	$3,100,000	-56%	3,028	0	$1,024	$14,101,500	2	Warner Bros. / New Line
11	Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them	$2,450,000	-52%	1,966	-1070	$1,246	$213,755,251	6	Warner Bros.

LIMITED (100 — 999)

#	TITLE	WEEKEND		LOCATIONS		AVG.	TOTAL	WKS.	DIST.
1	La La Land	$4,100,000	0%	205	5	$20,000	$11,982,711	3	Lionsgate / Summit
2	Jackie	$1,250,000	118%	339	255	$3,687	$3,561,442	4	Fox Searchlight
3	Arrival	$1,200,000	-60%	667	-1490	$1,799	$89,502,358	7	Paramount
4	Doctor Strange	$745,000	-66%	631	-1299	$1,181	$228,363,966	8	Disney
5	Trolls	$415,000	-70%	499	-1215	$832	$148,681,158	8	Fox / DreamWorks Animation
6	Hacksaw Ridge	$370,000	-61%	428	-913	$864	$63,742,876	8	Lionsgate
7	Allied	$200,000	-85%	228	-1397	$877	$39,307,022	5	Paramount

PLATFORM (1 — 99)

#	TITLE	WEEKEND		LOCATIONS		AVG.	TOTAL	WKS.	DIST.
1	Lion	$300,000	126%	55	39	$5,455	$1,153,433	5	Weinstein Company
2	Silence	$180,000	—	4	—	$45,000	$180,000	1	Paramount
3	Patriots Day	$180,000	—	7	—	$25,714	$275,412	1	CBS Films / Lionsgate
4	Miss Sloane	$60,000	-87%	67	-1396	$896	$3,457,950	5	EuropaCorp

4-Day Top 10 Projections:

1. Rogue One ($102 million)
2. Sing ($54 million)
3. Passengers ($21 million)
4. Why Him? ($15.1 million)
5. Assassin’s Creed ($12.7 million)
6. Moana ($11 million)
7. Fences ($7.8 million)
8. La La Land ($7 million)
9. Office Christmas Party ($6.8 million)
10. Manchester By the Sea ($5.1 million)

 

 

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[filmlover]

Just now, terrestrial said:

early weekend projections per BO.com

 

http://pro.boxoffice.com/weekend-projections-rogue-one-passengers-sing-assassins-creed-why-him/

 

ii is lenghty... 

 

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I don't think they're taking into account Lion will be expanding to 500 theaters tomorrow.

[langer]

R1 is heading to a 3,5X to 3,75X multiplier.  Hopefully that will put an end to the whole "extraordinary legs of TFA". Simply call them what they were : Christmas legs.  

[Lordmandeep]

Are they expecting a 33 million Monday lol

[terrestrial]

2 minutes ago, filmlover said:

I don't think they're taking into account Lion will be expanding to 500 theaters tomorrow.

I am not very familiar about in between patterns = possible, but...???

[DAJK]

Happy Christmas Eve guys  hope you guys all get to spend the next few days with people you love!

[Agafin]

8 minutes ago, langer said:

R1 is heading to a 3,5X to 3,75X multiplier.  Hopefully that will put an end to the whole "extraordinary legs of TFA". Simply call them what they were : Christmas legs.  

 

I think, until we get another 250m opener with those legs, we'll keep calling them what they are: extraordinary.

[langer]

1 minute ago, Agafin said:

 

I think, until we get another 250m opener with those legs, we'll keep calling them what they are: extraordinary.

 

You must be new to December box office.  You are forgiven.  

[La Binoche]

I thought $30M would be the ceiling for Manchester but now I'm thinking it can top Brooklyn. 

 

 

[terrestrial]

8 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Happy Christmas Eve guys  hope you guys all get to spend the next few days with people you love!

 

You too and to all the others here! 

 

Merry Christmas!

 

@Grand Moff Tele btw, if visiting the website anew... there is still the Thanksgiving greeting  

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

TFA's legs were incredible, December or not. It opened to $250m for god's sake, that's a huge amount of demand burned off. Obviously it had a bigger multi than it would have in Summer, but it was pretty spectacular nonetheless.