EmpireCity Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 I started to talk about it, but if it were me and trying to "fix" 2023's schedule, I do the following basic changes.... - Lionsgate moves John Wick 4 to May 19th - WB moves Last Train to New York to July 14th - Universal moves Fast X to June 16th - Sony moves Spiderverse back to November 3rd - WB moves The Flash back to October 20th - WB moves Barbie up to June 23rd - Universal moves Oppenheimer back to December 22nd - Paramount moves Mission: Impossible 7 to July 21st That gives you the following.... May Guardians 3 John Wick 4 The Little Mermaid June Transformers Fast X Elemental Barbie Indy 5 July Madame Web Last Train to New York Mission: Impossible 7 The Marvels August TMNT Meg 2: The Trench Last Voyage of the Dementer Gran Turismo Blue Beetle September The Equalizer 3 A Quiet Place: Day One October True Love Paw Patrol 2 The Exorcist The Flash November Spiderverse Trolls 3 Dune II Hunger Games Prequel Disney Animation December Wonka Ghostbusters: Afterlife Sequel Tiger's Apprentace The Color Purple Oppenheimer Migration 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Caballo Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 So, Aquaman 2 is on March 17th. And Haunted Mansion on March 10th, right behind Aquaman 2. I guess Disney wants to release this in March. Would the March 24th date be better for it? 1 week after Aquaman, and not 1 week before. Or it wouldn't make any difference? Or maybe it would be a bad idea after instead of before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starphanluke Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Honestly, I feel like Paramount should move Transformers to April. If it is even halfway decent, it could do fine there. Otherwise, it's going to get buried in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Caballo Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) I think Strange World will be buried in November. The movie, based on 1st trailer, won't be a strong player at all imo. I could be getting ahead of myself. But that's just what I'm feeling right now. It just looks like... another generic Disney movie. I would still move it to March 3rd. Just a feeling. And push Haunted Mansion to March 24th. Edited July 5, 2022 by Juan Caballo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I expect these to be the big 2023 hits! JANUARY Kraven the Hunter - 55m OW / 130m DOM / 350m WW FEBRUARY Cocaine Bear - 30m OW / 110m DOM / 200m WW Quantumania - 110m OW / 250m DOM / 600m WW MARCH Dungeons and Dragons - 50m OW / 145m DOM / 400m WW Haunted Mansion - BOMB Aquaman 2 - 120m OW / 280m DOM / 800m WW John Wick 4 - 80m OW / 185m DOM / 600m WW APRIL Mario - 110m OW / 350m DOM / 1.1b WW MAY GOTG3 - 165m OW / 385m DOM / 950m WW Fast X - 140m OW / 300m DOM / 1.2b WW The Little Mermaid - BOMB JUNE Across the Spider-Verse - 125m OW / 420m DOM / 1.05b WW Transformers Whatever The Flash GROSS Indy 5 Ie BIGGEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR - 225m OW / 710m DOM / 1.5b WW JULY Madame Web lmao Mission: Impossible 7 - 95m OW / 335m DOM / 850m WW Barbie - 135m OW / 460m DOM / 1.1B WW Oppenheimer - BOMB The Marvels - 180m OW / 415m DOM / 1.2b WW AUGUST A bunch of mediocre bombs SEPTEMBER A Quiet Place Part III - 85m OW / 210m DOM / 550m WW OCTOBER True Love - 55m OW / 170m DOM / 400m WW The Exorcist - 60m OW / 150m DOM / 300m WW NOVEMBER Blade ITS COMING HERE - 95m OW / 330m DOM / 900m WW The Hunger Games: A Song of BOMB AND FLOPPING Dune 2 - 165m OW / 510m DOM / 1.3b WW 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juby Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, The Panda said: Fast X - 140m OW / 300m DOM / 1.2b WW Here's why: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poweranimals Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) On 7/2/2022 at 4:45 PM, EmpireCity said: I started to talk about it, but if it were me and trying to "fix" 2023's schedule, I do the following basic changes.... - Lionsgate moves John Wick 4 to May 19th - WB moves Last Train to New York to July 14th - Universal moves Fast X to June 16th - Sony moves Spiderverse back to November 3rd - WB moves The Flash back to October 20th - WB moves Barbie up to June 23rd - Universal moves Oppenheimer back to December 22nd - Paramount moves Mission: Impossible 7 to July 21st