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[XXR vs XXR]

At the end of the day I view anything over $800M WW as a win and my target is now $850M. That equates to a 25-30% DOM drop and a 30-35% OS drop in equivalent available markets. This was never going to replicate what the first one did and anyone who doesn’t adjust expectations accordingly will be left with egg on their face.

[Liiviig 1998]

Below 800. Dissapointing

800-850 fine/solid

875m+ Win

 

[Factcheck]

31 minutes ago, K'uk'ulkan XXR said:

At the end of the day I view anything over $800M WW as a win and my target is now $850M. That equates to a 25-30% DOM drop and a 30-35% OS drop in equivalent available markets. This was never going to replicate what the first one did and anyone who doesn’t adjust expectations accordingly will be left with egg on their face.

So you're predicting 490-525M Dom & 340-365M OS? OS prediction seems low to me. 900M+ WW is happening I think.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Factcheck

[nguyenkhoi282]

Finally an MCU movie post Endgame that doesn't disappoint (me). I think it's great. It's too sad to be a crowdpleaser like the first one but it's just right for me. 

[Eric the Ape]

Spoiler thread is up, ready, and open for business!

 

 

[Mojoguy]

Wild that MoM and Civl War had similar OW and final DOM.

 

I can see BP2 having similar numbers. No major crossover hype like those two earlier movies but BP2 IS the sequel to a 700m hit, so there needs to be expectations to be met.

[poweranimals]

Down to 85% now on RT. I hope it doesn't keep dropping.

Edited November 9, 2022 by poweranimals

[jedijake]

7 minutes ago, poweranimals said:

Down to 85% now on RT. I hope it doesn't keep dropping.

Why is it always that movies like these keep dropping over time? Do negative reviewers take more time, coming up with highly intellectual, haughty ways to say they don't like something?

[TheDude391]

3 minutes ago, jedijake said:

Why is it always that movies like these keep dropping over time? Do negative reviewers take more time, coming up with highly intellectual, haughty ways to say they don't like something?

It's because those initial reactions and reviews come from people selected by the studio to attend the premieres and early screenings, people more likely to be positive. This isn't anywhere close to that but the most extreme example was WW84, which went from like 80s to 50s in a few weeks.

[Hatebox]

4 minutes ago, jedijake said:

Why is it always that movies like these keep dropping over time? Do negative reviewers take more time, coming up with highly intellectual, haughty ways to say they don't like something?

 

Yeah, that must be it.

[Lighthouse]

6 minutes ago, TheDude391 said:

It's because those initial reactions and reviews come from people selected by the studio to attend the premieres and early screenings, people more likely to be positive. This isn't anywhere close to that but the most extreme example was WW84, which went from like 80s to 50s in a few weeks.

WW84 is an example of the opposite, at least on RT, it was the bloggers who caused the score to drop a lot. Check the top critics.

[Lucas]

Oh dear, Robert Daniels review. I don't know when I'll have time to see it but will make sure it doesn't take too long.

 

[exomassey]

Rotten Tomato scores always fall after initial reaction especially with superhero films.

I was reading the negatives and the general opinion is that the film is a big disappointment compared to the first one and the film being way too long. 
 

Also seems Rachel Morrison was a big miss here from a visual standpoint at least.

 

Reading the Variety article today, I’m surprised this film come together as it did. Maybe Marvel shouldn’t have really rushed into a sequel here.

 

 

 

[John Marston]

so it's clearly not as good as the first. Hope it doesn't get a bunch of Oscar nominations out of sympathy

[CaptNathanBrittles]

OW: 185m

DOM: 515m

INT: 468m (without China: 392m)

 

WW: 983m/907m

[cmbbox2390]

19 minutes ago, John Marston said:

so it's clearly not as good as the first. Hope it doesn't get a bunch of Oscar nominations out of sympathy

What nominations would you expect them to give the film out of sympathy?

 

I believe all the nominations and wins the first received were well deserved.

Edited November 9, 2022 by cmbbox2390

[Mojoguy]

15 minutes ago, John Marston said:

so it's clearly not as good as the first. Hope it doesn't get a bunch of Oscar nominations out of sympathy

Boseman isn't going to be in this I doubt there will be any of that. Besides, he didn't win Best Actor 2 years ago.

[Mojoguy]

12 minutes ago, CaptNathanBrittles said:

OW: 185m

DOM: 515m

INT: 468m (without China: 392m)

 

WW: 983m/907m

Wonder how many movies will just barely fail to get to billion cause of China bans. MoM got screwed.

[TheDude391]

51 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

WW84 is an example of the opposite, at least on RT, it was the bloggers who caused the score to drop a lot. Check the top critics.

WOAH 71% Top Critics vs 58% damn.

[tonytr87]

16 hours ago, CaptNathanBrittles said:

 

The crap digital cinematography is a much bigger problem than the CGI.

 

True. And the two go hand in hand.