marveldcfox Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Expected numbers. The marketing was boring and TFA rode on the nostalgia wave just like Jurassic World did to reach those massive numbers both domestically and overseas. This movie does not have that and it is a spinoff, not part of the main trilogy. I am waiting to see how SW8 does compared to SW7. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: That is what we're rolling with now? Is that really enough to warrant <50%, look at Russia lol. Russia hated TFA. It was a flop over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamor Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Italy 750 screens for Rogue One. Last year for SW7 we had 850 screens. SW OW: €8.4M (5 days) SW Total: €25.6M We can expect only 600-700k from today I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hw64 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, terrestrial said: I didn't expect a 50% or higher in France for OD tbh. We will see how the OW will fare. It's not 50% or higher though, if that's what you mean. It's -56% from TFA, so it's doing 44% of what TFA did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaud originel Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 In France the word of mouth is excellent. Lot of people say the movie is really better than SW7. And the last part of the movie is very astounding and shocking.. I think the word of mouth will help the movie. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasticBeasts Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, Valonqar said: Russia hated TFA. It was a flop over there. The 4th highest grossing film of the year was a flop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, Valonqar said: Russia hated TFA. It was a flop over there. It set the OW record I think.... so not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, Valonqar said: How about they realized R1 wasn't a sequel to TFA and didn't care for it? According to German high reputation / selling newspaper comments: 1. bad early WOM, including bad reporting about the female... stupidity. A quoted an example at dom: he expected it to be a vegan Death Star .... plus the reshoots get still reported in a way over the top way and so on. I think the most Star Wars fans are Space Opera fans (a lot of SW fans like GotG but not all CBMs), and SW R1 is described as non-family war Sci-Fi. Plus the strange WOM,... = I see a possibility for the WOM to get repaired by audience reactions, but I still see a lot of little details that might hinder the total possible also Including the earlier mentioned lost public holidays, an IMHO stronger competition the next few weeks incl stronger holdovers, local films partly too. And the newness must-see thing all speak about SW 7 and ..... I do not understand why people react so strongly to each little tidbit, to learn them is react, but why reacting so strongly so early? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, hw64 said: It's not 50% or higher though, if that's what you mean. It's -56% from TFA, so it's doing 44% of what TFA did. I know, there is a minus before the % = SW 7 minus 56% = I am not blind = I wasn't expecting 50% or higher as some seem to have expected. I have no problems with the numbers reached. Expecting was the wrong word anyway. I do not really 'expect'. I think the advertising ... shows that Disney too take the releases not the same way as in the US and maybe later in China. As told, I have not seen even one kind of advertising outside the cinemas. Other OS members told the same. I think some miss many little points that speak against a high OS number. As in OW, I have no feeling for the WOM as I have not seen the film yet and also not read the impressions of people I have a feel for what they think in-depth as an alternative to my own missing impression. = how the non space opera, but 'bordering to an r-rating' war Sci-Fi will impact during X-Mas time I am also not sure. Can go up for good WOM, can go down for being the wrong months, like maybe a late long leg thin at the end of the year / beginning if the new year. If WOM breaks through the not space opera, not fun mixture GA might expect from SW, all is possible too, or the opposite. The Spanish based reviews have me concerned a bit, the amount might mean a translation problem... again (as in it happens too often IMHO, no matter the studio...) = wait for a few weeks and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 22 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said: The 4th highest grossing film of the year was a flop? 21 minutes ago, James said: It set the OW record I think.... so not really. without checking the data more than with a glance = breaking the OW (not sure because admission wise it is not even in the top 10 of the last 8 years) but ending 4th of the year (not even in the top 10 of the last 10 years admission wise) might indicate people didn't like it as much as thought before the release, or? At least as a possibility. It had something over the double of Ant-Man's admissions and way less than e.g. Minions, also less than FF 7, Averngers 2, and maybe 25% more than Terminator Genisys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marveldcfox Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) I wonder how this will do in India when TFA was such a huge disappointment. Edited December 15, 2016 by marveldcfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, marveldcfox said: I wonder how this will do in India when TFA was such a big flop. 30-50% of how much it made while flopping, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alli Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: 30-50% of how much it made while flopping, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 hour ago, marveldcfox said: I am waiting to see how SW8 does compared to SW7. If we go by previous SW trilogies, the drop will be rather big as well. My hunch would be it does numbers that people predicted for R1, around 1.3b, $1.5b at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Some early markets: In HK, OD admissions = 61.5% of EP7 Australia, OD(AU$4.75M)= around 50% of EP7(AU$9.42M) Russia ,OD $1.04M< one third of EP7 France, OD admissions =44% of EP7 Taipei, OD = 31% of EP7 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop54 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Gareth Flopwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 What was NZ OD for TFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hw64 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: What was NZ OD for TFA. $1.57m, so around a 54-55% drop. Edited December 16, 2016 by hw64 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hmm I think with Passengers becoming a turd critically, I think RO has a decent 3 week window overseas to do well. I remember people saying the same thing with TH openings not being that great but it still did about 700 million in the end as its well X-mas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
