Film Piracy (opinions and box office effect)

[Mojoguy]

I'd argue the last best seller on home video was Frozen, which was the second most pirated movie of 2014. If a movie is good enough, people will buy it on home video. TFA has been selling good on Bluray, but it has been flopping in the dvd sales.

Most Pirated Movies of 2014
1. “The Wolf of Wall Street”: 30.035 million (Paramount, Dec. 25, 2013)
2. “Frozen”: 29.919 million (Disney, Nov. 27, 2013)
3. “RoboCop”*: 29.879 million (MGM, Feb. 12, 2014; and Orion, July 17, 1987)
4. “Gravity”: 29.357 million (Warner Bros., Oct. 4, 2013)
5. “The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug”: 27.627 million (Warner Bros., Dec. 13, 2013)
6. “Thor: The Dark World”: 25.749 million (Disney/Marvel, Nov. 8, 2013)
7. “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”: 25.628 million (Disney/Marvel, April 4, 2014)
8. “The Legend of Hercules”: 25.137 million (Summit, Jan. 10, 2014)
9. “X-Men: Days of Future Past”: 24.380 million (20th Century Fox, May 23, 2014)
10. “12 Years a Slave”: 23.653 million (Fox Searchlight, Oct. 18, 2013)
11. “The Hunger Games: Catching Fire”: 23.543 million (Lionsgate, Nov. 22, 2013)
12. “American Hustle”: 23.143 million (Sony/Columbia, Dec. 13, 2013)
13. “300: Rise of an Empire”: 23.096 million (Warner Bros., March 7, 2014)
14. “Transformers: Age of Extinction”: 21.65 million (Paramount, June 27, 2014)
15. “Godzilla”: 20.956 million (Warner Bros., May 16, 2014)
16. “Noah”: 20.334 million (Paramount, March 28, 2014)
17. “Divergent”: 20.312 million (Lionsgate, March 21, 2014)
18. “Edge of Tomorrow”: 20.299 million (Warner Bros., June 6, 2014)
19. “Captain Phillips”: 19.817 million (Sony/Columbia, Oct. 11, 2013)
20. “Lone Survivor”: 19.130 million (Universal, Dec. 25, 2013)

http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/top-20-most-pirated-movies-of-2014-led-by-wolf-of-wall-street-frozen-gravity-1201388403/

[That One Girl]

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Edited June 8, 2022 by That One Guy

[redfirebird2008]

Mojo, thanks for posting that list. 2015 saw a pretty crazy increase in pirates. Interstellar topped the list at 46.8 million illegal downloads. Bastards likely kept it from reaching $200m domestic and $500m overseas. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35198319

Edited December 31, 2016 by redfirebird2008

[elcaballero]

Just now, redfirebird2008 said:

Mojo, thanks for posting that list. 2015 saw a pretty crazy increase in pirates. Interstellar topped the list at 46.8 million illegal downloads. Bastards likely kept it from reaching $200m domestic. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35198319

@MrPink

[Mojoguy]

Some of the blame should be on studios for stupidly shortening the time between theater release and video release, soon movies will come out on video one month after being on the big screen.

This just isn't sustainable in the long run.

[Ryan Reynolds]

watching pirated movies is just too easy now,  you don't have to torrent anything, you can stream everything on demand in HD from sites, my 70 year old dad does this, i prefer going to theater for the bigscreen experience, but ticket prices are getting out of hand with $25 IMAX tickets

 

Hollywood just needs a premium like Netflix service for like $50 a month with unlimited movies, but they must be careful or they will kill the movies theaters like Netflix killed Blockbuster

[kowhite]

10 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

watching pirated movies is just too easy now,  you don't have to torrent anything, you can stream everything on demand in HD from sites, my 70 year old dad does this, i prefer going to theater for the bigscreen experience, but ticket prices are getting out of hand with $25 IMAX tickets

 

Hollywood just needs a premium like Netflix service for like $50 a month with unlimited movies, but they must be careful or they will kill the movies theaters like Netflix killed Blockbuster

 

Careful indeed...Netflix can't afford killing theaters.  Nobody can.  Unless everyone wants budgets to take a nosedive.  We've already seen that with movies that aren't mega blockbuster amusement park type films.

[The Panda]

58 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Holy shit...this makes me wonder how much money some of the smaller releases on here would've made.  Would Wolf of Wall Street gotten to 150M?  Would Robocop not be a flop?  Would Legend of Hercules actually make a decent profit?  I'm not defending the artistic merits of some of these films, but some of the films on here are ones the studio lost money over.

 

 

Just because people pirate movies doesn't mean they'd buy them, especially if they had heard the movie wasn't all that good.

[Bishop54]

I'm not paying for a movie unless I'm really interested in it and most likely will like it. 

[cannastop]

1 minute ago, Bishop54 said:

I'm not paying for a movie unless I'm really interested in it and most likely will like it. 

Are you implying you pirate movies you don't think you'll like?

