The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Porthos]

Joker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-1 day and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	249	25317	29028	3711	12.78%

 

Total Showings Added Today	5*
Total Seats Added Today	619
Total Seats Sold Today	1041

* Includes 1 showing from an non-reserved seating theater

 

T-1 Unadjusted Comps

	%		Sold T-1	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
It 2	97.15		1001	3820		0/233	19743/23563	16.21%		10.20m

 

T-1 Adjusted Comps #1 

	%		Sold T-1	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
DP2	56.11		835	5929		0/166	10226/16155	36.70%		10.44m
Joker (adj)	n/a		931	3327		0/249	18896/22223	14.97%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: Joker (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Deadpool 2.

 

T-1 Adjusted Comps #2 

	%		Sold T-1	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
Venom	122.17		498	2756		0/122	10414/13170	20.93%		12.22m
Joker (adj)	n/a		951	3367		0/249	21329/24696	13.63%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: Joker (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Venom.

[keysersoze123]

On 10/1/2019 at 10:41 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Day 9(T -2) Almost 2K tickets at Empire. But few shows have gone. Now there are just 33 shows listed at Empire.

 

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AMC Empire 25
Imax:98/303(430PM),267/303(730PM),156/303(1030PM)Total 521/909
Dolby:173/225(400PM),217/225(700PM),178/225(1000PM)Total 568/675
Prime:109/180(500PM),151/180(800PM),82/180(1100PM)Total 342/540
2D:2/122(A10 410PM),8/377(A13 415PM),6/121(A15 420PM),1/99(A11 440PM),4/158(A6 450PM),5/146(A7 510PM),
2/145(A25 520PM),6/309(A14 530PM),14/144(A20 540PM),12/134(A5 550PM),9/309(A9 6PM),18/121(A21 610PM),
10/126(A3 620PM),21/262(A17 630PM),20/99(A16 640PM),24/142(A19 650PM),8/122(A10 710PM),64/377(A13 715PM),
28/121(A15 720PM),25/99(A11 740PM),19/158(A6 750PM),17/146(A7 810PM),18/145(A25 820PM),49/309(A14 830PM),
8/144(A20 840PM),23/134(A5 850PM),4/309(A9 9PM),5/121(A21 910PM),4/126(A3 920PM),29/262(A17 930PM),
10/99(A16 940PM),15/142(A19 950PM),3/122(A10 1010PM),17/377(A13 1015PM),4/121(A15 1020PM)
0/99(A11 1040PM),11/158(A6 1050PM),2/146(A7 1110PM),6/145(A25 1120PM),7/309(A14 1020PM)
10/144(A20 1140PM),9/134(A5 1150PM).  Total 557/7383

Overall 1988/9177
 

AMC 34th St
Imax:391
Dolby:287
2d:230
Overall:908/2487

 

AMC Newport Center 11
Total Tickets sold:726/1356

 

AMC Kips Bay 15
Total Tickets sold:630/1414

AMC 19th St East
Total Tickets sold:344/795

 

AMC Magic Johnson Harlem 9
Dolby:202
2D:75
Total:277/1437

 

AMC Lincoln Square
Dolby:628
Imax:943
2d:287
Total:1858/5784

 

AMC Village 7
2d:338/512

 

AMC 84th St
2d:384/941

 

AMC Orpheum 7
2d:168/1861

 

AMC Jersey Gardens
Dolby:159
Imax:55
2d:14
Total:228/1861

 

AMC Aviation 12
Dolby:124
Imax:111
2d:27

Total:262

AMC DINE-IN Staten Island
Dolby:123
Imax:158
2d:131
Total:412/1863

 

AMC DINE-IN Menlo Park 12
2d:410/1537

 

AMC New Brunswick 18
Dolby:274/3873
2d:126
Total:400

 

AMC Brunswick Square 13
2d:183/808

 

AMC Freehold 14
2d:265/2656

 

AMC Monmouth Mall 15
Dolby:202
Imax:140
2d:120
Total:462/3236

 

AMC Brick Plaza 10
2d:329/751

 

 

AMC MarketFair 10
2d:123/698

 

AMC Neshaminy 24
Dolby:261
Imax:159
2d:26
Total:446/3124

 

 

AMC NY/NJ: 11266/49894

 

 

 

SF

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AMC Metreon 16
Dolby:     387
Imax:     562
2D:     264
Total Tickets sold:1213

