Weekend Thread | RTH pg 197...Mother's Day not kind to CW but very kind to JB and MD CW 42, JB 9,7, MDD 6.1,Hunts 1.48...puts CW at about 178M

[EmpireCity]

4 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said:

Wow, what a disappointing weekend. I don't really get what went wrong, the marketing was phenomenal, the reviews were great , spider man was in it , I really can't explain it . Oh well at least the movie was great ....

 

Nothing went wrong.  Gigantic opening, great increase from Friday to Saturday, another $1b guaranteed for Disney/Marvel, fantastic reviews and it jump started Spider-Man, Black Panther and the next Ant-Man movie.  

[John Marston]

6 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said:

Wow, what a disappointing weekend. I don't really get what went wrong, the marketing was phenomenal, the reviews were great , spider man was in it , I really can't explain it . Oh well at least the movie was great ....

Crazy expectations even from box office predicting sites. It's a fine number considering it is is the third Marvel team up in four years

[Daxtreme]

What went wrong is people's expectations.

 

Nothing else.

[JohnnyGossamer]

2 minutes ago, SteveJaros said:

 

How is $182m "going wrong"? It is an AMAZING opening. 

People around here can be goofy. This is $180M+ OW after Deadpool did $132M OW and BatSupes $166M OW within the last 3 months.

[Deathlife]

Yeah, it's a massive opening.

 

Marvel is still chugging along without much problems.

[RamblinRed]

My feeling since reviews started coming out was that Civil War would open a little lower than Ultron but finish slightly higher due to better legs an no JW.

 

[Maxmoser3]

Captain America:Civil War off to a fantastic start for the summer with an estimated $181.7 million this weekend. Which is 4th best debut in the summer right behind Jurassic World, The Avengers, and The Avengers:Age Of Ultron. It is also ahead of the debut of Iron Man 3 from 3 years ago, and is the best debut for the Captain America franchise. With solid holds, Captain Americs should play strong and should make at least $480 million domestic.                                         Fellow Disney release, The Jungle Book took an alright drop and continues to shine with so far $284 million domestic in the bank thus far. With just like Captain America, solid holds should be in store for the weeks to come. The Jungle Book should make at least $355 million domestic.                                         After a so-so debut, Mother's Day increased this weekend with an estimated $9 million this weekend most likely due to the Mother's Day holiday and counter programming. With a potential of some solid holds  for a few more weeks Mother's Day should make around $30 million domestic.                                                  Universal fantasy prequel The Huntsman took yet another steep drop and with its domestic side falling flat on the ground it's likely that this won't recover even with the help of overseas. The Huntsman should make around between $45-49 million domestic.                            Last weekend other release, Keanu took a severe drop for a comedy and should probably die down(even with solid word of mouth) and should make around $22-23 million domestic.                    Barbershop: The Next Cut shaved                  this weekend, and took another bleh drop. The film should make close to $55 million domestic.                Zootopia saw one of its biggest drops yet in its entire run this weekend, with some more momentum left Zootopia should still do strong. The computer animated film should make around $335-340 million domestic. Melissa McCarthy comedy, The Boss saw another big drop this weekend and should be one of Melissa McCarthy's(unless you include St. Vincent) lowest grossing lead star vehicles, and should make around $60 million domestic.         Family animated video game flick Ratchet & Clank had a severe drop and should come close to $10 million domestic.                                          With Captain America out this weekend, Batman V. Superman took a steep toll this weekend and should likely die down in the weeks to come. Batman V. Superman should make $330 million domestic.                                                            

[redfirebird2008]

Great number for Cap 3. I think it has a pretty good chance to beat Ultron's $459m. BvS pretty much died this weekend. 

[4815162342]

28 minutes ago, ecstasy said:

It's getting out of hand B.

 

 

[TalismanRing]

4 minutes ago, nilephelan said:

 

Nothing went wrong.  Gigantic opening, great increase from Friday to Saturday, another $1b guaranteed for Disney/Marvel, fantastic reviews and it jump started Spider-Man, Black Panther and the next Ant-Man movie.  

 

Also for many of those disappointed by Ultron (not me) it probably also boosted interest for Infinity Wars.

 

 

 

 

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

8 minutes ago, kswiston said:

 

I think the stuff featuring Iron Man is sort of this decade's Harry Potter. Massive hits that rank high on the all time list, but since we get them every year, it just becomes expected.

 

Something like Zootopia will make hundreds of millions less, but it's more exciting because it came out of the blue and got to where it was on good WOM. 