That gives you the following.... May Guardians 3 John Wick 4 The Little Mermaid June Transformers Fast X Elemental Barbie Indy 5 July Madame Web Last Train to New York Mission: Impossible 7 The Marvels August TMNT Meg 2: The Trench Last Voyage of the Dementer Gran Turismo Blue Beetle September The Equalizer 3 A Quiet Place: Day One October True Love Paw Patrol 2 The Exorcist The Flash November Spiderverse Trolls 3 Dune II Hunger Games Prequel Disney Animation December Wonka Ghostbusters: Afterlife Sequel Tiger's Apprentace The Color Purple Oppenheimer Migration Why on Earth would they delay Flash even further? Edited July 5, 2022 by poweranimals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factcheck Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, The Panda said: I expect these to be the big 2023 hits! JANUARY Kraven the Hunter - 55m OW / 130m DOM / 350m WW FEBRUARY Cocaine Bear - 30m OW / 110m DOM / 200m WW Quantumania - 110m OW / 250m DOM / 600m WW MARCH Dungeons and Dragons - 50m OW / 145m DOM / 400m WW Haunted Mansion - BOMB Aquaman 2 - 120m OW / 280m DOM / 800m WW John Wick 4 - 80m OW / 185m DOM / 600m WW APRIL Mario - 110m OW / 350m DOM / 1.1b WW MAY GOTG3 - 165m OW / 385m DOM / 950m WW Fast X - 140m OW / 300m DOM / 1.2b WW The Little Mermaid - BOMB JUNE Across the Spider-Verse - 125m OW / 420m DOM / 1.05b WW Transformers Whatever The Flash GROSS Indy 5 Ie BIGGEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR - 225m OW / 710m DOM / 1.5b WW JULY Madame Web lmao Mission: Impossible 7 - 95m OW / 335m DOM / 850m WW Barbie - 135m OW / 460m DOM / 1.1B WW Oppenheimer - BOMB The Marvels - 180m OW / 415m DOM / 1.2b WW AUGUST A bunch of mediocre bombs SEPTEMBER A Quiet Place Part III - 85m OW / 210m DOM / 550m WW OCTOBER True Love - 55m OW / 170m DOM / 400m WW The Exorcist - 60m OW / 150m DOM / 300m WW NOVEMBER Blade ITS COMING HERE - 95m OW / 330m DOM / 900m WW The Hunger Games: A Song of BOMB AND FLOPPING Dune 2 - 165m OW / 510m DOM / 1.3b WW How The Marvels will do 180M OW & 1.2B WW? Thor L&T with billion times more hype than The Marvels will be unable to do so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liiviig 1998 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, The Panda said: I expect these to be the big 2023 hits! JANUARY Kraven the Hunter - 55m OW / 130m DOM / 350m WW FEBRUARY Cocaine Bear - 30m OW / 110m DOM / 200m WW Quantumania - 110m OW / 250m DOM / 600m WW MARCH Dungeons and Dragons - 50m OW / 145m DOM / 400m WW Haunted Mansion - BOMB Aquaman 2 - 120m OW / 280m DOM / 800m WW John Wick 4 - 80m OW / 185m DOM / 600m WW APRIL Mario - 110m OW / 350m DOM / 1.1b WW MAY GOTG3 - 165m OW / 385m DOM / 950m WW Fast X - 140m OW / 300m DOM / 1.2b WW The Little Mermaid - BOMB JUNE Across the Spider-Verse - 125m OW / 420m DOM / 1.05b WW Transformers Whatever The Flash GROSS Indy 5 Ie BIGGEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR - 225m OW / 710m DOM / 1.5b WW JULY Madame Web lmao Mission: Impossible 7 - 95m OW / 335m DOM / 850m WW Barbie - 135m OW / 460m DOM / 1.1B WW Oppenheimer - BOMB The Marvels - 180m OW / 415m DOM / 1.2b WW AUGUST A bunch of mediocre bombs SEPTEMBER A Quiet Place Part III - 85m OW / 210m DOM / 550m WW OCTOBER True Love - 55m OW / 170m DOM / 400m WW The Exorcist - 60m OW / 150m DOM / 300m WW NOVEMBER Blade ITS COMING HERE - 95m OW / 330m DOM / 900m WW The Hunger Games: A Song of BOMB AND FLOPPING Dune 2 - 165m OW / 510m DOM / 1.3b WW This are some sizzling takes TLM is not fricking bombing. Thinking 400m/900m+ Indy 5 350-425/875-1.05b It's not getting that high after crystal skull reception. 1.2b for marvel's from fucking where without china. Dune 165/510 no fucking way. More like 75-90/225-300m/750-900m Quiet place day 1 is a spinoff not sequel. Though I'm not that high on spiderverse domestic , 400m dom wouldn't surprise me all that much but thinking high 200s to mid 300s can happen. I don't see it making a billion even with such a high(400m+ domestic total. Thinking 275-400m OS .550-750m ww. Oppenheimer will be a moderate success. Nolan gets butts in seats. 