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[MovieMan89]

2 minutes ago, AndyK said:

For christ sake, when is this going to end?

 

Before everyone is exposed, I can promise you that. Otherwise 75% of the men in Hollywood would be out of jobs and it would cease to function. 

[AndyLL]

17 minutes ago, Goffe said:

 “grabbing, kissing, making comments about physical attributes.”

Again... this is something that should have been dealt with using the HR department long ago.

 

Does Hollywood not believe in HR departments? 

 

Once I was involved in a HR investigation because I equated the employees as peons.  I was including myself in that description but the person that overheard it did not feel that way and went to HR about it.  

 

In my company someone that was overly "touchy-feelly" with other employees would have been nipped in the bud early.  And yes... over the 25 years I've worked here we've had a few like that.  Not sure the results of it because stuff like that was dealt with quickly and privately but I believe the behavior stopped. 

 

Not to mention the hours of harassment training classes we have to go through every year that deals exactly with issues like this.

 

 

[Mojoguy]

Yeah, I only read about the "hug" thing from Variety.

We really need to hear more before we decide to crucify the man.

Disney would have outright fired Lasseter if it had been as bad as some are trying to imply.

[Rebeccas]

Yeah, are there no sexual harrassment seminars in Hollywood companies? Cause I had to sit through that shit every year of grad school even. 

[AniNate]

10 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

The timing is pretty crazy with this with Coco literally releasing tomorrow. Coco hasn't ever been tracking particularly strong and now this happens just in time to have someone to pin all the blame on if it does underperform. 

 

I'm pretty sure the timing was intentional.

[YM!]

How will this effect Coco and Incredibles 2.

[Sal]

He didn't really work on either of them.  I imagine it'll be worse on TS4

[YM!]

2 minutes ago, Sal said:

He didn't really work on either of them.  I imagine it'll be worse on TS4

Still he’s associated with Pixar. I wonder if it’ll effect box office.

[Morieris]

4 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

 

I'm pretty sure the timing was intentional.

 

Coco is looking kind of sacrificial lamb-ish right now...better to expose him now than the day before Incredibles 2. I know he didn't work on either of them, but the GA is only going to hear "Pixar head outed for sexual harassment." .

[YM!]

Just now, Morieris said:

 

Coco is looking kind of sacrificial lamb-ish right now...better to expose him now than the day before Incredibles 2. I know he didn't work on either of them, but the GA is only going to hear "Pixar head outed for sexual harassment." .

How much damage though.

[John Marston]

4 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Still he’s associated with Pixar. I wonder if it’ll effect box office.

Zero effect 

[Barnack]

2 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Still he’s associated with Pixar. I wonder if it’ll effect box office.

That would require a big news coverage of the story, like other pointing out it is hard to point controversy affecting box office (one way or the other), peak post Weinstein story just got us some of the best weekends of the hole year for example.

 

Specially for people really behind the camera and not having their name on anything, would make it even harder.

 

Animal cruelty scandal (manufactured I think ?) didn't hurt A Dog's Purpose box office, it would require something really big to affect Toy story.

[WrathOfHan]

Is it too late to stop Pixar Pier? The project was only made to stroke his ego.

[Sal]

Wouldn't it read "head of WDA" rather than "Head of Pixar" though?

[FantasticBeasts]

Come on guys, I don't buy it for a moment that this will have an effect on Coco's box office. And to be fair, it truly SHOULDN'T.

Edited November 21, 2017 by FantasticBeasts

[AniNate]

Pixar will have plenty of time for damage control before Incredibles 2. Far as this movie is concerned I can only hope it's not hurt too much. 

[Plain Old Tele]

12 minutes ago, AndyLL said:

Again... this is something that should have been dealt with using the HR department long ago.

 

Does Hollywood not believe in HR departments? 

 

Once I was involved in a HR investigation because I equated the employees as peons.  I was including myself in that description but the person that overheard it did not feel that way and went to HR about it.  

 

In my company someone that was overly "touchy-feelly" with other employees would have been nipped in the bud early.  And yes... over the 25 years I've worked here we've had a few like that.  Not sure the results of it because stuff like that was dealt with quickly and privately but I believe the behavior stopped. 

 

Not to mention the hours of harassment training classes we have to go through every year that deals exactly with issues like this.

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Rebeccas said:

Yeah, are there no sexual harrassment seminars in Hollywood companies? Cause I had to sit through that shit every year of grad school even. 

 

I've worked with Disney subsidiaries and there's most definitely sexual harassment seminars. They were mandatory at least once per season (which often meant one every nine months or so). The legal firm that handled the trainings were up front that the entertainment industry is very different from many workplace environments and that stuff like hugging is not only commonplace, but usually welcome. And in my limited experience, that's true, and helped contribute to an atmosphere that was very warm and welcoming. The legal firm made sure to step through the details as well, and California law is very broad-ranging when it comes to harassment. The basic no-nonsense thing they kept hammering into us was, if you're going to do anything like a hug, you need to be damn sure the other person is open to it. Because otherwise you open up yourself (and the company) to a lawsuit.

 

HR departments are usually well-removed from the crew (usually because productions are LLCs working out of separate offices from their parent corporations), but it's imperative that the UPM and/or producer be willing to make a stand for anyone who complains. Above and beyond that, the unions also need to do a better job of protecting their members (and to be fair to them, the ones I'm associated with are definitely making an effort in that regard).

[TwoMisfits]

4 minutes ago, Barnack said:

That would require a big news coverage of the story, like other pointing out it is hard to point controversy affecting box office (one way or the other), peak post Weinstein story just got us some of the best weekends of the hole year for example.

 

Specially for people really behind the camera and not having their name on anything, would make it even harder.

 

Animal cruelty scandal (manufactured I think ?) didn't hurt A Dog's Purpose box office, it would require something really big to affect Toy story.

It is the lead on Drudge and Deadline...linking Disney's name in with a Coco pic in the background on Drudge...

[Rebeccas]

1 minute ago, TwoMisfits said:

It is the lead on Drudge and Deadline...linking Disney's name in with a Coco pic in the background on Drudge...

who the fuck still reads drudge

[Chewy]

18 minutes ago, AndyLL said:

Again... this is something that should have been dealt with using the HR department long ago.

 

Does Hollywood not believe in HR departments? 

 

Once I was involved in a HR investigation because I equated the employees as peons.  I was including myself in that description but the person that overheard it did not feel that way and went to HR about it.  

 

In my company someone that was overly "touchy-feelly" with other employees would have been nipped in the bud early.  And yes... over the 25 years I've worked here we've had a few like that.  Not sure the results of it because stuff like that was dealt with quickly and privately but I believe the behavior stopped. 

 

Not to mention the hours of harassment training classes we have to go through every year that deals exactly with issues like this.

 

It's different when it's a person who's in a position of legitimate power. Someone who feels they're untouchable and can do what they want. Not a coincidence that it's what all these reports have in common