Weekend Thread: Actuals - Mal2 $19.4M | Joker $19.2M | Adam's Family 12M | Zombieland $11.8M | Countdown $8.9M | Black & Blue $8.4M

[teard1972]

13 minutes ago, cax16 said:

It’s already the 10th highest grossing R rated movie Domestically, I don’t know how anyone could equate that to decent tbh. 

 

13 minutes ago, Firepower said:

Multiplier is impressive, especially considering many people thought it would have terrible legs, BO Pro even forecasted BvS mutiplier (personally I always thought those forecasts don't make any sense). Some weekdays were impressive too. It's doing much better than many people thought even in NA, so it's more than decent.

Merely the 10th, and expectations... compared to the OS run, it’s just decent. It’s a different era, the glorious R-America era is long gone. It’s not impressive enough to make 1 billion a certainty

Edited October 28, 2019 by teard1972

[hasanahmad]

1 minute ago, teard1972 said:

 

Merely the 10th, and expectations... compared to the OS run, it’s just decent. It’s a different era, the glorious R-America era is long gone. It’s not impressive enough to make 1 billion a certainty

Ok I just saw you joined 3 weeks ago here. Welcome . But you got a lot to learn about box office and context kid . You will learn 

[teard1972]

Just now, hasanahmad said:

Ok I just saw you joined 3 weeks ago here. Welcome . But you got a lot to learn about box office and context kid . You will learn 

I was here from the mojo days. Lost my previous account info, so register a new one. I know enough about boxoffice and I have my reason to react this way about Joker’s domestic run. 

[cax16]

5 minutes ago, teard1972 said:

 

Merely the 10th, and expectations... compared to the OS run, it’s just decent. It’s a different era, the glorious R-America era is long gone. It’s not impressive enough to make 1 billion a certainty

What expectations? Was this supposed to make 400m domestic or something? Most people didn’t even think this would touch 300m domestic. 
 

Anyways, you’re entitled to your opinion, I just don’t agree. 

[Jake Gittes]

Don't feed the troll.

[stripe]

Decent is the last word I would have used to describe Joker's DOM run

[Firepower]

12 minutes ago, teard1972 said:

Merely the 10th, and expectations... compared to the OS run, it’s just decent. It’s a different era, the glorious R-America era is long gone. It’s not impressive enough to make 1 billion a certainty

It'll be in top 5 domestic after everything is said and done with around 3.5 or more multiplier after almost 100 mln opening. Overseas run is just out of this world phenomenal, but it doesn't make NA run just decent. It's having much better legs than most of the cbms and those cbms were big budget family friendly movies with light tone, tons of actions and spectacle.

Edited October 28, 2019 by Firepower

[teard1972]

2 minutes ago, cax16 said:

What expectations? Was this supposed to make 400m domestic or something? Most people didn’t even think this would touch 300m domestic. 
 

Anyways, you’re entitled to your opinion, I just don’t agree. 

Thanks for being civil. Ofc impression, opinion... Let’s agree to disagree. I mostly camp at Japan BO thread.

[narniadis]

Always gotta love how films that hit a particular side of the social fandoms always inflate stupidity on this board..... hasnt changed from the Mojo days, but seems more onpoint anymore. 

 

Also, for the idiots yipping about the knowledgeable old dogs and our reaction to Deadline - may we remind you that experience tells us many times over to never expect the high end. If it hadnt come close yall would be yipping about deadline being "deadline" and the rest of us would have shrugged and said its normal behavior. 

 

Not sure why this board has made me so salty this year other than growing really tired of the franchise crap. 

[titanic2187]

1 hour ago, a2k said:

This is how Aladdin went 4th weekend on-ward

Jun 14-16	3	$17,309,154	-29.9%	3,556	-249	$4,867	$264,043,468	4
Jun 21-23	3	$13,244,015	-23.5%	3,435	-121	$3,855	$288,554,143	5
Jun 28-30	4	$10,114,122	-23.6%	3,235	-200	$3,126	$306,632,068	6
Jul 5-7	5	$7,515,649	-25.7%	2,758	-477	$2,725	$320,705,265	7
Jul 12-14	6	$6,173,124	-17.9%	2,557	-201	$2,414	$331,789,844	8
Jul 19-21	7	$4,085,424	-33.8%	2,105	-452	$1,940	$340,326,138	9
Jul 26-28	7	$3,039,648	-25.6%	1,798	-307	$1,690	$346,180,234	10
Aug 2-4	9	$2,125,485	-30.1%	1,370	-428	$1,551	$350,477,077	11

 

Joker has a higher weekend (19.1 vs 17.3) and about a 14m lead. However the strong summer weekdays of late June and July were yet to come for Aladdin. Joker's cume will be ahead till the 6th weekend IMO, and then it will start to trail (July 4th weekdays follow the 6th weekend). Awards season could help it close the gap in the end.

