The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[dallas]

Madame Web

 

Wednesday Opening

 

T-2

Tickets Sold: 216 (+43)

Growth: 25%

% PLF: 31%

5 theaters/21 showtimes

 

Comps:

(1.649x) of Mean Girls - $5.36 Million

(1.113x) of Aquaman 2 - $5 Million

(4.154x) of Argylle - $7.06 Million

COMPS AVG - $5.81 Million

 

This is actually doing solid, or at least solid in comparison to my low expectations. Should land around $5M when all is said and done. 

[dallas]

I see Bob Marley opening to ~$8M on Valentine's Day, which is actually quite sublime for a film of its kind. Obviously it will be very frontloaded, but I can't say this hasn't been an interesting one to track. 

[leoh]

49 minutes ago, dallas said:

I see Bob Marley opening to ~$8M on Valentine's Day, which is actually quite sublime for a film of its kind. Obviously it will be very frontloaded, but I can't say this hasn't been an interesting one to track. 

 
 

It seems that OL will be an one day movie event like it was TCP. 
 

One day movie events like TCP and OL may be becoming more common from now on

Edited February 13 by leoh

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

5 hours ago, filmlover said:

 

Recreating an entire era from decades ago doesn't exactly come cheap either.

It takes place in the late 70s, early 80s and costs more than actual period films

[keysersoze123]

On 2/11/2024 at 9:24 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Bob Marley MTC1

VD - 72643/459026 1097764.45 2963 shows +9518

Friday - 11207/387877 173974.29 2310 shows +1309

 

Good bump considering SB. 

Quick update. 

Bob Marley MTC1 VD - 90251/529810 1361253.93 3549 shows +17608

 

 

Let us see if momentum continues till wednesday. I have to say double digit OD is in play. 

[HummingLemon496]

Madame Web reactions are out

 

Vday looks fine, but the internal multiplier throughout the weekend is gonna be:

Edited February 13 by HummingLemon496

[Porthos]

On 2/12/2024 at 12:14 AM, Porthos said:

 

Dune: Part Two - Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-18 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	171	22765	24716	1951	7.89%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

63

 

T-18 Comps         UNIFORMLY TERRIBLE EDITION - DON'T TAKE SERIOUSLY AT ALL!!!

	%		Sold T-18	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
Batman	55.46		126	3518		0/248	28780/32298	10.89%		11757	16.59%		13.54m
TGM	61.66		307	3164		0/257	33053/36217	8.74%		11474	17.00%		11.88m
JWD	90.07		99	2166		0/184	22643/24809	8.73%		2915	66.93%		16.21m
Thor 4	33.20		196	5876		0/228	25724/31600	18.59%		16962	11.50%		9.63m
BP2	30.35		114	6428		1/294	30596/37024	17.36%		16800	11.61%		8.50m
Ava 2	80.89		142	2412		0/142	18926/21338	11.30%		8986	21.71%		13.75m
Wick 4	222.72		104	876		0/88	12454/13330	6.57%		5448	35.81%		19.82m
AM3	45.47		119	4291		0/235	28265/32556	13.18%		10475	18.63%		7.96m
GOTG3	58.07		90	3360		0/206	26287/29647	11.33%		10750	18.15%		10.16m
Fast X	232.54		28	839		0/182	26871/27710	3.03%		4122	47.33%		17.44m
Indy 5	184.40		35	1058		0/124	18463/19521	5.42%		4767	40.93%		13.28m
Oppy	210.24		22	928		0/53	7322/8250	11.25%		10750	18.15%		22.07m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Dune: Part Two's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

 

Regal:      538/8153  [6.60% sold]
Matinee:    67/2762  [2.43% | 3.43% of all tickets sold]
———    
Sun:          628/814  [77.15% sold] [+11 tickets]
Thr:    1323/23902  [5.54% sold] [+52 tickets]
PLF:      1620/9813  [16.51% | 83.03% of all tickets sold]

 

===

 

Got to admit I am fairly surprised at how well Dune: Part Two did locally in the face of so much local competition (fun fact, when I went on my dinner run during OT, streets were abnormally deserted as was the store I stopped quickly at as well as the restaurant where I got dinner).  Yet here we are.