[Bishop54]

1 hour ago, Mojoguy said:

I'd argue the last best seller on home video was Frozen, which was the second most pirated movie of 2014. If a movie is good enough, people will buy it on home video. TFA has been selling good on Bluray, but it has been flopping in the dvd sales.

Most Pirated Movies of 2014
1. “The Wolf of Wall Street”: 30.035 million (Paramount, Dec. 25, 2013)
2. “Frozen”: 29.919 million (Disney, Nov. 27, 2013)
3. “RoboCop”*: 29.879 million (MGM, Feb. 12, 2014; and Orion, July 17, 1987)
4. “Gravity”: 29.357 million (Warner Bros., Oct. 4, 2013)
5. “The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug”: 27.627 million (Warner Bros., Dec. 13, 2013)
6. “Thor: The Dark World”: 25.749 million (Disney/Marvel, Nov. 8, 2013)
7. “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”: 25.628 million (Disney/Marvel, April 4, 2014)
8. “The Legend of Hercules”: 25.137 million (Summit, Jan. 10, 2014)
9. “X-Men: Days of Future Past”: 24.380 million (20th Century Fox, May 23, 2014)
10. “12 Years a Slave”: 23.653 million (Fox Searchlight, Oct. 18, 2013)
11. “The Hunger Games: Catching Fire”: 23.543 million (Lionsgate, Nov. 22, 2013)
12. “American Hustle”: 23.143 million (Sony/Columbia, Dec. 13, 2013)
13. “300: Rise of an Empire”: 23.096 million (Warner Bros., March 7, 2014)
14. “Transformers: Age of Extinction”: 21.65 million (Paramount, June 27, 2014)
15. “Godzilla”: 20.956 million (Warner Bros., May 16, 2014)
16. “Noah”: 20.334 million (Paramount, March 28, 2014)
17. “Divergent”: 20.312 million (Lionsgate, March 21, 2014)
18. “Edge of Tomorrow”: 20.299 million (Warner Bros., June 6, 2014)
19. “Captain Phillips”: 19.817 million (Sony/Columbia, Oct. 11, 2013)
20. “Lone Survivor”: 19.130 million (Universal, Dec. 25, 2013)

http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/top-20-most-pirated-movies-of-2014-led-by-wolf-of-wall-street-frozen-gravity-1201388403/

I sure wish I pirated Godzilla instead of paying nearly $20 to see that turd in IMAX. 

[Bishop54]

1 minute ago, cannastop said:

Are you implying you pirate movies you don't think you'll like?

No I'm implying that if they aren't slam dunks then I'll watch them on my fire stick. 

[That One Girl]

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Edited June 8, 2022 by That One Guy

[Bishop54]

Just now, That One Guy said:

 

Godzilla was fantastic, the fuck you getting at here.

It was a piece of crap. Killing off the only good character less than halfway through and hiding Godzilla from audiences, real good flick.

[That One Girl]

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Edited June 8, 2022 by That One Guy

[robertman2]

1 hour ago, redfirebird2008 said:

Mojo, thanks for posting that list. 2015 saw a pretty crazy increase in pirates. Interstellar topped the list at 46.8 million illegal downloads. Bastards likely kept it from reaching $200m domestic and $500m overseas. 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35198319

Good.

 

6 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Godzilla was fantastic, the fuck you getting at here.

Agreed. Its still rough movie though

[Arlborn]

So, I have HBO, I pay monthly for it, and still I downloaded every Westworld episode besides the first one. In fact I do that ALL the time with TV shows even though I actually pay for the cable channels they are on over here. Where do I stand in this morality issue here?

 

Oh, I've watched BVS at the theater but I downloaded the Ultimate Edition and I'm not sure how to feel about that one either.

[Plain Old Tele]

17 minutes ago, kowhite said:

 

Careful indeed...Netflix can't afford killing theaters.  Nobody can.  Unless everyone wants budgets to take a nosedive.  We've already seen that with movies that aren't mega blockbuster amusement park type films.

 

Quoted for truth. Everyone loves CBMs, but if the studios choose to punt on big budgets, adios everyone's favorite movies (they'll probably still get made, but with a fraction of the action & VFX they have now).

 

I think it's important to realize no one has to act maliciously here. My show wasn't renewed because the numbers didn't make sense for Disney. Now, there are multiple reasons for that, but one of them is that fans would immediately put full episodes up on YouTube (pitch-shifting audio or cropping the image to get around YT restrictions). They didn't do this out of hatred -- they did it because they liked the show. But the outcome was fewer viewers on platforms that Disney cared about (namely, their own app and channel). 

[Bishop54]

My bestest friend lives in the Netherlands and she has a subscription through the theater chain Pathe where for $19 a month she can see any and as many films as she chooses. For IMAX showings she has to pay like $1.50 upgrade fee. Why don't more markets implement this, surely it would cut down on piracy and at the same time people are more likely to spend more money on concessions.

[That One Girl]

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Edited June 8, 2022 by That One Guy