The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[filmlover]

 

 

[FlashMaster659]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-36 Days

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Seats Left	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	256	12577	53600	41023	23.46%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 37

[filmlover]

Hollywood Reporter:

 

Ford v Ferrari: $20M+ (Fox/Disney says high-teens)

Charlie's Angels: mid-teens (Sony says $12-13M)

The Good Liar: $5-7M

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-ford-v-ferrari-has-inside-track-charlies-angels-1254643

[lorddemaxus]

11 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Hollywood Reporter:

 

Ford v Ferrari: $20M+ (Fox/Disney says high-teens)

Charlie's Angels: mid-teens (Sony says $12-13M)

The Good Liar: $5-7M

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-ford-v-ferrari-has-inside-track-charlies-angels-1254643

Seems like FvF will overperform and Charlie's Angels will probably underperform by 2-3 mil. Anyone on this thread know if that Good Liar sounds right? I wonder if it will bring in an older walk-up friendly audience.

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, lorddemaxus said:

Seems like FvF will overperform and Charlie's Angels will probably underperform by 2-3 mil. Anyone on this thread know if that Good Liar sounds right? I wonder if it will bring in an older walk-up friendly audience.

It sounds about right tbh. Reviews are on the meh side, buzz is nowhere, and it's facing tough competition from Ford v Ferrari this weekend (with A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood and to an extent Knives Out the following weekends further taking attention away). I imagine WB's gonna be happy to see this year come to a close despite the massive overperformance of Joker given they've put out all these nonstarters this year.

[kitik]

4 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

I wonder if it will bring in an older walk-up friendly audience.

 

 

"Older audience" would probably prefer FvF or Midway.

[ZackM]

3 hours ago, Eric Plus said:

About to put up my charts from last night. Just to let people know, I didn't post Frozen/TROS on Tuesday because of school stuff and midterms (never go to college kids. It'll ruin your life). I did get Frozen data on that day (sold about 55), but I ignored TROS on that day, so that's why it'll say "Tickets Sold the Past Two Days". Such is life.

College was the best 6 and half years of my life.

[el sid]

Counted today at 10am EST:
Ford v Ferrari:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 115 (total tickets sold for Thursday) / 156 (total tickets sold for Friday, 5 showtimes)
Boston (AMC Assembly Row 12): 34 / 114 (8 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common 19): 102 / 152 (8 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 167 / 127 (7 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 36 / 49 (7 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 17 / 33 (5 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 45 / 30 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 335 / 431 (8 showtimes)
LA (AMC Bay Street): 102 / 125 (10 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 163 / 299 (10 showtimes)
Total tickets sold in 10 theaters till today for Thursday: 1.116 and for Friday: 1.516.

Yesterday it were 832/1.203 tickets.
Comps: AhF had on Thursday 654/580, Midway 398/487, Once Upon a Time 3.644/2.765 and Good Boys 1.056/965 (no T6 numbers due to that error). Looks good in comparison except for the OUATIH comp but therefor it won't be as frontloaded as Once Upon.
Overall I think 30M or a result close to that number is doable..

Charlie's Angels:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 61 (total tickets sold for Thursday) / 78 (total tickets sold for Friday, 5 showtimes)
Boston (AMC Assembly Row 12): 21 / 75 (4 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common 19): 25 / 66 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 34 / 17 (8 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 7 / 14 (4 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 12 / 12 (5 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 12 / 16 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 98 / 167 + still 2 reported sell outs (6 showtimes)
LA (AMC Bay Street): 3 / 41 (6 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 71 / 64 (9 showtimes)
Total tickets sold in 10 theaters till today for Thursday: 344 and for Friday: 550 (+ potentially 2 sell outs which would mean ca. another 200 tickets).

Yesterday 218/398.
Comps: The Kitchen had on Thursday 0/519, Black and Blue 244/262 (for Malef2 I have only 7 theaters on Thursday).
I go with mid- to high teens because of the better Friday number.

The Good Liar (no Thursday previews):

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): -
Boston (AMC Assembly Row 12): 24 (5 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common 19): 22 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 8 (4 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 5 (4 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 5 (5 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 2 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 70 (5 showtimes)
LA (AMC Bay Street): 13 (5 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 18 (5 showtimes)
Total tickets sold in 9 theaters till today for Friday: 167.

Yesterday it had 101.
Comps: The Art of Racing in the Rain had on Thursday 128/176 sold tickets, Blinded By the Light 0/146. So over 5M but under 10M. I hope it will do 8M.

Edited November 14, 2019 by el sid

[Krissykins]

Box office pro’ had Ford v Ferrari at $30m for so long I’m a bit surprised with low 20m’s being the high end. 

[cdsacken]

36 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Box office pro’ had Ford v Ferrari at $30m for so long I’m a bit surprised with low 20m’s being the high end. 

