The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other

[eXtacy]

Unexpectedly luke warm reviews.

 

Thinking this destroys any chance of a breakout.

 

Dropping prediction to 85m/225m/575m.

[filmlover]

So not the Greatest Comic Book Movie Ever (as the overhype would lead to believe) but still a rather decent movie? Sounds good to me!

[Borobudur]

Just now, filmlover said:

So not the Greatest Comic Book Movie Ever (as the overhype would lead to believe) but still a rather decent movie? Sounds good to me!

I saw the movie in one of the fan screening. It definitely isn't one of the best of all time but the movie still pretty good, I would say on par with GOTG3.

[BigBoxOfficeBucks]

A few weeks ago, I predicted that the RT score would be around 70%-75%. After seeing all these lukewarm reviews, I guess the score will ultimately be between 60%-65%, on the verge of being rotten. To be honest, I am a little bit surprised and I think WB miscalculated a big time on this one.  

[AMC Theaters Enjoyer]

Fair warning: there are spoilers on TikTok already so tread carefully.

[eddyxx]

6 hours ago, Eric 2099 said:

Moderation

 

Had to give...four users warning points? So I'm gonna make things brief.

 

 

This whole "critics don't get it" crap is not going to happen here anymore. The anti-critic circlejerks that happen every time they say mean things about a dumb kids movie, a kids movie that will make more money than you will ever make in your lifetime, a kids movie that only exists to sell toys and t-shirts and bedsheets to children, is beyond tired and beyond childish.

 

No, there's no grand conspiracy out there targeting DC movies. No, people aren't being "unfair" or "biased" towards a movie that's from a brand you're loyal to. If anything, it's ridiculous so many of you are leaping to defend a movie made by a megacorporation like this. So to everybody doing this, including @Warmaster506 @Johnny Tran @stephanos13, stop this now, or you will see a threadban. Trust me. I am not joking. You've been warned.

 

I apologize for sounding harsh and mean, but this is the only way some of you will listen. So I hope the message is loud and clear. Okay? Okay.

Your avatar and name are perfect for posts like this.

[Saul Goodman]

Lol all this hype for months and these reviews. WB gonna WB!

[NamakFiskKa]

Feels like Aquaman 2.0 to me , critics dont love it (ironic since No Way Home has similar cons they are pointing for this, its boring till other heroes pop up) but its fun for audience.

 

They clearly either dont like Ezra's take or love it.

[Saul Goodman]

50% rotten among top critics with 5.7 average. Damn!

[Hatebox]

5 hours ago, eXtacy said:

Unexpectedly luke warm reviews.

Totally expected.
 

But actually, given everything, I think WB will be happy enough for now.

[AJG]

I saw this Bus Stop Ad earlier.
 

The Quoted Review is just some guys Twitter

 

[Napoleon]

8 hours ago, Dominic Draper said:

Can you name any comic book films that are widely considered among the greatest of all time that are scored in the low 70s?

Joker is even below that. (But I'm not saying I expect The Flash to perform the same way)

[SchumacherFTW]

1 hour ago, AJG said:

I saw this Bus Stop Ad earlier.
 

The Quoted Review is just some guys Twitter

 

I've been seeing these for weeks all over London

[JustLurking]

flash reviews landing in that "it's fine" area is the most boring outcome possible ngl

[JohnnyGossamer]

Reviews seem solidly mixed to positive... We've seen plenty of blockbuster with this type of critical reception really take off with audiences... I'm thinking if it opens decently to something hopefully closer to 90M OW DOM, Flash might still pull close to or slightly over a 3 multiplier if audience reception is as good as hoped.

Edited June 7, 2023 by JohnnyGossamer

[JohnnyGossamer]

At current...

 

73% on RT (6.5 Average Rating) with 78 reviews

60 on MC with 28 reviews

 

...not bad at all.

[von Kenni]

1 hour ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

Reviews seem solidly mixed to positive... We've seen plenty of blockbuster with this type of critical reception really take off with audiences... I'm thinking if it opens decently to something hopefully closer to 90M OW DOM, Flash might still pull close to or slightly over a 3 multiplier if audience reception is as good as hoped.

 

So, are we talking about anything between $550m and $800m WW possible at this stage?

 

$800 would need a $100m opening, strong legs to get close to $350m DOM, stellar marketing to get old Keaton fans like me to turn out in droves without alienating them with the ping pong CGI fight scenes, and good numbers in China to bring extra $50m.

 

For $550m e.g. $80m OW, 2.8x ~$230 DOM and $320m OS.

 

Breakeven point is probably around $575-600m. If I recall, Batman movies have usually had great home entertainment sales. Maybe that rubs into this too and balances out the delayed release capital costs. Any thoughts?

[XXR & Friends]

8 minutes ago, von Kenni said:

So, are we talking about anything between $550m and $800m WW possible at this stage?

I would say the lower bound is a bit less than that. I think it eventually lands somewhere in the 550-600 range.

[Hatebox]

Is there any word on how much screentime Keaton has in this? I'm not going to watch it, but always curious how naughty marketing can be with this kind of thing.

[Joyous Legion]

I am Under on 500, but say like 400-600?