	Joker	Deadpool	Deadpool 2	Thor: Ragnarok
Opening Weekend	$96,202,337 / $96,202,337	$132,434,639 / $132,434,639	$125,507,153 / $125,507,153	$122,744,989 / $122,744,989
2nd Weekend	$55,861,403 / $193,590,190	$56,470,167 / $236,865,054	$43,463,043 / $208,170,395	$57,078,306 / $212,068,013
3rd Weekend	$29,251,840 / $247,275,844	$31,115,195 / $285,254,204	$23,178,597 / $254,506,035	$21,669,600 / $247,265,770
4th Weekend	$19,130,000 / $277,813,522	$16,725,929 / $311,484,061	$14,148,517 / $279,164,058	$16,863,294 / $277,650,571
5th Weekend	- / -	$10,942,304 / $328,219,729	$8,681,501 / $294,562,309	$9,885,936 / $291,633,535
6th Weekend	- / -	$8,011,984 / $340,953,367	$5,271,882 / $304,172,203	$6,271,374 / $301,136,438
7th Weekend	- / -	$4,897,941 / $349,371,907	$3,574,451 / $310,474,309	$3,133,416 / $306,527,536
8th Weekend	- / -	$3,456,595 / $355,065,529	$1,675,074 / $314,546,474	$833,878 / $309,124,636
9th Weekend	- / -	$2,085,290 / $358,410,029	$786,787 / $316,242,407	$854,911 / $311,225,150
10th Weekend	- / -	$974,651 / $360,087,900	$476,139 / $317,123,579	$514,940 / $312,459,726
11th Weekend	- / -	$680,518 / $361,132,461	$278,968 / $317,677,822	$370,959 / $313,012,279
12th Weekend	- / -	$432,888 / $361,827,263	$184,930 / $318,024,459	$234,516 / $313,433,047

 

Based on this, if follow.

Deadpool : 330m

Deadpool 2/ Thor 3 : 320m

 

This year November has lesser number big tentpole that generate big number, last year BR, Grinch, WiR2 and FB2 all opened to above 50m but we have so many many more mid-scale film. the number of wide releases in next few weeks is crazy and many of them target the same demo as Joker.

 

joker needs to sustain enough of gross like ASIB or like Gravity last year to capitalize its award season attention ( assuming it is a contender) 

 

So far no news on the home media release date for Joker, but i think January will be the spot , WB will replicate how it treat ASIB to Joker this year, not to mention this year Oscar season is 2 weeks earlier.   

[Firepower]

10 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

This year November has lesser number big tentpole that generate big number, last year BR, Grinch, WiR2 and FB2 all opened to above 50m but we have so many many more mid-scale film. the number of wide releases in next few weeks is crazy and many of them target the same demo as Joker.

Most of those wide releases are guaranteed flops, the only danger they possess is stealing some screens, but that's pretty much it, they shouldn't be considered a threat for Joker.

Edited October 28, 2019 by Firepower

[CJohn]

@MCKillswitch123 Insane 4th weekend for the Joker. What a run this has been. It should be number 1 again this weekend against Terminator. Meanwhile Maleficent is also having a fantastic run.

 

https://www.ica-ip.pt/fotos/downloads/ranking_fds_24_a_27_de_outubro_2019_57355db6d3ab2bf05.pdf

 

Strong opening for A Rainy Day in New York while Zombieland flopped.

[Xavier]

4 hours ago, a2k said:

IW and SW7 were far behind Avatar by 600-700m+.

Aslo, EG WW-China is higher than IW and SW7 WW including China with ease.

True- but there were already  movies doing over 2B, which was once unthinkable. And of course, Endgame would never beat Avatar without the ultimate fudging its rerelease, and the media’s effort to convince us that it is the best film ever, so Joker had that going for it too.

The fact that Endgame has 94% on RT and Joker has 69% must be some kind of a joke. 

Edited October 28, 2019 by Xavier

[WeneedtotalkaboutKevin]

3 hours ago, AndyK said:

Shareholders are not going to be happy when they find out Warner Bros board threw 1/4bn of profit away.

 

#Joker.

The joke is always on those WB studio heads... LOL HAHAHA

[sfran43]

 

[Brainbug]

17 minutes ago, Xavier said:

True- but there were already  movies doing over 2B, which was once unthinkable. And of course, Endgame would never beat Avatar without the ultimate fudging its rerelease, and the media’s effort to convince us that it is the best film ever, so Joker had that going for it too.

The fact that Endgame has 94% on RT and Joker has 69% must be some kind of a joke. 

 

Why? Its a very nice number for Joker. Way nicer than Endgames.

 

[sfran43]

 

[TMP]

Just found out it's Joaquin Phoenix's birthday today and his film's gonna be back at #1 at the box office. That's a pretty cool coincidence 

[Barnack]

9 hours ago, Xavier said:

Joker is a far more impressive story than Endgame. Avatar’s record was going to fall one way or the other, as there were movies coming close already (IW, SW7). 
And doing 1B without China is equally impressive, as Endgame wouldn’t even come close to Avatar without its huge overperformance in China.

Well when you compare to a movie that made over 2B outside China.

 

And yes if EndGame would have made a more normal 400M in China, it would have been close to Avatar, in absolute non market Adjusted numbers.

 

Far more impressive is pushing it. the fact you consider SW7 and IW has being close to Avatar but not EndGame without an overperfoming in China make it sound like you have some bias.

[sfran43]

 

Edited October 28, 2019 by sfran43