 

Maybe all those movie trailers reminded folks about D2 in sort of weird halo effect way?  Banner ads hitting phones thanks to targeted advertising from tracking algorithms? ...  Yeah, I gots nothing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Whatever the reason, this is the best day of sales since T-31 (fifth day of pre-sales).

 

Dune: Part Two - Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-17 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	171	22714	24716	2002	8.10%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

51

 

T-17 Comps         UNIFORMLY TERRIBLE EDITION - DON'T TAKE SERIOUSLY AT ALL!!!

	%		Sold T-17	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
Batman	54.49		156	3674		0/248	28624/32298	11.38%		11757	17.03%		13.31m
TGM	59.11		223	3387		0/261	33007/36394	9.31%		11474	17.45%		11.38m
JWD	90.42		48	2214		0/188	22929/25143	8.81%		2915	68.68%		16.28m
Thor 4	33.18		158	6034		0/228	25566/31600	19.09%		16962	11.80%		9.62m
BP2	30.45		146	6574		1/294	30450/37024	17.76%		16800	11.92%		8.53m
Ava 2	79.82		96	2508		0/142	18830/21338	11.75%		8986	22.28%		13.57m
Wick 4	206.60		93	969		0/88	12361/13330	7.27%		5448	36.75%		18.39m
AM3	45.60		99	4390		0/235	28166/32556	13.48%		10475	19.11%		7.98m
GOTG3	58.32		73	3433		0/206	26211/29644	11.58%		10750	18.62%		10.21m
Fast X	230.11		31	870		0/182	26837/27707	3.14%		4122	48.57%		17.26m
Indy 5	181.01		48	1106		0/125	18415/19521	5.67%		4767	42.00%		13.03m
Oppy	205.76		45	973		0/53	7277/8248	11.80%		10750	18.62%		21.60m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Dune: Part Two's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

 

Regal:      537/8153  [6.59% sold]
Matinee:    71/2762  [2.57% | 3.55% of all tickets sold]
———    
Sun:          632/814  [77.64% sold] [+4 tickets]
Thr:    1370/23902  [5.73% sold] [+47 tickets]
PLF:      1664/9813  [16.96% | 83.12% of all tickets sold]

[TheTom]

Madame Web reviews are now available on internet and there’s no consensus about it. While some people call it the worst CBM ever, others say it’s a fantastic movie. it’s been fun to follow them. It seems pretty divisive.

 

I’ll watch it only on VDay, so I have no opinion yet. However, as reviews have influence over box office, I select some of them to show how divisive it seems to be. I’m really curious about the early Rotten Tomatoes score!!!!!
 

#MadameWeb is totally fine. There’s really not a lot to say here. By[@JamesPPoole](https://x.com/jamesppoole/status/1757291067840282988?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg) 

 

#MadameWeb is a fantastic movie packed with some of the best editing and performances. By[@4manofsteel](https://x.com/4manofsteel/status/1757292635377565758?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

 

 #MadameWeb has some cool CG and action sequences, a strong cast of women helmed by a woman and a hot Latino villain.  It’s entertaining enough yet struggles. By [@thecurvycritic](https://x.com/thecurvycritic/status/1757305167752642983?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg) 

 

#MadameWeb is a film that’s feels like it was made for TV (CW/TUBI). The script is WEAK with some fun lines that the actors are trying their best to deliver. The editing is chaotic. By [@GlobalNerdz](https://x.com/globalnerdz/status/1757302902949818492?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

 

Even though it had solid cinematography and an interesting concept, it couldn't be saved due to its terrible execution. [@HollywoodHandle](https://x.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1757283469086921177?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

 

Unfortunately for me, #MadameWeb lacked the spark it needed in nearly every dept: writing, acting, action sequences. There are a few good moments with an excellent overall pacing, but gees was this hard to get through. [@BB18180](https://x.com/bb18180/status/1757284314633675137?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

Edited February 13 by TheTom

[JustLurking]

4 minutes ago, TheTom said:

Madame Web reviews are now available on internet and there’s no consensus about it. While some people call it the worst CBM ever, others say it’s a fantastic movie. it’s been fun to follow them. It seems pretty divisive.