Fair, but that's why it's going to be incredible looking back on it years from now. Harry Potter's success is even more incredible today, because they told a complete story through 8 films over 10 years with the same cast. Like, holy shit, how did that actually work? But Marvel has taken it to another level. They are doing a similar thing, but (by the time IW2 comes out) Marvel will have 10 franchises (including Hulk, BP, and Captain Marvel) while also combining them all into a mega-franchise. And there is only one film you could say is even close to a flop (TIH), while the rest of varied to solid hits to some of the biggest movies of all-time.

[SteveJaros]

2 minutes ago, pensivepenguin said:

 

Diminishing returns, runaway expectations + mob mentality, etc.

 

This might have some merit in the long run. E.g., back in the 1990s, Puff Daddy's "Bad Boy" label had some huge hit songs using the same crew of rappers. What I mean is PD would release an album and it would be called a "Puff Daddy" album, but all the songs were billed as "Puff Daddy featuring Mase and the Notorious BIG". Then Mase would release a "solo" album, but the songs would be "Mase featuring Puff Daddy and the Notorious BIG". Lastly, the Notorious BIG would release an album, but the songs would be "Notorious BIG featuring Mase and Puff Daddy".

 

This produced some huge hits, but within a year or two the formula wore out because the songs all sounded the same. And of course the murder of BIG didn't help either.

 

Point is, this was billed as a "Captain America" movie, but it really was "Captain America featuring Iron Man, Black Widow, Spider Man, etc." ... And this coming just one year on the heels of Ultron, which had largely the same crew.

 

That can't go on. These gatherings of multiple heroes have to be RARE to keep their "event" status. Maybe once every 3 years. In between, the movies should be true solo outings, featuring just one hero (Hulk, Thor, Capt, etc.) with maybe the occasional cameo by one more per film. 

 

Or alternatively, Marvel knows how to market their universe better than I do, LOL. After all, we're whining about a film that just did $181m in a weekend and is over 1/2 a billion WW in two weeks of release. 

[Kvikk Lunsj]

13 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said:

Wow, what a disappointing weekend. I don't really get what went wrong, the marketing was phenomenal, the reviews were great , spider man was in it , I really can't explain it . Oh well at least the movie was great ....

How the hell is a 182m a disappointment? Fifth biggest weekend of all time is a disappointment. 

[wileECoyote]

Heh people complaining about is this a Cap v Avengers movie debate and "disappointing" numbers just made me think of the great threads we had a few weeks ago.  

 

[MCKillswitch123]

2016 VS 2015 BOX OFFICE (Week 19)

 

Opening weekends DOM

#1 - Captain America: Civil War (181.7M) vs. Avengers: Age Of Ultron (191.2M)

#2 - Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice (166M) vs. Furious 7 (147.1M)

#3 - Deadpool (132.4M) vs. Fifty Shades Of Grey (85.1M)

#4 - The Jungle Book (103.2M) vs. Cinderella (67.8M)

#5 - Zootopia (75M) vs. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out Of Water (55.3M)

#6 - Kung Fu Panda 3 (41.2M) vs. The Divergent Series: Insurgent (52.2M)

#7 - Ride Along 2 (35.2M) vs. Home (52.1M)

#8 - The Divergent Series: Allegiant (29M) vs. Taken 3 (39.2M)

#9 - 10 Cloverfield Lane (24.7M) vs. Kingsman: The Secret Service (36.2M)

#10 - The Boss (23.5M) vs. Get Hard (33.8M)

EXTRA POINTS: The Revenant (39.8M) vs. American Sniper (89.2M)

TOTAL w/o EP: 811.9M vs. 760M

TOTAL w/EP: 851.7M vs. 849.2M

 

Top 10 DOM

#1 - Deadpool (362.1M) vs. Furious 7 (338.5M)

#2 - Zootopia (327.6M) vs. Avengers: Age Of Ultron (313.4M)

#3 - Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice (327.4M) vs. Cinderella (196.2M)

#4 - The Jungle Book (284.9M) vs. Fifty Shades Of Grey (166.1M)

#5 - Captain America: Civil War (181.7M) vs. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out Of Water (162.4M)

#6 - Kung Fu Panda 3 (142M) vs. Home (162.1M)

#7 - Ride Along 2 (90.8M) vs. The Divergent Series: Insurgent (127.6M)

#8 - 10 Cloverfield Lane (71.4M) vs. Kingsman: The Secret Service (127.2M)

#9 - The Divergent Series: Allegiant (65.7M) vs. Taken 3 (89.2M)

#10 - London Has Fallen (61.9M) vs. Get Hard (87.8M)

TOTAL: 1.915.5B vs. 1.770.5B

 

