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Thor: Ragnarok got an early start in Germany today and sources tell us that its overseas cume will stand at $150M by tomorrow.  China alone this weekend is projected to make $50M and U.S./Canada is poised to make $100M-$120M per industry estimates at 4,080 venues over three days. Per one rival distribution chief, “Thor: Ragnarok will take up every single breath of the box office this weekend.” Disney insiders are betting that Thor: Ragnarok safely comes in at $100M-plus. Anything over that is gravy. Tracking shows that Thor: Ragnarok is playing strongly to all demos. The threequel is directed by New Zealand director Taika Waititi whose 2005 live action short Two Cars, One Night was nominated for an Oscar.

 

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Yesterday's tickets and showtimes

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Wednesday 11/1

 

Bad Moms 2 1:30 4 113 3.54%
Bad Moms 2 4:30 4 113 3.54%
Bad Moms 2 7:20 51 113 45.13%
Bad Moms 2 10:20 0 113  
Bad Moms 2 Total 59 452 13.05%

 

Thursday 11/2

 

Bad Moms 2 1:30 6 96 2.08%
Bad Moms 2 4:30 3 96 3.13%
Bad Moms 2 6:30 38 71 53.52%
Bad Moms 2 9:30 2 71 2.82%
Bad Moms 2 Total 49 334 14.67%
Thor 3 7:00 75 113 66.37%
Thor 3 10:25 55 113 48.67%
Thor 3 Total 130 226 57.52%

 

Friday 11/3

 

Bad Moms 2 1:30 0 102  
Bad Moms 2 4:30 0 102  
Bad Moms 2 7:20 77 102 75.49%
Bad Moms 2 10:20 14 102 13.73%
Bad Moms 2 Total 91 408 22.30%
Thor 3 3D 11:50 3 113 2.65%
Thor 3 3:15 25 113 22.12%
Thor 3 6:40 113 113 100.00%
Thor 3 10:05 57 113 50.44%
Thor 3 Total 198 452 43.81%

 

Saturday 11/4

 

Bad Moms 2 1:30 1 102 0.98%
Bad Moms 2 4:30 16 102 15.69%
Bad Moms 2 7:20 63 102 61.76%
Bad Moms 2 10:20 0 102  
Bad Moms 2 Total 80 408 19.61%
Thor 3 3D 11:50 32 113 28.32%
Thor 3 3:15 62 113 54.87%
Thor 3 6:40 113 113 100.00%
Thor 3 10:05 34 113 30.09%
Thor 3 Total 241 452 53.32%

 

Sunday 11/5

 

Bad Moms 2 1:30 7 102 4.90%
Bad Moms 2 4:30 24 102 23.53%
Bad Moms 2 7:20 23 102 22.55%
Bad Moms 2 10:20 0 102  
Bad Moms 2 Total 54 408 13.24%
Thor 3 3D 11:50 22 113 19.47%
Thor 3 3:15 67 113 59.29%
Thor 3 6:40 55 113 48.67%
Thor 3 10:05 0 113  
Thor 3 Total 144 452 31.86%

 

Thursday 11/9

 

Orient Express 7 4 71 5.63%
Orient Express 10:05 2 71 2.82%
Orient Express Total 6 142

4.23%

Daddy's Home 2 has sold nothing.

 

Friday 11/10

 

Daddy's Home 2 1:40 2 102 1.96%
Daddy's Home 2 4:35 0 102  
Daddy's Home 2 7:30 0 102  
Daddy's Home 2 10:30 0 102  
Daddy's Home 2 Total 2 408 0.49%
Orient Express 12:10 0 96  
Orient Express 3:20 0 96  
Orient Express 6:30 0 96  
Orient Express 9:40 6 96 6.25%
Orient Express Total 6 384 1.56%

 

11/11 and 11/12 have sold nothing for either movies

 

Thursday 11/16

 

Justice League 6 58 113 51.33%
Justice League 9:10 31 113 27.43%
Justice League Total 89 226 39.38%
Wonder 7 3 71 4.23%
Wonder 10:05 0 71  
Wonder Total 3 142 2.11%

 

Friday 11/17

 

 

