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57 minutes ago, SheevPalpatine said:

Hi Guys! I'm new here. I'd like to hear the opinion of some experts.

 

Can TROS beat TLJ's boxoffice, what do you think?

From what I've seen in previews and the (at the moment) lack of ANY marketing a month out, I'd say it will be very very difficult. If things suddenly turn around in the next couple of weeks, I'm willing to change my opinion.  But based on things right now-I'd say no.

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41 minutes ago, jedijake said:

From what I've seen in previews and the (at the moment) lack of ANY marketing a month out, I'd say it will be very very difficult. If things suddenly turn around in the next couple of weeks, I'm willing to change my opinion.  But based on things right now-I'd say no.

Well, the marketing will start after Frozen II premiere, I assume... Things can change after that...

 

Would be good, if we would have TLJ presale numbers day-by-day...

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On 11/11/2019 at 8:00 AM, Nova said:

Frozen 2 Monday Update 10 days out 

 

AMCa:

Regular: 142/142 sold out 

3D: 30/142

 

AMCb: 

Regular: 106/142 ; 31/142 

3D: 47/142 ; 4/142 

 

UA: 

Regular: 102/182 ; 60/102 ; 14/182 ; 12/102 

3D: 4/84 ; 0/84 

 

Cinemark: 

Regular: 63/108 ; 48/95 ; 65/108 ; 9/108 ; 0/108 

3D: 29/100 ; 0/100 

XD: 36/132 ; 10/132 ; 8/132 

 

No new seats or showtimes added since last check in. 114 additional seats sold since last check in.

 

Breakdown as follows: 

 

Totals: 820/2,806 or 29.2% 

Regular: 652/1616 or 40.3% 

3D: 114/794 or 14.3%

XD: 54/396 or 13.6% 

Frozen 2   7 days from previews 

 

AMCa: 

Regular: 142/142 

3D: 31/142 

 

AMCb: 

Regular: 109/142 ; 37/142  

3D: 57/142 ; 6/142 

 

United Artists: 

Regular: 112/182 ; 68/102 ; 24/182 ; 15/102 

3D: 4/84 ; 0/84 

 

Cinemark: 

Regular: 68/108 ; 57/95 ; 73/108 ; 0/95 ; 2/108 

3D: 32/100 ; 0/100 

XD: 40/132 ; 10/132 ; 8/132 

 

No new showtimes have been added. 75 additional seats have been sold. 

 

Breakdown as follows

Totals: 895/2,806 or 31.8%

Regular: 707/1616 or 43.7%

3D: 130/794 or 16.3%

XD: 58/396 or 14.6% 

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1 hour ago, SheevPalpatine said:

Well, the marketing will start after Frozen II premiere, I assume... Things can change after that...

 

Would be good, if we would have TLJ presale numbers day-by-day...

Marketing was supposed to take off after the trailer drop. That's how it has always worked.

 

Then it was supposed to take off after D+ launch. Still early, but that hasn't happened yet.

 

After Frozen 2 is tardy to the party. Still can be the life of the party, but it's still tardy to the party.

 

It's not going to suddenly double between Thanksgiving and December 19. At least I can't see that happening.

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About to put up my charts from last night. Just to let people know, I didn't post Frozen/TROS on Tuesday because of school stuff and midterms (never go to college kids. It'll ruin your life). I did get Frozen data on that day (sold about 55), but I ignored TROS on that day, so that's why it'll say "Tickets Sold the Past Two Days". Such is life.

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Charlie's Angels Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 47 173 9,872 1.75%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 54

 

Comp

0.366x of Hustlers 3 days before release (914K)

0.342x of Downton Abbey (719K)

0.558x of Maleficent (1.28M)

2.544x of Last Christmas (1.46M)

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Ford v Ferrari Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 38 173 8,646 2.00%

 

Comp

0.126x of Once Upon 3 days before release (733K)

0.861x of Angel Has Fallen (1.29M)

0.678x of Ad Astra (1.02M)

0.836x of Rambo (1.09M)

0.421x of Terminator (989K)

0.935x of Doctor Sleep (1.40M)

2.162x of Midway (2.00M)

 

Again comps seem poor, but it seems to be performing better elsewhere, so I'm still optimistic.