48
AMC Bay Street SF
Imax:     163
Dolby:     345
2D:      48
Total Tickets Sold:556

AMC Saratoga 14
Imax:     128
Dolby:     291
2D:      36
Total Tickets Sold:455

AMC Mercado 20
Dolby:     436
AMC Kabuki
2D:     213

AMC Newpark
Dolby:     312
Imax:     105
2d:      95
Total:512

AMC Brentwood
Dolby:     189
Imax:      60
2d:      14
Total:263

AMC Eastridge 15
Dolby:     245
Imax:      95
2d:       53
Total:393

AMC Manteca 16
Total:138

 AMC San Francisco Total(9 Theaters):4179/19587

 

 

Few other cities

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AMC Dallas Area(119 shows)
 Total:2133/22017

AMC Houston Area(116 shows)
 Total:2303/24090

AMC LA Area(232 shows)
 Total:10448/36219

AMC Miami Area(88 shows)
 Total:3048/16228

AMC Orlando Area(57 shows)
 Total:1612/9402

 

Day 10(T-1).

 

We are close to endgame. It appears Joker is two-faced. Really strong in NYC, LA, DC but weaker in Texas or Florida.

 

Empire 25 all premium shows are close to sellout and will sellout tomorrow. 9 2d shows have disappeared and few others are filling up as well. I am curious if it will cross 3500 tickets tomorrow. That is the target.

 

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AMC Empire 25
Imax:135/303(430PM),272/303(730PM),193/303(1030PM)Total 600/909
Dolby:182/225(400PM),216/225(700PM),192/225(1000PM)Total 590/675
Prime:125/180(500PM),153/180(800PM),94/180(1100PM)Total 372/540
2D:2/122(A10 410PM),23/377(A13 415PM),8/121(A15 420PM),1/99(A11 440PM),5/158(A6 450PM),11/146(A7 510PM),
2/145(A25 520PM),16/309(A14 530PM),15/144(A20 540PM),11/134(A5 550PM),9/309(A9 6PM),33/121(A21 610PM),
12/126(A3 620PM),24/262(A17 630PM),20/99(A16 640PM),27/142(A19 650PM),7/122(A10 710PM),78/377(A13 715PM),
41/121(A15 720PM),29/99(A11 740PM),33/158(A6 750PM),29/146(A7 810PM),26/145(A25 820PM),57/309(A14 830PM),
8/144(A20 840PM),25/134(A5 850PM),4/309(A9 9PM),14/121(A21 910PM),4/126(A3 920PM),31/262(A17 930PM),
10/99(A16 940PM),15/142(A19 950PM),3/122(A10 1010PM),19/377(A13 1015PM),7/121(A15 1020PM)
2/99(A11 1040PM),12/158(A6 1050PM),2/146(A7 1110PM),8/145(A25 1120PM),7/309(A14 1020PM)
10/144(A20 1140PM),15/134(A5 1150PM).  Total 715/7383

Overall 2277/9177

 

San Francisco had a huge bump as well. Lots of premium shows almost sold out and prime 2d shows are filling up as well. One of the strongest markets when it comes to % of tickets sold

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AMC Metreon 16
Dolby:     416
Imax:     610
2D:     358
Total Tickets sold:1384

AMC Bay Street SF
Imax:     198
Dolby:     249
2D:      74
Total Tickets Sold:521

 

AMC Saratoga 14
Imax:     165
Dolby:     326
2D:      55
Total Tickets Sold:546

 

AMC Mercado 20
Dolby:     478

AMC Kabuki
2D:     300

 

AMC Newpark
Dolby:     352
Imax:     138
2d:     110
Total:600

 

AMC Brentwood
Dolby:     228
Imax:      97
2d:      33
Total:358

 

AMC Eastridge 15
Dolby:     280
Imax:     135
2d:       76
Total:491

 

AMC Manteca 16
Total:220

 

 

Few city/state level update. more than 75K tickets sold across 7 regions. That is around $1.2m worth as big cities and Imax/PLF ticket prices are crazy and they are huge % of overall sold tickets. This is still not overall number as sellouts are not showing and AMC is probably 1/3 of overall market if not lower. I am sensing low teens preview at minimum based on this but there are no prior precedent and so take it with a grain of salt.

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AMC LA Area(522 shows)
Total:24343/85137 (Great bump since the afternoon)

 

AMC San Francisco Total(9 Theaters):4898/19366

 

AMC NYC/NJ/PA Area Previews (47 Theaters/820 shows)
 Total:25591/103653

 

AMC Texas Previews (48 Theaters/504 shows)
 Total:10723/89192

 

AMC DC Area Previews (19 Theaters/182 shows)
 Total:4726/27942

 

AMC Orlando Area(78 shows) (It has gone down from yesterday probably bcos of sellouts)
 Total:1353/12415

 

AMC Miami Area(112 shows) (very strong % sales)
 Total:4021/18277

 

Edited October 3, 2019 by keysersoze123

[Porthos]

Gonzo amount of tickets sold today.  And continued to gain ground on It 2.  However, it did only out sell It 2 by 40 seats, so keep that in perspective.  At least some of it is the shortened window of pre-sales.