Justice League 10 4 113 3.54%
Justice League 3D 1:10 0 113  
Justice League 4:20 25 113 22.12%
Justice League 7:30 60 113 53.10%
Justice League 10:35 6 113 5.31%
Justice League Total 91 565 16.11%
Wonder 12:20 0 96  
Wonder 3:25 0 96  
Wonder 6:30 14 96 14.58%
Wonder 9:40 0 96  
Wonder Total 14 384 3.65%

 

Saturday 11/18

 

Justice League 10 7 113 6.19%
Justice League 3D 1:10 4 113 3.54%
Justice League 4:20 39 113 34.51%
Justice League 7:30 31 113 27.43%
Justice League 10:35 3 113 2.65%
Justice League Total 84 565 14.87%

Wonder has sold nothing on this day.


Sunday 11/19

 

Justice League 10 3 113 2.65%
Justice League 3D 1:10 2 113 1.77%
Justice League 4:20 28 113 24.78%
Justice League 7:30 6 113 5.31%
Justice League 10:35 0 113  
Justice League Total 39 565 6.90%
Wonder 12:20 11 96 11.46%
Wonder 3:25 0 96  
Wonder 6:30 0 96  
Wonder 9:35 0 96  
Wonder Total 11 384 2.86%

 

Thursday 12/14

 

Star Wars Fan Event 6 102 102 93.14%
Star Wars 7 102 102 100.00%
Star Wars 3D 7:30 113 113 100.00%
Star Wars 8 77 96 80.21%
Star Wars 10:35 79 102 77.45%
Star Wars 11:05 68 113 60.18%
Star Wars Total 541 628 86.15%

 

Friday 12/15

 

Star Wars 11 34 102 33.33%
Star Wars 11:45 33 113 29.20%
Star Wars 1 15 102 14.71%
Star Wars 2:40 67 102 63.73%
Star Wars 3D 3:25 39 113 34.51%
Star Wars 4:40 50 102 49.02%
Star Wars 6:20 102 102 100.00%
Star Wars 7 113 113 100.00%
Star Wars 8:20 67 102 65.69%
Star Wars 9:55 71 102 69.61%
Star Wars 10:35 50 113 44.25%
Star Wars Total 641 1166 54.97%

 

Saturday 12/16

 

Star Wars 9:20 10 102 9.80%
Star Wars 11 73 102 71.57%
Star Wars 11:45 81 113 71.68%
Star Wars 1 50 102 49.02%
Star Wars 2:40 102 102 81.37%
Star Wars 3D 3:25 48 113 42.48%
Star Wars 4:40 40 102 39.22%
Star Wars 6:20 75 102 73.53%
Star Wars 7 84 113 74.34%
Star Wars 8:20 24 102 23.53%
Star Wars 9:55 36 102 35.29%
Star Wars 10:35 2 113 1.77%
Star Wars Total 625 1268 49.29%

 

Sunday 12/17

 

Star Wars 9:20 17 102 16.67%
Star Wars 11 62 102 60.78%
Star Wars 11:45 59 113 52.21%
Star Wars 1 35 102 34.31%
Star Wars 2:40 62 102 60.78%
Star Wars 3D 3:25 49 113 43.36%
Star Wars 4:40 10 102 9.80%
Star Wars 6:20 70 102 68.63%
Star Wars 7 52 113 46.02%
Star Wars 8:20 0 102  
Star Wars 9:55 7 102 6.86%
Star Wars 10:35 0 113  
Star Wars Total 423 1268 33.36%

 

Total:

 

Bad Moms 2 333 2010 16.57%
Thor 3 713 1582 45.07%
Daddy's Home 2 4 1366 0.29%
Orient Express 12 1294 0.93%
Justice League 303 1921 15.77%
Wonder 28 1294 2.16%
Star Wars 2230 4330 51.50%
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Today:

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Wednesday 11/1

Bad Moms 2 1:30 6 113 5.31%
Bad Moms 2 4:30 4 113 3.54%
Bad Moms 2 7:20 60 113 53.10%
Bad Moms 2 10:20 0 113  
Bad Moms 2 Total 70 452 15.49%

 