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Frozen II Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-8 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 71 1,057 16,112 6.56%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 81

 

Comp

7.094x of Maleficent 8 days before release (16.32M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.337x of Lion King (7.76M)

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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-36 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 1 165 8,359 29,108 28.72%

 

Total Seats Sold in the Past Two Days: 59

 

Comp

4.395x of Once Upon’s final count (25.49M)

2.413x of It: Chapter Two (25.34M)

1.702x of Joker (22.64M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.701x of Lion King (16.12M)

3.326x of Hobbs & Shaw (19.29M)

 

So I guess if divided, it would probably look about the same low to mid 20s the past couple days have been. Meh.

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4 hours ago, jedijake said:

From what I've seen in previews and the (at the moment) lack of ANY marketing a month out, I'd say it will be very very difficult. If things suddenly turn around in the next couple of weeks, I'm willing to change my opinion.  But based on things right now-I'd say no.

We really have to wait to see what the reviews for the movie end up being. If the critic reviews end up being as good as TFA's and TLJ's were then there is a very good chance it opens to just as much as TLJ did. If the reviews aren't so great it will probably fall in line with what JediJat has been saying. Right now Disney is more concerned about getting their streaming service off the ground than they are in getting people to buy tickets for TROS over a month out. Everyone knows that even if it doesn't open as strong as the previous two movies in the trilogy did it is still going to be a massive hit.

 

As far as the total box office that's nearly impossible to predict at this point considering we don't have any idea how good or bad it is going to be and how much repeat viewing it will get.

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Ford vs Ferrari is pacing behind Ad Astra for Thursday previews at Scotiabank Montreal. We'll see where it ends up tonight. Both had IMAX.

 

Charlie's Angels has no previews. Also all the showtimes throughout the weekend are in Ultra AvX and are looking dead. There are no regular shows. Bad idea for movie with little hype. Ford vs Ferrari has IMAX and Regular options.

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4 hours ago, Valonqar said:

Who's winning the weekend, FvF or CA? I need it for my Oscar predictions. 

Ford > 2x Charlie. Book it

2 hours ago, belligerent talking robot said:

Charlies Angel's because it has stronger passionate support

Impossible. CA OD PS is way below Ford OD with worse momentum. Ford OD will be like 3x CA OD.

 

Charlie's Angels OD PS

AMC OD - overall 1774 shows 7803/328729 118571.59 97655.64 post 6PM 925 shows 5768/173464 89785.58 72866.69
CIN OD - overall 1844 shows 3531/266781 38458.00 post 6PM 802 shows 2251/115305 27323.00 820AM 11/14

 

So about 11.3K total while Ford is at 41K PS for OD between 2 chains.

 

That said CA is all about WOM. if that is not bad it could redeem and may be have 15/45 kind of run. For now I cant see it open any bigger.

 

Ford will easily beat tracking. I am thinking 35m OW.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Ford > 2x Charlie. Book it

Impossible. CA OD PS is way below Ford OD with worse momentum. Ford OD will be like 3x CA OD.

 

Charlie's Angels OD PS

AMC OD - overall 1774 shows 7803/328729 118571.59 97655.64 post 6PM 925 shows 5768/173464 89785.58 72866.69
CIN OD - overall 1844 shows 3531/266781 38458.00 post 6PM 802 shows 2251/115305 27323.00 820AM 11/14

 

So about 11.3K total while Ford is at 41K PS for OD between 2 chains.

 

That said CA is all about WOM. if that is not bad it could redeem and may be have 15/45 kind of run. For now I cant see it open any bigger.

 

Ford will easily beat tracking. I am thinking 35m OW.

 

 

Officially no chance of Charlie’s Angels even popping up to high teens then. 
 

Not good. It could have better legs due to thanksgiving bump. But we’ll see. 

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