150/450m+ . Budget on this is allegedly 100m. Barbie is a wildcard . Can see it exploding dom but doing moderate OS. 250-350m+/500-700m. Aquaman , guardians and quantumania legs are a little harsh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Caballo Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Panda said: I expect these to be the big 2023 hits! JANUARY Kraven the Hunter - 55m OW / 130m DOM / 350m WW FEBRUARY Cocaine Bear - 30m OW / 110m DOM / 200m WW Quantumania - 110m OW / 250m DOM / 600m WW MARCH Dungeons and Dragons - 50m OW / 145m DOM / 400m WW Haunted Mansion - BOMB Aquaman 2 - 120m OW / 280m DOM / 800m WW John Wick 4 - 80m OW / 185m DOM / 600m WW APRIL Mario - 110m OW / 350m DOM / 1.1b WW MAY GOTG3 - 165m OW / 385m DOM / 950m WW Fast X - 140m OW / 300m DOM / 1.2b WW The Little Mermaid - BOMB JUNE Across the Spider-Verse - 125m OW / 420m DOM / 1.05b WW Transformers Whatever The Flash GROSS Indy 5 Ie BIGGEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR - 225m OW / 710m DOM / 1.5b WW JULY Madame Web lmao Mission: Impossible 7 - 95m OW / 335m DOM / 850m WW Barbie - 135m OW / 460m DOM / 1.1B WW Oppenheimer - BOMB The Marvels - 180m OW / 415m DOM / 1.2b WW AUGUST A bunch of mediocre bombs SEPTEMBER A Quiet Place Part III - 85m OW / 210m DOM / 550m WW OCTOBER True Love - 55m OW / 170m DOM / 400m WW The Exorcist - 60m OW / 150m DOM / 300m WW NOVEMBER Blade ITS COMING HERE - 95m OW / 330m DOM / 900m WW The Hunger Games: A Song of BOMB AND FLOPPING Dune 2 - 165m OW / 510m DOM / 1.3b WW Yeah. The Marvels won't come close to Captain Marvel. It was totally carried by Endgame hype and the movie wasn't good. The Quantumania prediction is ridiculously low. I would have The Marvels at 600M WW (which I think it's realistic) and Quantumania at 850M WW. Guardians is the only MCU movie in 2023 with a billion chance but I doubt it. Bruh. Barbie won't make 1.1B. The Little Mermaid won't bomb. I do think it will underperform based on people current expectations. But not bomb. I'm guessing 550-700M WW. Edited July 5, 2022 by Juan Caballo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Factcheck said: How The Marvels will do 180M OW & 1.2B WW? Thor L&T with billion times more hype than The Marvels will be unable to do so Did Brie Larson hurt your family? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) It’s Revise Time January Kraven - $35m/$80m Megan - $17m/$45m Harold - $25m/$90m February Cabin - $22m/$70m Me - $13m/$40m Quantumania - $105m/$125m/$300m Cocaine - $17m/$60m March Dungeons - $70m/$225m Mansion - $45m/$150m Aquaman - $125m/$325m Wick - $40m/$125m Scream - $50m/$120m April Mario - $115m/$340m Lion - $20m/$70m Reinfeld - $30m/$85m 65 - $12m/$30m Last Train - $25m/$65m May GOTGV3 - $205m/$620m Fast X - $80m/$185m TLM - $125m/$165m/$400m June SpiderVerse - $65m/$185m Beasts - $35m/$90m Strays - $30m/$100m Elemental - $60m/$200m Flash - $90m/$240m Indy 5 - $170m five day/$435m July Web - $30m/$60m MI7 - $95m/$280m Oppenheimer - $30m/$130m Barbie - $55m/$215m Marvels - $160m/$385m August TMNT - $25m/$90m Meg 2 - $30m/$90m Blue Beetle - $95m/$345m Dementer - $14m/40m September 3qualizer - $40m/$100m Quiet Place - $50m/$140m October Exorcist - $65m/$160m Paw 2 - $17m/$60m November Blade - $90m/$250m If - $45m/$160m 2une - $75m/$225m Songbirds - $55m/$170m (if this stays in the same spot which I doubt, more like $85m/$245m) Trolls - $35m/$150m (either this or IF should open against Blade as counterprogramming) Foster - $65m five day/$180m December Wonka - $55m/$235m Ghostbusters - $35m/$160m Migration - $75m five day/$220m Purple - $25m/$115m Star Trek - $25m/$115m Tiger - $13m/$65m Top 10 Guardians - $620m/$1.35b Indy - $435m/$1.25b TLM - $400m/$1b Aquaman - $325m/$1.25b Marvels - $385m/$1b MI7 - $280m/$835m Quantumania - $300m/$800m 2une - $225m/$775m Fast X - $180m/$750m Flash - $230m/$700m Edited July 5, 2022 by YourMother 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Honestly, The Marvels sub 700m just seems like unrealistic hope for those who really hated the movie or were oddly mad at Larson for her opinion and just can’t let it go. I mean Thor: The Dark World is easily the worst MCU but it jumped with Ragnarok, compared to Captain Marvel which if we look outside of a loud Internet vocal minority, WOM was in line with other MCU flicks. No Marvel movie has dropped that much and with the rumor and true additions, I doubt it goes below $800m at the bare minimum as it seems to be the movie that they’re shaping up to be the event MCU movie. I think a fall will happen due to China and it hitting a zeitgeist but I think 300m+ and 850m+ is pretty much locked provided Feige and DeCosta deliver the goods. