The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[keysersoze123]

23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Fall Guy MTC1

Early Shows - 13138/92957 289517.74 378 shows +712

Previews(T-5) - 12908/333762 267563.82 1604 shows +795

Friday - 12689/597869 251911.87 2834 shows +1160

 

Meh Pace for sure. 

Fall Guy MTC1

Early Shows - 14134/92957 310506.22 378 shows +996

Previews(T-4) - 14255/335163 294548.17 1613 shows +1347

Friday - 14545/597869 287956.43 2834 shows +1856

 

Definite sign of acceleration but overall pace is still quite low. let us see how final week goes now.  

[vafrow]

22 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

The Fall Guy, Western GTA (Southern Ontario), T-5, Thursday previews and Wednesday EA

 

Total Sales: 25

New Sales: 2

Growth: 9%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 12

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 1.8

Ticket premium in effect: Yes

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Early Evening: 20/6

Late Evening: 5/6

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

 

Dolby: 18/6

IMAX: 2/4

4DX: 5/2

 

EA sales

Total: 54

Showtimes: 6

Theatres: 5

 

Comps (Previews only, no EA)

0.446x Wonka for $1.6M

0.329x GB:FE for $1.5M

0.095x GxK for $1.0M

0.100x HG:BoSS for $0.6M

Avg: $1.2M

 

I've dropped the comps with EA rolled in. While that number might end up being closer to what the final preview number is, I don't think it's giving an accurate picture. This film is performing bad, and this market seems worse than others.

 

With how bad POTA has been and Garfield, there just seems to be extremely little interest in movie going right now around here.

 

I'd maybe look to see if the sports calendar is the culprit, but the Blue Jays are playing bad, Raptors aren't in the playoffs and the Leafs are now on the brink of elimination. There's nothing else going on. People just aren't interested in what's in the market right now.

 

 

 

The Fall Guy, Western GTA (Southern Ontario), T-4, Thursday previews and Wednesday EA

 

Total Sales: 29

New Sales: 4

Growth: 16%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 12

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 2.1

Ticket premium in effect: Yes

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Early Evening: 24/6

Late Evening: 5/6

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

 

Dolby: 20/6

IMAX: 4/4

4DX: 5/2

 

EA sales

Total: 58

Showtimes: 6

Theatres: 5

 

Comps (Previews only, no EA)

0.403x Wonka for $1.4M

0.349x GB:FE for $1.6M

0.094x GxK for $0.9M

0.099x HG:BoSS for $0.6M

Avg: $1.1M

 

Another ho hum day at a point where even walk up friendly films start seeing some movement.

[vafrow]

22 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, T-12 Thursday previews and Wednesday EA shows, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Total Sales: 41

New Sales: -3

Growth: -7%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 16

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 2.6

Ticket premium in effect: Yes

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Late Afternoon: 1/3

Early Evening: 35/7

Late Evening: 5/6

 

Sales by Format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 13/7

IMAX: 19/6

VIP: 9/3

 

EA shows 

Sales: 24

Theatres: 4

Showtimes: 4

New Sales: 3

 

Comps (excludes EA unless stated)

1.083x Fall Guy (both with EA and preview)

0.084x Dune 2 for $0.8M

0.854x GB:FE for $4.0M

0.261x GxK for $2.6M

0.347x HG: BoSS for $2.0M

 

Average: $2.4M

 

Sales dropped by 3. Cancelled tickets for one of the shows it seems. It keeps getting worse.

 

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, T-11 Thursday previews and Wednesday EA shows, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Total Sales: 51

New Sales: 10

Growth: 24%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 16

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 3.2

Ticket premium in effect: Yes

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Late Afternoon: 3/3

Early Evening: 43/7

Late Evening: 5/6

 

Sales by Format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 21/7

IMAX: 19/6

VIP: 11/3

 

EA shows 

Sales: 26

Theatres: 4

Showtimes: 4

New Sales: 2

 

Comps (excludes EA unless stated)

1.167x Fall Guy (both with EA and preview)

0.100x Dune 2 for $1.0M

0.927x GB:FE for $4.4M

0.302x GxK for $3.0M

0.386x HG: BoSS for $2.2M

 

Average: $2.6M

 

It actually had a decent day. It's still lagging, but hopefully things pick up soon.

[vafrow]

IF, D1, T-18 Thursday previews, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Total Sales: 0

New Sales: NA

Growth: NA

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 14

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 0.0

Ticket premium in effect: No

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Early Evening: 0/7

Late Evening: 0/7

 

Sales by Format (sales/showtimes)

Regular: 0/6

Dolby: 0/4

VIP: 0/4

 

I think this only went up overnight, so it's not too odd to have zero sales. I wanted to at least put a marker down to track for a few days to see if this is resonating at all.

[AniNate]

Cinemark still doesn't have it on sale yet so yeah, I imagine anyone's who's already bought a ticket would have to be an abnormally huge Krasinski fan

[TwoMisfits]

51 minutes ago, AniNate said:

Cinemark still doesn't have it on sale yet so yeah, I imagine anyone's who's already bought a ticket would have to be an abnormally huge Krasinski fan

 

But, it does have it set.