Same here I think 25 + aka 27-29

[narniadis]

Boxofficepro didnt move off of the 30m mark at least and the presales data supports it to a point. Just think the rest of the reporting groups are burned from how skewed last weekend was.

[keysersoze123]

Mid Day Previews Update

Ford vs Ferrari

AMC Prev - 19897/160677 312150.54  (874 shows)
CIN Prev - 11849/167694 $146513 (1120 shows)

 

Charlie's Angels

AMC Prev - 9889/182128 146310.58 (1013 shows)
Cin Prev - 3308/158424 $38230 (1152 shows)

 

Good increase but I am expecting both the movies to increase quite a bit by end of the day. Around 60% increase for Ford would take it to 2-2.25m previews. Charlies Angels will struggle to hit 1m previews but probably will cross that number with the Girl's night out screening yesterday.

 

Good news for Ford is that it has fewer preview shows than CA but starting tomorrow its taking the lead and PS for it is WAY HIGHER than CA as I posted earlier. So I am optimistic on Ford but its looking dire for CA.

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

1577

3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

1616

3926

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
7808	25	22870	34.14%	9	182

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

1580

3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

1618

3926

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
7835	27	22870	34.26%	9	182

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Frozen 2 Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

269

1030

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

289

1695

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1317	61	11390	11.56%	9	66

 

Showings added: 3

Seats added: 407

 

Adjusted Lion King comp: 12.88M

Frozen 2 Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

285

1030

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

306

1695

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1398	81	11390	12.27%	9	66

 

Adjusted Lion King comp: 12.78M

[TalismanRing]

NYC Local

 

NYC Local	Mon		Tues		Wed		Thur		Preview Start
Ford v Ferrari	50/1152	(4pm)	48/1152	(4pm)	53/1152	(4pm)	65/1152	(5:30pm)	6:00 PM
Charlies Angels	18/903	(4pm)	18/903	(4pm)	18/903	(4pm)	20/903	(4pm)	4:00 PM

 

Comps for Previews

FvF

Midway - $1.32m (19.36x multi)

Rambo:  $1.41m (14,5x)

Ad Astra: $2.3m   (12.66)

Gemini Man: $1.25m (13.26x)

 

Ad Astra is the outlier probably b/c of it's heavy reliance on IMAX.  Toss it and the avg is $1.33m

 

Internal multi should probably skew on the higher end since this isn't an action movie but a drama with action elements about a historic 50+ year old race.  Of these Midway may be the best multi- comp.  The Accountant: 18.3 If it starred older actors like Hanks in Sully: 25.9 or Bridge Of Spies (30.7) multi would be higher.

 

CA

Last Christmas: $.72m (19.89x)

 

Not a great comp since it's a Christmas movie in addition to being a  romantic comedy that probably skewed toward younger women.  But the Christmas theme gave it a slightly bigger multi than usual.   Hustlers : 13.3, Peppermint: 16.8, A Simple Favor 17.8

 

 

Full chart behind cut

Spoiler

 