Thursday 11/2

Bad Moms 2 1:30 6 96 2.08%
Bad Moms 2 4:30 3 96 3.13%
Bad Moms 2 6:30 43 71 60.56%
Bad Moms 2 9:30 2 71 2.82%
Bad Moms 2 Total 54 334 16.17%
Thor 3 7:00 78 113 69.03%
Thor 3 8:45 7 71 9.86%
Thor 3 3D 9:15 0 71  
Thor 3 10:25 60 113 53.10%
Thor 3 Total 145 368 39.40%

 

Friday 11/3

Bad Moms 2 11:30 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 1:30 0 102  
Bad Moms 2 2:50 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 4:30 0 102  
Bad Moms 2 6:15 12 71 16.90%
Bad Moms 2 7:20 102 102 100.00%
Bad Moms 2 9:30 7 71 9.86%
Bad Moms 2 10:20 9 102 8.82%
Bad Moms 2 Total 130 692 18.79%
Thor 3 11 4 102 3.92%
Thor 3 3D 11:50 3 113 2.65%
Thor 3 12:30 1 96 1.04%
Thor 3 2:10 0 102  
Thor 3 3:15 30 113 26.55%
Thor 3 4 4 102 3.92%
Thor 3 5:30 0 102  
Thor 3 6:40 113 113 100.00%
Thor 3 7:45 44 96 45.83%
Thor 3 8:55 6 102 5.88%
Thor 3 10:05 61 113 53.98%
Thor 3 11:20 2 71 2.82%
Thor 3 Total 268 914 29.32%

 

Saturday 11/4

Bad Moms 2 10 1 71 1.41%
Bad Moms 2 11:30 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 1:30 3 102 2.94%
Bad Moms 2 2:50 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 4:30 18 102 17.65%
Bad Moms 2 6:15 2 71 2.82%
Bad Moms 2 7:20 65 102 63.73%
Bad Moms 2 9:30 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 10:20 0 102  
Bad Moms 2 Total 80 763 10.48%
Thor 3 10:15 5 102 4.90%
Thor 3 10:45 4 102 3.92%
Thor 3 3D 11:50 36 113 31.86%
Thor 3 12:30 9 96 9.38%
Thor 3 2:10 6 102 5.88%
Thor 3 3:15 65 113 57.52%
Thor 3 4 10 96 10.42%
Thor 3 5:30 19 102 18.63%
Thor 3 6:40 113 113 100.00%
Thor 3 7:45 12 96 12.50%
Thor 3 8:55 0 102  
Thor 3 10:05 38 113 33.63%
Thor 3 11:20 0 71  
Thor 3 Total 317 1321 24.00%

 

Sunday 11/5

Bad Moms 2 10 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 11:30 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 1:30 7 102 4.90%
Bad Moms 2 2:50 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 4:30 24 102 23.53%
Bad Moms 2 6:15 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 7:20 23 102 22.55%
Bad Moms 2 9:30 0 71  
Bad Moms 2 10:20 0 102  
Bad Moms 2 Total 54 763 7.08%
Thor 3 10:15 11 102 10.78%
Thor 3 10:45 0 102  
Thor 3 3D 11:50 22 113 19.47%
Thor 3 12:30 0 96  
Thor 3 2:10 15 102 14.71%
Thor 3 3:15 69 113 61.06%
Thor 3 4 7 96 7.29%
Thor 3 5:30 2 102 1.96%
Thor 3 6:40 55 113 48.67%
Thor 3 7:45 0 96  
Thor 3 8:55 2 102 1.96%
Thor 3 10:05 0 113  
Thor 3 Total 183 1250 14.64%

 

Thursday 11/9

Orient Express 7 4 71 5.63%
Orient Express 10:05 2 71 2.82%
Orient Express Total 6 142 4.23%

Daddy's Home has sold nothing.