 

IF is getting the same opening sets at my Cinemarks as the Fall Guy - 2 screens (1 PLF) at PLF theater, and 1 screen at non-PLF theater.

[katnisscinnaplex]

19 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Fall Guy	T-4	Jax	6	36	7	43	6,208	0.69%
		Phx	7	24	11	72	4,147	1.74%
		Ral	8	31	4	70	4,762	1.47%
	Total		21	91	22	185	15,117	1.22%
Fall Guy (EA)	T-3	Jax	5	10	5	58	2,007	2.89%
		Phx	1	2	2	28	618	4.53%
		Ral	2	2	9	37	412	8.98%
	Total		8	14	16	123	3,037	4.05%
Tarot	T-4	Jax	5	21	1	10	1,752	0.57%
		Phx	6	16	3	15	2,534	0.59%
		Ral	7	19	0	8	2,550	0.31%
	Total		18	56	4	33	6,836	0.48%

 

Fall Guy (Total) T-4 adjusted comps

 - Jungle Cruise - 1.51x (4.23m)

 - Bullet Train (Total) - .587x (2.76m)

 - Cocaine Bear - missed

 - Civil War - 1.22x (3.53m)

 - Free Guy - 1.11x (2.53m)

 - Ticket to Paradise (Total) - missed

 - Lost City (Total) - .792x (3.11m)

 - Equalizer 3 - .96x (3.65m)

 

Size adjusted comps - 3.27m

 

Tarot T-4 adjusted comps

 - Last Voyage - .371x (278k)

 - M3GAN - missed

 - Black Phone - missed

 - Abigail - .589x (589k)

 - Talk to Me - .379x (472k)

 - The First Omen - missed

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Fall Guy	T-3	Jax	6	37	7	50	6,318	0.79%
		Phx	7	24	10	82	4,147	1.98%
		Ral	8	30	13	83	4,641	1.79%
	Total		21	91	30	215	15,106	1.42%
Fall Guy (EA)	T-2	Jax	5	10	11	69	2,007	3.44%
		Phx	1	2	3	31	618	5.02%
		Ral	2	2	10	47	412	11.41%
	Total		8	14	24	147	3,037	4.84%
Phantom Menace (Re) (OD)	T-4	Jax	5	30	212	212	2,765	7.67%
		Phx	6	19	240	240	2,195	10.93%
		Ral	7	28	283	283	3,036	9.32%
	Total		18	77	735	735	7,996	9.19%
Tarot	T-3	Jax	5	21	3	13	1,752	0.74%
		Phx	6	16	0	15	2,534	0.59%
		Ral	7	19	0	8	2,550	0.31%
	Total		18	56	3	36	6,836	0.53%

 

Fall Guy (Total) T-3 adjusted comps

 - Jungle Cruise - 1.51x (4.25m)

 - Bullet Train (Total) - .58x (2.73m)

 - Cocaine Bear - 1.49x (3.52m)

 - Civil War - 1.21x (3.52m)

 - Free Guy - 1.19x (2.71m)

 - Ticket to Paradise (Total) - missed

 - Lost City (Total) - .797x (3.13m)

 - Equalizer 3 - .971x (3.69m)

 

Size adjusted comps - 3.27m

 

Movie	3-day pace	Prev 3-day	Prev 3-day	Last Day
Fall Guy Total	45.38%	23.69%	12.11%	17.53%
Jungle Cruise	38.95%	29.07%	31.97%	17.16%
Bullet Train + EA	44.78%	29.23%	27.21%	18.86%
Cocaine Bear	49.08%	9.82%	11.56%	-
Civil War	53.61%	38.66%	26.05%	17.79%
Free Guy	50.25%	51.23%	-	9.71%
Lost City Total	64.49%	26.45%	-	16.71%
Equalizer 3	48.02%	38.89%	31.17%	16.20%

 

The last few days it has been on track with comps.  Hoping for +30-35% tomorrow

 

Tarot T-3 adjusted comps

 - M3GAN - missed

 - Abigail - .486x (486k)

 - Talk to Me - .353x (439k)

 - The First Omen - 1.091x (791k)

 - Invitation - .878x (697k)

 - Immaculate - 1.161x (639k)

 

Size adjusted comps - 688k

 

Phantom Menace (OD) T-4 adjusted comps 

 - Ghostbusters Afterlife (Total) - .915x (3.58m)

 - Ghostbusters: FE - 1.094x (3.95m)

 - Transformers 6 (Total) - .489x (3.45m)

 - F9 - .592x (3.65m)

 - Morbius - .748x (3.58m)

 - Indiana Jones - .586x (3.46m)

 

Comparing OD to previews will skew things a little, but not many options here.