 

Regardless, if Sacto is any indication, 10m+ is a near certainty at this point for Thr.  11m might be very much in the cards.

 

Then there is that Venom comp.  A note about that.  Venom did crazy stupid walkup numbers the day of release, so keep that in mind.  It might be indicative.  Or it might just be a T-1 blip.  

 

One good thing is both Venom and It 2 had 5pm previews.  Which means while there will be some adjustment due to 4pm versus 5pm, it won't nearly be as bad as Deadpool 2, which had 7pm previews.  That almost certainly means Joker will be under-indexed against it.  Then again. DP2 over-performed a bit locally, I think.  So maybe it'll wash out in the end.

 

I might throw in the 4pm comps I do have in a separate post tomorrow for shits and giggles.  Depends on how good they look and if any of them pass the smell test and/or give a radically different result from what I'm already comping.

 

All in all, looking good for Joker on Thr.  After that?  Time will tell, as it usually does.

[TMP]

3 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Gonzo amount of tickets sold today.  And continued to gain ground on It 2.  However, it did only out sell It 2 by 40 seats, so keep that in perspective.  At least some of it is the shortened window of pre-sales.

 

Regardless, if Sacto is any indication, 10m+ is a near certainty at this point for Thr.  11m might be very much in the cards.

 

Then there is that Venom comp.  A note about that.  Venom did crazy stupid walkup numbers the day of release, so keep that in mind.  It might be indicative.  Or it might just be a T-1 blip.  

 

One good thing is both Venom and It 2 had 5pm previews.  Which means while there will be some adjustment due to 4pm versus 5pm, it won't nearly be as bad as Deadpool 2, which had 7pm previews.  That almost certainly means Joker will be under-indexed against it.  Then again. DP2 over-performed a bit locally, I think.  So maybe it'll wash out in the end.

 

I might throw in the 4pm comps I do have in a separate post tomorrow for shits and giggles.  Depends on how good they look and if any of them pass the smell test and/or give a radically different result from what I'm already comping.

 

All in all, looking good for Joker on Thr.  After that?  Time will tell, as it usually does.

Good job tracking this movie so far, your analysis has been fun to read on top of the numbers and comps provided

[DAJK]

Not a crazy day here for IMAX. I'll have actual comps tomorrow night, but the 4PM show and 9PM+ shows have started to pick up, numbers aren't just being monopolized by the 7PM shows. 

 

In terms of Friday however, it's looking actually stronger than Thursday (Friday's presales are about 120% of Thursday's at this point), there are 2 extra showings, but those have hardly any tickets sold, so it doesn't make much of a difference. Maybe I'm the outlier in frontloading, but it's at least encouraging. 

[Old Spice]

5 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Woops. 

[cax16]

4 hours ago, DAJK said:

Not a crazy day here for IMAX. I'll have actual comps tomorrow night, but the 4PM show and 9PM+ shows have started to pick up, numbers aren't just being monopolized by the 7PM shows. 

 

In terms of Friday however, it's looking actually stronger than Thursday (Friday's presales are about 120% of Thursday's at this point), there are 2 extra showings, but those have hardly any tickets sold, so it doesn't make much of a difference. Maybe I'm the outlier in frontloading, but it's at least encouraging. 

Tickets in the areas I’m tracking are pretty solid for Friday as well, I guess we’ll see how the weekend goes. 

 

I actually just did a quick count for Friday, for the 24 theatres I’m tracking Joker has a bit over 9000 seats sold for the day  so far, last night my count was 7384 tickets for preview night. Not sure what that means but it seems to be selling pretty good for Friday so far. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by cax16

[TheDarkKnightOfSteel]

23000 tickets sold in Greece with showings being limited after 10 am strictly.It’s a great number given the rating and the number of showings.Also bear in mind that,Greece is a very walk up friendly country so the fact that for today I see many near sold out and sold out showings, even though it’s not a discount day, is pretty damn impressive.Consider that I track the country’s biggest theater chain which only has discount on Wednesday.There is another chain that I don’t track but has discount today.

 

Also buzz from the Greek audience seems better than I though because the lack of action.It’s actually mostly raves for the time being.

Edited October 3, 2019 by TheDarkKnightOfSteel

[Valonqar]

So what Dom and OS OW we can expect?

[TheDarkKnightOfSteel]

Just now, Valonqar said:

So what Dom and OS OW we can expect?