 

Friday 11/10

Daddy's Home 2 1:40 2 102 1.96%
Daddy's Home 2 4:35 0 102  
Daddy's Home 2 7:30 0 102  
Daddy's Home 2 10:30 0 102  
Daddy's Home 2 Total 2 408 0.49%
Orient Express 12:10 3 96 3.13%
Orient Express 3:20 0 96  
Orient Express 6:30 0 96  
Orient Express 9:40 6 96 6.25%
Orient Express Total 9 384 2.34%

 

Saturday 11/11

Daddy's Home 2 1:40 0 102  
Daddy's Home 2 4:35 2 102 1.96%
Daddy's Home 2 7:30 0 102  
Daddy's Home 2 10:30 0 102  
Daddy's Home 2 Total 2 408 0.49%
Orient Express 12:10 0 96  
Orient Express 3:20 0 96  
Orient Express 6:30 2 96 2.08%
Orient Express 9:40 0 96  
Orient Express Total 2 384 0.52%

 

Sunday 11/12

Orient Express 12:10 0 96  
Orient Express 3:20 2 96 2.08%
Orient Express 6:30 0 96  
Orient Express 9:40 0 96  
Orient Express Total 2 384 0.52%

Daddy's Home has sold nothing.

 

Thursday 11/16

Justice League 6 58 113 51.33%
Justice League 9:10 31 113 27.43%
Justice League Total 89 226 39.38%
Wonder 7 3 71 4.23%
Wonder 10:05 0 71  
Wonder Total 3 142 2.11%

 

Friday 11/17

Justice League 10 4 113 3.54%
Justice League 3D 1:10 0 113  
Justice League 4:20 27 113 23.89%
Justice League 7:30 71 113 62.83%
Justice League 10:35 8 113 7.08%
Justice League Total 110 565 19.47%
Wonder 12:20 0 96  
Wonder 3:25 0 96  
Wonder 6:30 20 96 20.83%
Wonder 9:40 0 96  
Wonder Total 20 384 5.21%

 

Saturday 11/18

Justice League 10 7 113 6.19%
Justice League 3D 1:10 4 113 3.54%
Justice League 4:20 47 113 41.59%
Justice League 7:30 33 113 29.20%
Justice League 10:35 3 113 2.65%
Justice League Total 94 565 16.64%
Wonder 12:20 0 96  
Wonder 3:25 0 96  
Wonder 6:30 5 96 5.21%
Wonder 9:35 0 96  
Wonder Total 5 384 1.30%

 

Sunday 11/19

Justice League 10 3 113 2.65%
Justice League 3D 1:10 2 113 1.77%
Justice League 4:20 37 113 32.74%
Justice League 7:30 6 113 5.31%
Justice League 10:35 0 113  
Justice League Total 48 565 8.50%
Wonder 12:20 13 96 13.54%
Wonder 3:25 0 96  
Wonder 6:30 0 96  
Wonder 9:35 0 96  
Wonder Total 13 384 3.39%

 

Thursday 12/14

Star Wars Fan Event 6 102 102 93.14%
Star Wars 7 102 102 100.00%
Star Wars 3D 7:30 113 113 100.00%
Star Wars 8 77 96 80.21%
Star Wars 10:35 79 102 77.45%
Star Wars 11:05 72 113 63.72%
Star Wars Total 545 628 86.78%

 

Friday 12/15

Star Wars 11 34 102 33.33%
Star Wars 11:45 33 113 29.20%
Star Wars 1 15 102 14.71%
Star Wars 2:40 67 102 63.73%
Star Wars 3D 3:25 39 113 34.51%
Star Wars 4:40 50 102 49.02%
Star Wars 6:20 102 102 100.00%
Star Wars 7 113 113 100.00%
Star Wars 8:20 67 102 65.69%
Star Wars 9:55 71 102 69.61%
Star Wars 10:35 50 113 44.25%
Star Wars Total 641 1166 54.97%

 

Saturday 12/16

Star Wars 9:20 10 102 9.80%
Star Wars 11 75 102 73.53%
Star Wars 11:45 81 113 71.68%
Star Wars 1 50 102 49.02%
Star Wars 2:40 102 102 81.37%
Star Wars 3D 3:25 48 113 42.48%
Star Wars 4:40 40 102 39.22%
Star Wars 6:20 75 102 73.53%
Star Wars 7 84 113 74.34%
Star Wars 8:20 24 102 23.53%
Star Wars 9:55 36 102 35.29%
Star Wars 10:35 2 113 1.77%
Star Wars Total 627 1268 49.45%