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factcheck Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, YourMother said: Did Brie Larson hurt your family? I'm not offended by your comment, I'm actually laughing & wondering what this has to do with Brie Larson lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Caballo Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 The Marvels? Event movie? I do think sub 600M is impossible. But my guess would be 750M. If Blade releases in 2023, I do think Blade will be the lowest grossing MCU movie of 2023. The way you just make everything about gender and politics as a shield. When I say I don't have much confidence, it's because...I don't think people are that excited for the characters in this movie. Like it or not. Ms Marvel feels like a ignored D+ show. I usually watch a lot of D+ shows reactions on YT and some are not even watching it. Monica Rambeau...I think she's a fine character that was served poor writing. Specially in the finale. Captain Marvel, outside of being highly controversial, was highly mediocre. From every aspect. I think the only strong point of it was Fury and Carol friendship. Maybe once trailers hit there's something that will change my mind. But right now, I don't see the Marvels as a 800M at the very least. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Juan Caballo said: outside of being highly controversial, was highly mediocre That’s the thing how was it controversial, it was basically a standard MCU flick lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Caballo Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, YourMother said: That’s the thing how was it controversial, it was basically a standard MCU flick lol. It wasn't then. But I think it was just very poorly written. Emotionless. A Wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Juan Caballo said: It wasn't then. But I think it was just very poorly written. Emotionless. A Wall. Okay. I thought it was lower tier MCU but about the same as a number of origin movies like Homecoming and Black Widow. A 3/5, see it once and I’m good. I just don’t think the proof is there for such a large drop, even though I think a drop is happening due to how much it made. It’s really rare for a tentpole to drop that much, even if it is really disliked and I’m not really seeing much of an indication that Captain Marvel is going to fall by about 50% from the past entries unless it was consecutively bad repeated installments over time. It would be on the scale of TLK from AoE and that had a plethora of problems from bad reviews to the last one being far more disliked than almost any MCU movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factcheck Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 If I were Disney I would have removed July 28th MCU date & would have given either GOTG3 or The Marvels December release date of Star Wars. But this is Chapek's Disney so he is likely to fuck up both Indiana Jones & The Marvels. He has already given up July 7th to Sony Marvel & now he would give up Star Wars date to rumoured Venom 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starphanluke Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 There are some absolutely WILD predictions in here. I adore Dune (my favorite book and book series of all time) and am so thrilled it found success in a time when not a lot of movies were, but not a chance in HELL it gets anywhere close to a billion. I think it can definitely improve over Part 1 and get to $600m-ish, which is a great number for an auteur, heady Sci-Fi movie. The Marvels is defininitely hard to predict without the Endgame factor plus the fact that Ms. Marvel is low-key bombing on D+. Still, under $600m seems insane to me. We'll see. And Transformers opening to only $35m and grossing under $100m domestic just isn't happening. I think it will at least top The Last Knight domestically and worldwide (assuming Paramount can secure a Chinese release). I've heard good things about it--Paramount really just needs to find it a date where it can compete. I will agree with some of you that the Hunger Games prequel will bomba. The book is DREADFUL and has none of the qualities fans of that series would want in a movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