Top 10 WW

#1 - Zootopia (956.4M) vs. Furious 7 (1.467.8B)

#2 - Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice (865.5M) vs. Avengers: Age Of Ultron (875.8M)

#3 - The Jungle Book (776.2M) vs. Fifty Shades Of Grey (569.5M)

#4 - Deadpool (762M) vs. Cinderella (513.1M)

#5 - Captain America: Civil War (678.4M) vs. Kingsman: The Secret Service (403.2M)

#6 - The Mermaid (552.5M) vs. Taken 3 (320.4M)

#7 - Kung Fu Panda 3 (508.6M) vs. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out Of Water (312.5M)

#8 - The Monkey King 2 (193.7M) vs. Home (308.7M)

#9 - London Has Fallen (191.3M) vs. The Divergent Series: Insurgent (273.4M)

#10 - From Vegas To Macau III (182.5M) vs. Jupiter Ascending (181.2M)

TOTAL: 5.667.1B vs. 5.225.6B

 

Well, whatever advantage 2015 had last week thanks to Ultron was just denied thanks to Civil War's almost as epic debut. 2016 continues to increase on 2015 as Summer season kicks off. Next week is gonna be a fun one, as Pitch Perfect 2 and Mad Max: Fury Road make their entrance into theaters.

 

DAT FURIOUS 7 THO.

[grey ghost]

Marvel loonies went through the 7 stages of grief this weekend:

 

Shock or Disbelief - "What? CW is tracking behind AOU at some theaters? Must be isolated cases."

 

Denial - "Nope still on track for 210 m. WOM is insane."

 

Bargaining - "Maybe it will have abnormal increases Saturday and Sunday"

 

Guilt - "Why did I give in and increase my Summer Game prediction?"

 

Anger - "Fucking people trolling Marvel fans now. BvS had the worst legs! Fuck you people!"

 

Depression - "Maybe Infinity War 1 and 2 really will fall below 400 m DOM."

 

and Acceptance/Hope - "181 m OW is still one of the biggest OW in history. Good legs gets it above AOU DOM." 

[TalismanRing]

3 minutes ago, SteveJaros said:

Or alternatively, Marvel knows how to market their universe better than I do, LOL. After all, we're whining about a film that just did $181m in a weekend and is over 1/2 a billion WW in two weeks of release. 

 

Yeah they just might not what they're doing

 

http://pro.boxoffice.com/weekend-estimates-captain-america-civil-war-claims-fifth-largest-domestic-opening-weekend-time-181-8m/
 

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Disney’s tremendous year at the box office continued this weekend as Captain America: Civil War debuted with an estimated $181.79 million.  The blockbuster superhero sequel starring Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. registered the fifth largest opening weekend performance of all-time (without adjusting for ticket price inflation).  The film also claimed the third largest May debut ever (behind only 2012’s Marvel’s The Avengers and last year’s Avengers: Age of Ultron).  Captain America: Civil War opened just 5 percent below the $191.27 million start of Age of Ultron and 4 percent ahead of the $174.14 million debut of 2013’s Iron Man 3.  The Marvel Cinematic Universe is currently responsible for the third (The Avengers), fourth (Age of Ultron), fifth (Civil War) and sixth (Iron Man 3) largest debuts of all-time.

 

 

[VGPOP]

I want to congratulate to CW for a humongous weekend. Indeed a spectacular number. A few things we all were able to get from this movie.

 

No matter how big, no matter the time, no matter how many good reviews, no matter the lack of competition, for a movie to gross $200+ million at this age is EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY difficult.

 

We have been lucky to witness three movies to hit this mark in the last four years (two of them last year). But we better be careful of calling a movie a guarantee 200+ million nowadays.

 

Congrats to all who called this number. It came even less than my $194.5 million original prediction. To be able to stick with this number (around $180 million) for all this time is what separates the sane prognosticators from the crazy ones.

[baumer]

39 minutes ago, Ohana said:

So half way through into 2016 which many thought would be the best CBM year nothing extraordinary happend

BvS will finish around 333M dom and 875-880M, CW around 1.2B

I think X-Men is gonna be one of the most least successful in the franchise, and SS might be a huge surprise.

 

Except Deadpool being a smash hit and Civil War on pace to gross about 75-80% more than WS. WW.

 

Yep nothing extraordinary here.

[Kvikk Lunsj]

3 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

Yeah they just might not what they're doing

 

http://pro.boxoffice.com/weekend-estimates-captain-america-civil-war-claims-fifth-largest-domestic-opening-weekend-time-181-8m/
 

 

If count all Disney films it also has the number one spot.