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 4/25/2024 at 8:38 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Kingdom of Apes	T-14	Jax	5	47	0	70	8,044	0.87%
		Phx	6	40	-1	72	7,757	0.93%
		Ral	8	42	4	64	6,233	1.03%
	Total		19	129	3	206	22,034	0.93%
Kingdom of Apes (EA)	T-13	Jax	5	9	4	90	1,802	4.99%
		Phx	1	2	4	36	618	5.83%
		Ral	2	2	2	49	412	11.89%
	Total		8	13	10	175	2,832	6.18%

 

T-14 (Total) adjusted comps

 - Fall Guy (Total) - 2.702x

 - M:I 7 (Total) - .552x (4.86m)

 - F9 - .668x (5.03m)

 - Dune - .907x (4.81m)

 - NTTD (Total) - .807x (5.28m)

 - John Wick 4 - .528x (4.7m)

 - TMNT (Total) - .804x (4.77m)

 - Fantastic Beasts 3 - .805x (4.95m)

 

Size adjusted comps - 5.01m

 

Lots of comps coming in around 5m currently.  

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Kingdom of Apes	T-10	Jax	5	47	3	80	8,044	0.99%
		Phx	6	40	3	91	7,757	1.17%
		Ral	8	42	2	77	6,233	1.24%
	Total		19	129	8	248	22,034	1.13%
Kingdom of Apes (EA)	T-9	Jax	5	9	5	104	1,802	5.77%
		Phx	1	2	8	52	618	8.41%
		Ral	2	2	0	49	412	11.89%
	Total		8	13	13	205	2,832	7.24%

 

T-10 (Total) adjusted comps

 - Fall Guy (Total) - 2.397x

 - M:I 7 (Total) - .502x (4.41m)

 - F9 - .561x (4.22m)

 - Dune - .701x (3.72m)

 - NTTD (Total) - .741x (4.85m)

 - John Wick 4 - .461x (4.11m)

 - TMNT (Total) - .758x (4.5m)

 - Fantastic Beasts 3 - .539x (3.31m)

 

Size adjusted comps - 4.59m

 

Guess I'll go ahead to daily posts for this one as we close in on it.

[AniNate]

That seems like decent tracking for Apes. I think $40-45 mil opening should be the expectation

[LonePirate]

Is anyone tracking TPM’s re-release this weekend? Seems like it will easily return to the Top 5 this weekend and might even slide into the Top 3.

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, LonePirate said:

Is anyone tracking TPM’s re-release this weekend? Seems like it will easily return to the Top 5 this weekend and might even slide into the Top 3.

Saturday (May the 4th) is looking to a huge day for it just from glancing at ticket sales. As expected, of course.

[JimmyB]

25 minutes ago, LonePirate said:

Is anyone tracking TPM’s re-release this weekend? Seems like it will easily return to the Top 5 this weekend and might even slide into the Top 3.

How much would it take to finish in 2nd?  7.5m?  I think it'll finish in 2nd place this weekend.  

[emoviefan]

27 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Saturday (May the 4th) is looking to a huge day for it just from glancing at ticket sales. As expected, of course.

The Fall Guy will probably be number one. I think. But it may be closer than anybody would have thought possible. 

[AniNate]

Well clearly some Krasinski fanboys here, two people booked Friday evening

[JimmyB]

 

[Mojoguy]

1 minute ago, JimmyB said:

 

If is trying to piggy back off the Sound of Freedom gimmick. Both movies even have little kids and scary monsters. 

[AniNate]

They really want people to buy tickets today, Regal offering 2500 rewards points 

[titanic2187]

At least paramount is trying new pricing mechanism, from all day matinee price and now PiF to safeguard theatrical experience. Unlike other studio that actively exploiting the moviegoers by shortening the exclusive window. 

[TwoMisfits]

3 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

At least paramount is trying new pricing mechanism, from all day matinee price and now PiF to safeguard theatrical experience. Unlike other studio that actively exploiting the moviegoers by shortening the exclusive window. 

 

Not for IF - that movie does not have all-day matinee price at my Cinemark...

[katnisscinnaplex]

3 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Phantom Menace (OD) T-4 adjusted comps 

 - Ghostbusters Afterlife (Total) - .915x (3.58m)

 - Ghostbusters: FE - 1.094x (3.95m)

 - Transformers 6 (Total) - .489x (3.45m)

 - F9 - .592x (3.65m)

 - Morbius - .748x (3.58m)

 - Indiana Jones - .586x (3.46m)

 

2 hours ago, LonePirate said:

Is anyone tracking TPM’s re-release this weekend? Seems like it will easily return to the Top 5 this weekend and might even slide into the Top 3.

 

Not trying to pick on you, but this is something that happens a lot and it really irks me.  Literally the next to last post when you asked.  I know there are a lot of posts in this thread posted every day (and being paginated doesn't help!), but it makes me feel as though a lot of people don't actually read the posts.  

 

That being said... yeah, TPM is looking pretty solid for this weekend!  I'll take a look at Santikos as well since they do love big franchises.