 

I’ll watch it only on VDay, so I have no opinion yet. However, as reviews have influence over box office, I select some of them to show how divisive it seems to be. I’m really curious about the early Rotten Tomatoes score!!!!!
 

#MadameWeb is totally fine. There’s really not a lot to say here. By[@JamesPPoole](https://x.com/jamesppoole/status/1757291067840282988?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg) 

 

#MadameWeb is a fantastic movie packed with some of the best editing and performances. By[@4manofsteel](https://x.com/4manofsteel/status/1757292635377565758?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

 

 #MadameWeb has some cool CG and action sequences, a strong cast of women helmed by a woman and a hot Latino villain.  It’s entertaining enough yet struggles. By [@thecurvycritic](https://x.com/thecurvycritic/status/1757305167752642983?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg) 

 

#MadameWeb is a film that’s feels like it was made for TV (CW/TUBI). The script is WEAK with some fun lines that the actors are trying their best to deliver. The editing is chaotic. By [@GlobalNerdz](https://x.com/globalnerdz/status/1757302902949818492?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

 

Even though it had solid cinematography and an interesting concept, it couldn't be saved due to its terrible execution. [@HollywoodHandle](https://x.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1757283469086921177?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

 

#MadameWeb is an embarrassing mess. Talented stars wasted on probably the worst comic book movie I have ever seen. Filled with atrocious dialogue, awkward editing, & all around laughable structure.

 

Unfortunately for me, #MadameWeb lacked the spark it needed in nearly every dept: writing, acting, action sequences. There are a few good moments with an excellent overall pacing, but gees was this hard to get through. [@BB18180](https://x.com/bb18180/status/1757284314633675137?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

this is not the madame web thread, bring these there

Edited February 13 by JustLurking

[leoh]

12 minutes ago, TheTom said:

Madame Web reviews are now available on internet and there’s no consensus about it. While some people call it the worst CBM ever, others say it’s a fantastic movie. it’s been fun to follow them. It seems pretty divisive.

 

I’ll watch it only on VDay, so I have no opinion yet. However, as reviews have influence over box office, I select some of them to show how divisive it seems to be. I’m really curious about the early Rotten Tomatoes score!!!!!
 

#MadameWeb is totally fine. There’s really not a lot to say here. By[@JamesPPoole](https://x.com/jamesppoole/status/1757291067840282988?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg) 

 

#MadameWeb is a fantastic movie packed with some of the best editing and performances. By[@4manofsteel](https://x.com/4manofsteel/status/1757292635377565758?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

 

 #MadameWeb has some cool CG and action sequences, a strong cast of women helmed by a woman and a hot Latino villain.  It’s entertaining enough yet struggles. By [@thecurvycritic](https://x.com/thecurvycritic/status/1757305167752642983?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg) 

 

#MadameWeb is a film that’s feels like it was made for TV (CW/TUBI). The script is WEAK with some fun lines that the actors are trying their best to deliver. The editing is chaotic. By [@GlobalNerdz](https://x.com/globalnerdz/status/1757302902949818492?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

 

Even though it had solid cinematography and an interesting concept, it couldn't be saved due to its terrible execution. [@HollywoodHandle](https://x.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1757283469086921177?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

 

#MadameWeb is an embarrassing mess. Talented stars wasted on probably the worst comic book movie I have ever seen. Filled with atrocious dialogue, awkward editing, & all around laughable structure.