 

Sunday 12/16

Star Wars 9:20 17 102 16.67%
Star Wars 11 62 102 60.78%
Star Wars 11:45 59 113 52.21%
Star Wars 1 35 102 34.31%
Star Wars 2:40 62 102 60.78%
Star Wars 3D 3:25 49 113 43.36%
Star Wars 4:40 10 102 9.80%
Star Wars 6:20 70 102 68.63%
Star Wars 7 52 113 46.02%
Star Wars 8:20 0 102  
Star Wars 9:55 7 102 6.86%
Star Wars 10:35 0 113  
Star Wars Total 423 1268 33.36%
 

 

Overall Total:

Bad Moms 2 388 3004 12.92%
Thor 3 913 3853 23.70%
Daddy's Home 2 4 1366 0.29%
Orient Express 19 1294 1.47%
Justice League 303 1921 15.77%
Wonder 41 1294 3.17%
Star Wars 2236 4330 51.64%

 

Both Thor and Bad Moms got a bunch more showtimes in, since the rest of the returnees will make diddly squat, and again, both are doing well relative to expectations. Wonder also saw a big boost in tickets sold, thanks to a group or two buying tickets.

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2nd local is up...

 

New

Thor (3 + 1 extra 3d showing - 6 3d/10 2d)

Bad Moms (1 + 1 extra evening showing - 7 total)

 

Returning

Jigsaw (1)

TYFYS (1)

Boo (1)

HDD (1)

Geostorm (1)

The Foreigner (1/2)

Surburbicon (1/2)

Blade Runner (1/2)

 

1 screen open - not sure if they are also gonna try the foreign movie route like my other local or if they are saving it to see if Bad Moms or Thor needs it more...

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney-lays-down-the-law-for-theaters-on-star-wars-the-last-jedi-1509528603

 

Before exhibitors can begin screening “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” this December, they must first commit to a set of top-secret terms that numerous theater owners say are the most onerous they’ve ever seen. Disney will receive about 65% of ticket-sales revenue from the film, a new benchmark for a Hollywood studio. Disney is also requiring theaters to show the movie in their largest auditorium for at least four weeks.

 

Ignoring the terms carries an unusual penalty. If a theater violates any condition of the distribution agreement, Disney can charge it an additional 5%, bringing the studio’s total haul to 70% of sales on a movie likely to gross more than $500 million at the domestic box office.

 

That dynamic has exhibitors across the country resigning themselves to a new condition of doing business: If you want to play Disney’s blockbuster movies, get used to Disney’s rules.

 

“They’re in the most powerful position any studio has ever been in, maybe since MGM in the 1930s,” said one film buyer.

 

Few operators can afford to turn away a Disney windfall. But some independent theaters have decided not to screen “Last Jedi” when it’s released, saying the company’s disproportionate share of ticket sales and four-week hold make little economic sense—especially in small towns.

 

“There’s a finite number of moviegoers in my market, and I can service all of them in a couple of weeks,” said Lee Akin, who operates a single-screen theater in Elkader, Iowa (population: 1,213).

 

Toward the end of a monthlong run, Mr. Akin said he would be unable to swap in more popular titles and instead have to play “Last Jedi” to near-empty auditoriums—while still giving Disney 65% of those paltry sales. The studio is applying the 65% split across all weeks of the film’s release, rather than some studios’ practice of beginning a split at a high figure and then lowering it in subsequent weeks.

 

 

Disney’s rules on “Star Wars” begin before tickets go on sale online, when the studio outlines presale terms to theaters in contracts that are individually watermarked to prevent exhibitors from leaking them. Previous “Star Wars” installments gave Disney 64% of ticket sales and included four-week holds, and other releases from the studio usually require theaters to commit to a minimum of two weeks of screenings.

 

But Disney’s 5% penalty for not meeting terms on “Last Jedi” is unusual. The charge will be implemented for various violations, including if a theater pulls even one “Star Wars” screening from its schedule or begins marketing the movie before Disney gives the OK, according to theater operators.

