Transformers: The Last Knight | 6/21/2017 | Big Budget, Weak OW?

[Walt Disney]

Just from a numbers perspective, Transformers should not want to be like the Fast and the Furious franchise. Transformers has 3 films (I think there have only been four total) that are among the top 200 domestic adjusted films of all time. Fast and the Furious has one (Furious 7) out of seven films among the top 200 domestic adjusted films of all time. Whatever Transformers is doing domestically, it is doing it much better than The Fast and the Furious films. 

[That One Girl]

45 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

 

It is, and the 14 year old girl Bay thinks is some great actress is absolutely terrible.  She is even worse in actual extended scenes.  

 

Michael Bay never figured out what the Fast and Furious franchise did, and that is as you go along you start having more fun.  Transformers has done the complete opposite and went from having fun to start the series to now so over the top serious it is unwatchable.  

 

I dunno, the 4th one was pretty hilarious for all the wrong reasons.

[The Futurist]

The amount of action in TF4 is nuts, I swear it s like 90 minutes + of pure mayhem.

[75Live]

Just watched the trailer and it's not a bad trailer at all, but yeah I'm not really excited for it.  But I'm sure I will still see it.

[DMan7]

Watching that trailer in 4K with a 4K monitor is GLORIOUS! Bay you have done it again!

[baumer]

24 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

 

It is because there is never any actual emotional weight to it.  His directing and set up and scripts he shoots from are so reliant on the actors telling you how emotional they feel instead of building it up and getting the audience invested.  Nothing ever feels at stake even though everyone is screaming about how they are saving the world.  Hey, another robot fight with shit flying everywhere but who cares.  

 

He was much better at it when he was a younger director.  There are scenes in movies like Bad Boys, The Rock and even Armageddon that have real emotional weight to them.  Now it is Mark Whalberg breathing heavy in slow motion waiting for someone to yell cut and go to craft services to grab a shake while CGI inserts 50 faceless fighting robots into a shot.  

 

I disagree with everything u said here.

[JB33]

I'll say I love Bay's visual style. That trailer was beautiful to watch. Now whether it's a good movie or not remains to be seen.

[EmpireCity]

41 minutes ago, baumer said:

 

I disagree with everything u said here.

 

Of course you do.  

[shayhiri]

The Shay honestly considers the Transformers series to be one of the few things that - if tomorrow a meteorite shower erases humans from the face of the planet - would have made us deserve such fate.

 

If one needs proof that the human race is irredeemably dumb - he needs not look further than this Bay-spawned shitstain of a franchise.

[EmpireCity]

56 minutes ago, Walt Disney said:

Just from a numbers perspective, Transformers should not want to be like the Fast and the Furious franchise. Transformers has 3 films (I think there have only been four total) that are among the top 200 domestic adjusted films of all time. Fast and the Furious has one (Furious 7) out of seven films among the top 200 domestic adjusted films of all time. Whatever Transformers is doing domestically, it is doing it much better than The Fast and the Furious films. 

 

Fast and Furious has increased with each subsequent film since the rebooted 4th film.  They likely won't increase on this one due to no tragedy to center around, but anyone who thinks Transformers is doing better at this point domestically than Fast and Furious, not sure what to say to that.  One of them keeps declining dramatically and the other one has increased steadily.  

[Lordmandeep]

The first one was the most popular domestic blockbuster of 2007 and was far better received than Pirates 3, Shrek 3 and Spiderman 3. 

 

Add the fact it was one of the best sellers of all time for a non animatied film on DVD as well with I believe nearly 18+ million copies sold. 

 

I know to many TF has become a joke but I think we all forget how crazy we all got for the film during the summer of 2007, people went nuts lol 

Edited April 12, 2017 by Lordmandeep

[Elessar]

This is actually a pretty good trailer.

 

Still not watching...

[John Marston]

4 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

 

Fast and Furious has increased with each subsequent film since the rebooted 4th film.  They likely won't increase on this one due to no tragedy to center around, but anyone who thinks Transformers is doing better at this point domestically than Fast and Furious, not sure what to say to that.  One of them keeps declining dramatically and the other one has increased steadily.  

 

 

Fate of the Furious might drop over 100m from F7. Guess they should stop making them. 

 

 

TF films are doing fine. Only way they can get a big increase if they take a long break like Jurassic Park

[JB33]

10 minutes ago, shayhiri said:

The Shay honestly considers the Transformers series to be one of the few things that - if tomorrow a meteorite shower erases humans from the face of the planet - would have made us deserve such fate.

 

If one needs proof that the human race is irredeemably dumb - he needs not look further than this Bay-spawned shitstain of a franchise.

 

Terrible post.

 

I honestly think the world needs more dumb fun in their movies and less pretentiousness. Half the population is so wound up tight that it would help.

 

They're just movies. 2+ hours of entertainment. That's all they're supposed to be.

[EmpireCity]

8 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

Fate of the Furious might drop over 100m from F7. Guess they should stop making them. 

 

 

TF films are doing fine. Only way they can get a big increase if they take a long break like Jurassic Park

 

Neither should stop making them and they both make a profit, it is one of them I think should actually try and make them good.  The other one figured out how to do that, so hopefully finally getting rid of Michael Bay and getting a more competent director might help.  

[kitik]

time to go vote for Transformers in this week's Most Anticipated Movies Thread list:

 

http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/667-box-office-theorys-most-anticipated-films/?page=301

 

(Seriously, I'm usually the only guy who votes for TF, but I know a lot of you have shitty taste too, so come on! Admit it!)

[John Marston]

They tried to make Transformers without Bay three times. Battleship, Pacific Rim, And Power Rangers. Didn't work out too well for them

[Ethan Hunt]

I'm hyped as hell.

[Ethan Hunt]

Just now, John Marston said:

They tried to make Transformers without Bay three times. Battleship, Pacific Rim, And Power Rangers. Didn't work out too well for them

I mean two of those are really enjoyable movies

[Elessar]

22 minutes ago, JB33 said:

 

Terrible post.

 

I honestly think the world needs more dumb fun in their movies and less pretentiousness. Half the population is so wound up tight that it would help.

 

They're just movies. 2+ hours of entertainment. That's all they're supposed to be.

 

Meh, there's more than enough dumb shit in today's blockbusters. I'd take something with a little more seriousness any day.

 

What does that even mean, they are just movies? Shindler's List is also just a movie. Entertainment is more than just laughing at stupid jokes. I can be entertained by feeling sadness or suspense.

Edited April 12, 2017 by Elessar