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[Eric S'ennui]

 

@75Live @4815162342

[4815162342]

6 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

 

@75Live @4815162342

 

Yeah pretty sure they can't actually ban him

[Eric S'ennui]

 

[DeeCee]

He doesn’t need to be suffocated with a pillow. 

[Titan Man]

Don't know how you feel about him, but to me Adam Levine seems like one the most obnoxious celebrities you can find, right next to Jared Leto. I just want to punch them in their smug faces.

[filmlover]

The Maroon 5 halftime show:

 

[Jake Gittes]

Another strong True Detective hour. Getting ever more anxious about Pizzaman sticking the landing now cause there are a lot of balls in the air. Ali is making a case for getting an Emmy in every episode and now Dorff has undoubtedly joined him there too.

Edited February 4, 2019 by Jake Gittes

[FantasticBeasts]

I am watching People vs. OJ Simpson and I am kinda shocked. Didn't know the story and expected to watch kind of an empowering trial that was a huge win for african-american rights or something. But basically... this whole thing was a setback against the narrative of criminal justice racism. Are there black people  cheering for this? It's an example about wealthy people getting away with anything. It shows that wealth inequality is stronger than racial. Also, damn but isn't it basically about a murderer getting away with it by using the victim card? Gosh that's a racists wet dream...

[Jake Gittes]

2 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

I am watching People vs. OJ Simpson and I am kinda shocked. Didn't know the story and expected to watch kind of an empowering trial that was a huge win for african-american rights or something. But basically... this whole thing was a setback against the narrative of criminal justice racism. Are there black people  cheering for this? It's an example about wealthy people getting away with anything. It shows that wealth inequality is stronger than racial. Also, damn but isn't it basically about a murderer getting away with it by using the victim card? Gosh that's a racists wet dream...

From memory, the O.J.: Made in America doc (which I highly recommend as it's about much more than just the trial) makes a case for the long history of police brutality and the Rodney King case in particular putting the prosecutors in a particularly bad spot. I don't know about cheering but the impression I got was that the jury just wasn't going to be sympathetic to them at that moment in time. It was racism creating a vicious circle, with bigger historical/societal forces at play than specific people and events.

[Avatree]

12 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

I am watching People vs. OJ Simpson and I am kinda shocked. Didn't know the story and expected to watch kind of an empowering trial that was a huge win for african-american rights or something. But basically... this whole thing was a setback against the narrative of criminal justice racism. Are there black people  cheering for this? It's an example about wealthy people getting away with anything. It shows that wealth inequality is stronger than racial. Also, damn but isn't it basically about a murderer getting away with it by using the victim card? Gosh that's a racists wet dream...

Is that how OJ is seen by some people? A black rights victory?

 

ive always known OJ Simpson to mean an example of justice state failing, even way before I had any idea of who he was.

[Dementeleus]

The LA police department has a long history of racism and brutality against minorities (particularly African-Americans) so the reaction to the trial was in large part a reaction to those decades of the police abusing their neighborhoods: a bitter “fuck you!” at the justice system that for 80-odd years had been almost systemically targeted at them.  

[Alli]

I don't know why most people hate the police in the US. They have a tough job. Most people own a gun in the US. It's scary to be a policeman over there. Dangers at every step

[The Panda]

5 minutes ago, Alli said:

I don't know why most people hate the police in the US. They have a tough job. Most people own a gun in the US. It's scary to be a policeman over there. Dangers at every step

I don’t know if it’s hate for all police.  But the fact there’s so many corrupt police that get covered up by their department it makes it hard to know which ones you can trust or not.

[FantasticBeasts]

17 minutes ago, Telemachos said:

The LA police department has a long history of racism and brutality against minorities (particularly African-Americans) so the reaction to the trial was in large part a reaction to those decades of the police abusing their neighborhoods: a bitter “fuck you!” at the justice system that for 80-odd years had been almost systemically targeted at them.  

Yeah I get this but even then... what type of 'fuck you' was that? Was he one of them? Was he sharing their struggles? That's the mentality I don't get. Being simply from the same race, the same nationality, sharing the same sexual orientation or gender doesn't mean that you face same struggles and you have same interests.

If anything, it was a huge FU to them. They were told that we will continue to get you behind bars or kill you for little to no reason while this guy butchered 2 people and got away with it because he was part of the system.

 

[FantasticBeasts]

It was a win for injustice,money and sexism to sum it up.

[TMP]

Russian Doll is pretty good

[Barnack]

1 hour ago, Alli said:

I don't know why most people hate the police in the US. They have a tough job. Most people own a gun in the US. It's scary to be a policeman over there. Dangers at every step

 

Is it really most ? and if so is there anything special about the US ?

 

 

Only two other institutions (the military and small business) of the 15 others measured this year scored higher than the police.

 

Police do seem to be one of the must trusted and liked institution in the US.

 

 

Confidence in Institutions: 2016 and 2017

	June 2016	June 2017	Change: 2016 to 2017
	%	%	pct. pts.
Newspapers	20	27	7
Public schools	30	36	6
Banks	27	32	5
Organized labor	23	28	5
U.S. Supreme Court	36	40	4
Criminal justice system	23	27	4
Congress	9	12	3
Television news	21	24	3
Big business	18	21	3
Small business	68	70	2
Police	56	57	1
Church or organized religion	41	41	0
Military	73	72	-1
Medical system	39	37	-2
Presidency	36	32	-4
News on the internet	n/a	16	n/a
GALLUP

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/196610/americans-respect-police-surges.aspx

• 76% say they have "a great deal" of respect for the police in their area

 

 

I think this can be a case were people that dislike the police are much more vocals (or at least for what reach you) giving a false impression, 

 

 

Edited February 4, 2019 by Barnack

[Alli]

2 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

 

I think this can be a case were people that dislike the police are much more vocals (or at least for what reach you) giving a false impression, 

 

 

nice data. you're probably right.  the haters are the loudest.

[JB33]

I was going to see Serenity for the hell of it but I decided on going to see Green Book in a bit instead. I'll now only have Roma and A Star is Born to watch out of all this year's Best Picture nominees.

[RichWS]

42 minutes ago, TMP said:

Russian Doll is pretty good

 

I'm gonna give it a shot tonight. Heard enough good things and only 8 episodes.