I really have no idea.I want to say that it will break out but idk...it’s a weird beast.Right now I believe 95M DOM/~90OS/185M WW...that OS number is pure speculation as I am even more incapable of predicting OS than DOM.

[EarlyDeadlinePredictions]

CINEPLEX SCOTIABANK MONTREAL

 

JOKER - THURSDAY OCT 3 2019 (MORNING REPORT)

 

IMAX

4:30pm - 92/343

7:30pm - 239/343

10:30pm - 151/343

Regular

5:00pm - 37/318

8:00pm - 186/318

11:00pm - 36/318

70MM

4:00pm - 38/314

7:00pm - 170/314

10:00pm - 118/314

 

Overall looking fantastic. I'll do a final report with some comps tonight. 

[cax16]

Unfortunately I won’t be able to get any numbers later for final counts for preview night. I’m seeing joker at 7, and I’m also having surgery tomorrow so I have a lot of stuff to get together today/tonight after work for the weekend and for the family.

 

Hopefully all goes well and I can check in over the weekend to see how things went.

 

 

 

 

[cax16]

 

[filmlover]

Joker is getting the same number of screens IT Chapter Two did around here with the added benefit of having more showtimes since it's over 45 minutes shorter. Thinking it's gonna land in that same $90M ballpark at least at this point.

[Valonqar]

45 minutes ago, TheDarkKnightOfSteel said:

I really have no idea.I want to say that it will break out but idk...it’s a weird beast.Right now I believe 95M DOM/~90OS/185M WW...that OS number is pure speculation as I am even more incapable of predicting OS than DOM.

Those numbers are really big for R rated low-on-action character study. 

[Old Spice]

33 minutes ago, cax16 said:

Unfortunately I won’t be able to get any numbers later for final counts for preview night. I’m seeing joker at 7, and I’m also having surgery tomorrow so I have a lot of stuff to get together today/tonight after work for the weekend and for the family.

 

Hopefully all goes well and I can check in over the weekend to see how things went.

 

 

 

 

Enjoy the movie tonight, Cax, and good luck tomorrow. Make sure the surgeon doesn't have green hair!

[Justin4125]

25 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

Those numbers are really big for R rated low-on-action character study. 

Oh please. I mean technically yea, but at the end of the day this isnt just an R-rated character study. This is CBM featuring one of the most iconic CBM characters of all time. Between festival glory and controversies, its also one of the most talked about, attention grabbing movies of the year. Lets not pretend this is Taxi Driver, this is ultimately a highly marketable movie of which awareness and interest levels have been sky high since the film's announcement. Its aping the festival buzz and messaging that typically elevates even unknown movies to box office glory and combining it with the ravenous fan base and global awareness of one of cinema's greatest icons. To just compare this with true-to-form R-rated character studies does those movies a massive disservice

Edited October 3, 2019 by Justin4125

[Valonqar]

4 minutes ago, Justin4125 said:

Oh please. I mean technically yea, but at the end of the day this isnt just an R-rated character study. This is CBM featuring one of the most iconic CBM characters of all time. Between festival glory and controversies, its also one of the most talked about, attention grabbing movies of the year. Lets not pretend this is Taxi Driver, this is ultimately a highly marketable movie of which awareness and interest levels have been sky high since the film's announcement. Its aping the festival buzz and messaging that typically elevates even unknown movies to box office glory and combining it with the ravenous fan base and global awareness of one of cinema's greatest icons. Can we not just say "oh wow, a small R-rated character study is doing well at the BO" that so misses the point

Agreed but the fact is that it wasn't made in the usual SH/CBM action overload fashion with family frenziedly PG-13 rating. Are you trying to say this is an under-performance? 

[keysersoze123]

I managed to look at 324 theaters(2973) shows which covered most theaters outside of NY, Texas, LA. Not practical to run everytime as it took 2 hours to run !!!!! I missed probably dozen of reserved theaters but it would not have made a huge difference in larger perspective.

 

AMC US Previews (324 Theaters/2973 shows)
 Total:71450/506603

 

Overall ticket sales in AMC reserved theaters more than 140K plus all the sellouts and so I am thinking it must be 150K+. Probably at 2M+ just for thursday previews across these reserved theaters. In most smaller markets I see AMC "Classic" theaters which does not have any reserved screens.

 

I will be an optimist to predict low teens previews with huge walkins today as there are still lots of seats available.

[Menor the Destroyer]

Joker midday: 

Seats Sold: 75946 (46% of TLK at the same point) (+12237) (65% of TLK's pace at the same point)

Still on track for $11-12 million previews.