NYC Local	Mon		Tues		Wed		Thur		Previews	Preview Start
Shazam!					129/2229	(Afternoon)	187/2229	(3:30pm)	$5.9m	4:00 PM
Avengers: Endgame	3948/4,736	(12am)			4,853/5493	(9pm)			$60m	6:00 PM
Aladdin			98/1242	(12pm)					$7m	6:00 PM
Godzilla 2					135/1915	(7:45pm)	204/2150	(3:30pm)	$6.3m	4:00 PM
X-Men: DP			103/942	(4pm)	209/942	(3:15pm)	272/942	(3:45pm)	$5m	6:00 PM
SLOP 2			38/771	(4pm)	43/771	(3:15pm)			$2.3m	6:00 PM
Toy Story 4			165/2049	(4pm)	233/2049	(7:40pm)			$12m	6:00 PM
SM:FFH	142/922								$2.8m	Midnights Only
The Lion King	236/3228	(6:30pm)	294/3228	(6:20pm)	444/3228	(4:30pm)	557/3228	(4:30pm)	$23m	6:00 PM
OUATIH			117/1179	(2:15pm)	159/1179	(4pm)	335/1179	(4:20pm)	$5.8m	4:00 PM
Hobbs & Shaw	60/1543	(5:20pm)			181/1543	(4pm)			$5.8m	7:00 PM
IT Part 2	147/2764	(9am)			239/2764	(7:10pm)			$10.5m	5:00 PM
Hustlers			45/512	(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)	$2.5m	6:00 PM
Downton Abbey (eps)			37/301	(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)	$2.2m	7:00 PM
Ad Astra			26/602	(4:30pm)	26/602	(4:30pm)	41/602	(4:30pm)	$1.5m	6:00 PM
Downton Abbey			31/512	(4:30pm)	39/512	(4:30pm)	52/1015	(4:30pm)	$2.1m	7:00 PM
Rambo			29/302	(4:30pm)	53/1242	(4:30pm)	58/1242	(4:30pm)	$1.3m	6:00 PM
Abominable			30/255	(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)	73/1969	(4:30pm)	$.65m	6:00 PM
Joker (-1 week)	104/2766	(9am)	172/2766	(4:30pm)			217/3536	(4pm)		4:00 PM
Joker	328/3536	(4:20pm)	399/3536	(4pm)	542/3536	(4pm)	760/3741	(3:45pm)	$13.3m	4:00 PM
Gemini Man			38/1004	(4pm)	38/1004	(4pm)	78/1004	[6:30pm]	$1.55m	7:00 PM
Adams Family		(4pm)	53/1373	(4pm)	49/1373	(4pm)			$1.25m	4:00 PM
Maleficent 2	39/1154	(4pm)	42/1154	(4pm)	33/834	(4pm)	96/1425	[6pm]	$2.3m	7:00 PM
Zombieland 2	51/1114	(4pm)	53/1114	(4pm)	67/1177	(4pm)	95/1478	[6pm]	$2.85m	7:00 PM
Black & Blue			19/410	(4pm)			20/410	(4pm)	$.68m	7:00 PM
Countdown			15/511	(4pm)			19/411	(4pm)	$.52m	7:00 PM
Terminator: DF	71/1242	(4pm)	71/1242	(4pm)	76/1242	(5:30pm)	113/1242	(4pm)	$2.35m	7:00 PM
Harriet	25/512	(4pm)	25/512	(4pm)	27/512	(5:30pm)	29/512	(4pm)	$.6m	7:00 PM
Midway	20/512	(4pm)	23/512	(4pm)	22/512	(4:30pm)	27/512	(5pm)	$.925m	7:00 PM
Dr Sleep	23/510	(4pm)	28/510	(4pm)	28/510	(4:30pm)	53/512	(5pm)	$1.5m	6:00 PM
Last Christmas	12/496	(4pm)	12/496	(4pm)	12/496	(4:30pm)	16/496	(5pm)	$.575m	7:00 PM
Playing With Fire	15/654	(4pm)	15/654	(4pm)	15/654	(4:30pm)	18/654	(4pm)		4:00 PM
Ford v Ferrari	50/1152	(4pm)	48/1152	(4pm)	53/1152	(4pm)	65/1152	(5:30pm)		6:00 PM
Charlies Angels	18/903	(4pm)	18/903	(4pm)	18/903	(4pm)	20/903	(4pm)		4:00 PM

 

Edited November 14, 2019 by TalismanRing

[keysersoze123]

Impact of reviews on F2 BO.

 

AMC D2 - overall 3822 shows 92220/789047 post 6PM 1729 shows 19593/364531 +8687
Cin D2 - overall 4453 shows 87825/749368 post 6PM 1643 shows 11377/280848 +8422

 

WOW. Good increase in past day. Let us see if the momentum continues.

[ZackM]

The Rise of Skywalker - Various theater chains (Michigan) - Premiere Night Seat Report: T-35 days and counting

 

	Last 24 Hours	Prior 24 Hours	Prior 24 Hours
Showings Added	0	0	2
Seats Added	0	0	413
Seats Sold	69	64	44
11/14/2019	Showings	Seats Left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Pct. Sold
Total	234	29,624	41,568	11,944	28.73%

[Old Spice]

Salt Lake Cinemark Sugarhouse preview night report for Ford vs Ferarri and Charlie's Angels. 3:45 PM local time.

 

Ford v Ferarri, 4 showtimes.

Total tix sold- 74/310 23.9%

 

Comps

137% of Rocketman = $35.2M OW

73% of Godzilla = $35M

67% of John Wick = $37.9M

 

Charlie, 3 showtimes.

Total tix sold- 12/186 6.5%

 

Really nice comeback by FvF on the final day, and I'm guessing with those stellar reviews and the relative lack of competition for the adult market this could be setting up for a leggy run through the holidays. I'll go with an OW of $36.5 and a final of $110M.

 

Charlie's trajectory hasn't shifted at all since tix went on sale. It's just dead, the latest example of "Why go to the theater for a non-event movie when you can just stream it in four months?" I'll go with an OW of $10.3 and a final of $25M.

 

Will update on F2 presales this weekend.

 

 

 

 

[Eric the Fall Guy]

Charlie's Angels Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	47	291	9,872	2.95%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 118

 

Comp

0.268x of Hustlers (670K)

0.474x of Downton Abbey (995K)

0.417x of Maleficent (960K)

1.682x of Last Christmas (967K)

 

I guess it should hit 1M, what with how early it starts. But...yeah, this was a bad final day.

[filmlover]

Charlie's Angels' sales have been disastrous around here as well. The $12-13M tracking is looking on the mark, if even that.