 

Unfortunately for me, #MadameWeb lacked the spark it needed in nearly every dept: writing, acting, action sequences. There are a few good moments with an excellent overall pacing, but gees was this hard to get through. [@BB18180](https://x.com/bb18180/status/1757284314633675137?s=46&t=sj3jc4WiXn-J0cj43toUUg)

that’s why I avoid having strong opinions about most of movies lol

 

Edited February 13 by leoh

[vafrow]

23 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

Dune Part 2, Western GTA (southern Ontario), T-18 Thursday previews and T-14 EA shows

 

Previews

Total Sales: 347

New Sales: 5

Growth: 1.5%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 18

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 19.3

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Late Afternoon: 7/2

Early Evening: 272/9

Late Evening: 68/7

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 77/7

IMAX: 191/4

VIP: 69/5

4dx: 10/2

 

Comps (no EA)

1.184 of Marvels for $7.8M

 

EA shows

 

Tickets sold: 393

Showtimes/Theatres: 2

Increase: 11

Growth: 2.9%

 

Low sales day, likely due to no Superbowl ad (although, that counters what we saw in Sacramento). Funnily enough, I saw a trailer for Dune yesterday on TV when watching a replay of a Saturday night hockey game.

 

I'll be getting HG:BoSS coming online for a comp later in the week. As a shorter sales period (that was more drawn out), that's probably going to be a tricky comp, but, book based franchise flicks, it's among my better options.

 

Dune Part 2, Western GTA (southern Ontario), T-17 Thursday previews and T-13 EA shows

 

Previews

Total Sales: 352

New Sales: 5

Growth: 1.4%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 18

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 19.6

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Late Afternoon: 7/2

Early Evening: 276/9

Late Evening: 69/7

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 78/7

IMAX: 191/4

VIP: 73/5

4dx: 10/2

 

Comps (no EA)

1.158 of Marvels for $7.6M

 

EA shows

 

Tickets sold: 405

Showtimes/Theatres: 2

Increase: 12

Growth: 3.1%

 

Still at a low growth stage. We need those social media reactions later this week.

[vafrow]

23 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

Madame Web, western GTA (southern Ontario), Opening Day, T-3

 

Previews

Total Sales: 341

New Sales: 54

Growth: 19%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 20

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 17.1

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Early Afternoon: 2/2

Late Afternoon: 28/4

Early Evening: 224/7

Late Evening: 87/7

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 151/7

IMAX: 73/6

VIP: 109/5

Regular: 8/2

 

Comps

1.960x Aquaman 2 for $8.8M

1.056x HG:BoSS for $6.1M

0.780x of The Marvels for $5.2M

Avg: $6.7M

 

Steady day. I don't think this got a trailer during the Canadian broadcast last night.

 

Madame Web, western GTA (southern Ontario), Opening Day, T-2

 

Previews

Total Sales: 442

New Sales: 101

Growth: 30%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 20

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 22.1

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Early Afternoon: 4/2

Late Afternoon: 46/4

Early Evening: 280/7

Late Evening: 112/7

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 189/7

IMAX: 83/6

VIP: 154/5

Regular: 16/2

 

Comps

1.897x Aquaman 2 for $8.5M

1.211x HG:BoSS for $7.0M

0.695x of The Marvels for $4.6M

Avg: $6.7M

 

Still going pretty strong here. We'll see if these early reviews slow it down or not.

[vafrow]

On 2/12/2024 at 7:27 AM, vafrow said:

 

One Love, T-3, western GTA (southern Ontario), Wednesday opener

 

Total Sales: 763

New Sales: 122

Growth: 19%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 20

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 38.2

 

Comps

0.863x of FNAF for $8.9M

2.238 of Madame Web for ($14.9M)*

2.362x HG:BoSS for $14.7M

*Using estimate based on comps

Average: $12.4M

 

Still marching along.

 

I asked this question yesterday, but, I'll throw it up here again. Has anyone heard of any specific organization around this film to make it a big group event, or is this front loading all organic. With TCP , there were church groups booking up theatres from what I understand, that contributed to that first day gross. Is there anything similar here?