 

The four-week hold in a theater’s largest auditorium, meanwhile, has frustrated distribution executives at rival studios that also have major releases hitting theaters around Christmastime. Soon after the “Last Jedi” opens on Dec. 15, movies such as Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc.’s “Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle” and Twentieth Century Fox’s “The Greatest Showman” will begin jockeying for screen times. Twentieth Century Fox’s owner, 21st Century Fox Inc., and Wall Street Journal parent News Corp share common ownership.

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Fuck Disney, fuck this honestly. Trust me, that's not even scraping the top of the shitstorm that Disney is throwing at theatre owners. 

 

Staff arent allowed to see the movie for free. Annual staff Xmas party? Lol nope. There are so many passes that do not even say in the fine print that can't be accepted for Star Wats, yet we are not allowed to accept them. Disabled people are not supposed to use their disabled cards to see the movie without a manager's override (something all my managers are scared to do). Last year we got a 2 page list outlining the rules for Disney's films. I'm expecting a War and Peace type novel this year honestly.

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1 minute ago, filmlover said:

The largest screen a theater has these days is the PLF/IMAX screen, and pretty much all of the multiplexes have that now, so I don't think Disney or the theaters has much to worry about.

What Disney is doing is no different from LucasFilm did back when The Phantom Menace is released. 

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6 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

I'm a huge fan of Disney's sub-studios (Marvel, LucasFilm, WDAS)...

 

But damn, I can't stand how greedy and thoughtless the head studio can be.

 

 

Yeah I agree. Not cool at all. Come on Disney....

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20th Century Fox had a rule in place for Phantom Menace back in the day, that ushers were not allowed to look at the screen when doing auditorium or projector checks without first paying full admission. I wonder how many theatres actually listened to that rule...

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2 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Fuck Disney, fuck this honestly. Trust me, that's not even scraping the top of the shitstorm that Disney is throwing at theatre owners. 

 

Staff arent allowed to see the movie for free. Annual staff Xmas party? Lol nope. There are so many passes that do not even say in the fine print that can't be accepted for Star Wats, yet we are not allowed to accept them. Disabled people are not supposed to use their disabled cards to see the movie without a manager's override (something all my managers are scared to do). Last year we got a 2 page list outlining the rules for Disney's films. I'm expecting a War and Peace type novel this year honestly.

Brutal.

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Just now, Jonwo said:

What Disney is doing is no different from LucasFilm did back when The Phantom Menace is released. 

Yeah, but that extended to over a month. I remember seeing Tarzan and Big Daddy in theaters the weekends they came out (the 5th and 6th weekend of The Phantom Menace) and TPM was still in the largest auditorium.

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Just now, Jonwo said:

What Disney is doing is no different from LucasFilm did back when The Phantom Menace is released. 

Difference is that most of these rules are not just in place for Star Wars, but pretty much every Disney movie.

 

I remember having to play Queen of Katwe to empty auditoriums for 2 weeks back when we got it as a filler. Filler's are usually one week shows, that are usually split with something else. Not with Disney.

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8 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Fuck Disney, fuck this honestly. Trust me, that's not even scraping the top of the shitstorm that Disney is throwing at theatre owners. 

 

Staff arent allowed to see the movie for free. Annual staff Xmas party? Lol nope. There are so many passes that do not even say in the fine print that can't be accepted for Star Wats, yet we are not allowed to accept them. Disabled people are not supposed to use their disabled cards to see the movie without a manager's override (something all my managers are scared to do). Last year we got a 2 page list outlining the rules for Disney's films. I'm expecting a War and Peace type novel this year honestly.

Disney is the most powerful studio atm and they are going to save the BO in December. They'll provide a lot of damage control for all the flops in Summer and early Fall. It makes sense that Disney will try to leverage their great situation with SW. Might as well capitalize on the highest grossing movie of the year (by default). But I had no clue about the stuff you mentioned. Damn, that's brutal. Not cool Disney. Not cool at all.

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3 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Difference is that most of these rules are not just in place for Star Wars, but pretty much every Disney movie.

 

I remember having to play Queen of Katwe to empty auditoriums for 2 weeks back when we got it as a filler. Filler's are usually one week shows, that are usually split with something else. Not with Disney.

All major studio releases are contracted to be shown for two weeks so I don't know how they would've gotten it as a "filler" title.

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