 

 

 

One Love, T-2, western GTA (southern Ontario), Wednesday opener

 

Total Sales: 936

New Sales: 173

Growth: 23%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 20

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 46.8

 

Comps

0.881x of FNAF for $9.1M

2.118 of Madame Web for ($14.2M)*

2.564x HG:BoSS for $14.7M

*Using estimate based on comps

Average: $12.2M

 

Digging into the local demographics yesterday made me realize that the the large Jamaican heritage population in this area is probably helping to drive up numbers. I also think that there's a stronger Valentine's Day effect here impacting this and MW.

 

Edited February 13 by vafrow

[Eric Prime]

Quorum Updates

Bob Marley: One Love T-2: 57.32%

Madame Web T-2: 49.8%

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes T-88: 53.09%

A Quiet Place: Day One T-137: 32.59%

Twisters T-158: 37.11%

Deadpool & Wolverine T-165: 53.58%

Wicked - Part 1 T-289: 41.9%

 

Drive-Away Dolls T-11: 15.59% Awareness

Final Awareness: 0% chance of 10M

Low Awareness: 0% chance of 10M

 

Ordinary Angels T-11: 27.18% Awareness

Final Awareness: 15% chance of 10M

Low Awareness: 13% chance of 10M

 

Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire T-39: 47.21% Awareness

T-30 Awareness: 100% chance of 10M, 95% chance of 20M, 86% chance of 30M, 59% chance of 40M, 36% chance of 50M, 32% chance of 60M, 18% chance of 90M, 14% chance of 100M

Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 40M, 60% chance of 50M, 40% chance of 60M

[keysersoze123]

On 2/11/2024 at 10:15 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Madame Web MTC1

VD - 31148/603046 513815.40 2974 shows +3593

Friday - 11186/587800 190025.38 2740 shows +1129

 

Very good increase for this movie as well. Let us how final  2 days of PS and then walkups go. 4m+ look likely unless walkups are terrible. 

Madame Web MTC1 VD - 38539/640134 631016.73 3284 shows +7391

 

Again the increase looks really good. Let us see how it finishes. If only it was not a turd. They could have leveraged the sex appeal of Dakota/Sydney and it would have done well. Instead we get a bland mess. That said OD BO wont be too bad. its just going to collapse post that. 

[DAJK]

I’m fully on board the Bob Marley over 10M OD train. I really think this will play like the next All Eyez on Me, although I hope it can total 60M or so, since the box office is so dire.

 

Madame Webb doesn’t look terrible for OD, I’ll go 5-6M but yea it’s going to collapse hard after that.

[M37]

Chart incoming, refresh for updates...

 

Spoiler

Probably not until tonight though

[Jay Beezy]

56 minutes ago, DAJK said:

I’m fully on board the Bob Marley over 10M OD train. I really think this will play like the next All Eyez on Me, although I hope it can total 60M or so, since the box office is so dire.

 

Madame Webb doesn’t look terrible for OD, I’ll go 5-6M but yea it’s going to collapse hard after that.

 

Times have shifted a good deal over the past few years, but I remember Holmes & Watson, having not been screened in advance for critics, having a 6M OD on Christmas and then dropping so hard after that.

[Krissykins]

Is Madame Web tracking above Bob Marley for Thursday onwards? Would be funny if MW got #1 for the weekend. 

[filmlover]

12 hours ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

It takes place in the late 70s, early 80s and costs more than actual period films

The late 70s/early 80s are now far enough in the past that making a project set during that era will naturally be expensive, especially if we're talking any part of the entertainment industry. One day it's going to cost a pretty penny to recreate the 2010s.

 

But also as @Cmasterclay pointed out, the sets also mean recreating concerts where you'll have to pay and costume hundreds (thousands?) of extras unless you go the Bohemian Rhapsody route and create a mostly CGI audience. That's naturally going to balloon the budget a bit.