The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Ledmonkey96]

Endgame previews are 603/763 so I guess my theaters more or less stalled out for the time being, granted 79% of tickets sold 3 weeks ahead is rather impressive.

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Not a lot of growth at my local either unless people want 3D seats  The 2D, RPX & fan Showing shows are all pretty much front row and wheelchair places left

They've added 3 more regular 2D times but they haven't gone live yet and to match AIW they'd have to add another 2 so people are most likely waiting.

 

2D:  1235/ 1408= 87.71%

RPX:  590/640 = 92.19%

Fan Fest:  251/257 = 97.66%

3D: 724/1689 =  42.87%  (4.25% rise)

 

2800/3994   = 70.1%

Without 3D being force fed (7 out of 15 showings is ridiculous) they probably could have sold at least another 600-700 seats. I guess they're hoping people will be desperate enough to see it o/w that the $3.50 mark up will be worth it.

 

 

 

Locally our 2D:3D spilt isn't too bad.

 

2D: 175

3D:   44 (20.09%)

 

Not as low as the initial Captain Marvel split (which I'd have to look up), but under the final split for IW (2D: 129 | 3D: 53  [29.12%])

 

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Speaking of adding things, the local TrueIMAX theater (i.e. exactly one IMAX screen and that's it) has a 6pm and 9:45pm showing, both nearly sold out (96.01% and 88.56%). Not only that, but they're both 3D!!! 

 

I wonder if they'll be contractually allowed to add a 1:30 or 1:45am showing.  They've had 1am showings for SW films before, and the 2am 2D PLF showing at Century Arden are doing pretty brisk business (33% sold at the moment).  So kinda wondering if they're leaving some money on the table by not having a 1:30am or 1:45am showing.  Given that both of the IMAX screenings are nearly sold out, I have to think they'd sell at least 100 or so tickets for a 1:30am showing (it has 376 non-wheelchair/non-wheelchair assist seats available).

 

But maybe they have a hard contract and can't change it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Porthos]

So I decided to check out Century Arden for the first Friday of EG's run. And, well, I found out one way Century Arden at least is going to try to squeeze in extra showings on OW for Endgame:

 

Fri

7:30 am (2D - PLF)

8:05a (2D)

8:35a (2D)

9:10a (2D)

9:45a (3D)

 

Usually the first showings 'round these parts is at 9:30am to 10:00am or so.  So Arden is already squeezing in four showings on the front end, including on its PLF screen.

 

How are they selling?  Pretty well, actually.  But why don't I do something nice for y'all and put the entire block for Friday at Century Arden, as it stands right now:

 

Arden Fri	    Seats Left   Total Seats  Pct Sold
3:10 (3D)		137		260	47.31%
9:45a (3D)		92		110	16.36%
1:35 (3D)		77		110	30.00%
5:25 (3D)		37		110	66.36%
9:15 (3D)		43		110	60.91%
1:05a [Sat] (3D)	104		110	5.45%
7:30a (2D)		169		260	35.00%
11:20a (2D)		108		260	58.46%
7:00 (2D)		24		260	90.77%
10:50 (2D)		66		260	74.62%
8:05a (2D)		112		160	30.00%
8:35a (2D)		130		161	19.25%
9:10a (2D)		52		110	52.73%
11:55a (2D)		83		160	48.13%
12:25 (2D)		71		161	55.90%
1:00 (2D)		39		110	64.55%
3:45 (2D)		40		160	75.00%
4:15 (2D)		39		161	75.78%
4:50 (2D)		25		110	77.27%
7:35 (2D)		13		160	91.88%
8:05 (2D)		14		161	91.30%
8:40 (2D)		16		110	85.45%
11:25 (2D)		55		160	65.63%
11:55 (2D)		71		161	55.90%
12:30a [Sat] (2D)	66		110	40.00%
			1683		4005	57.98% full

Total Showings:  25 (2D: 19 | 3D: 6)
Total Seats Sold So Far: 2322
57.98% of seats sold

 

That's... not too shabby for three weeks away!  Keep in mind that this is the initial slate with only their 5 biggest auditoriums (they have 14 screens available). 

 

And those early showings?  Well, the PLF 7:30a one is at 35% capacity (practically the entire upper bowl), so I think they're pretty happy having scheduled something that early.

 

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Two other things. First off, I almost never systematically check the actual FSS of OW, and when I do I never keep records, so don't bother asking for comps.

 

Secondly, if you folks are extra extra lucky, I'll go ahead and check out Sat and Sun for Century Arden as well.  Just so we have some idea of how the OW itself is selling at the busier theaters in my region.

 

EDITED TO ADD:

 

A Quick and Dirty compare/contrast for Thur Previews (behind a spoiler bar)

 

Spoiler

Arden Thr	Seats Left       Total Seats	      Prct Sold	
7:00 (3D)		7		110		93.64%
10:55 (3D)		34		110		69.09%
2:50a (3D)		100		110		9.09%
6:00 (2D)		6		260		97.69%
10:00 (2D)		25		260		90.38%
2:00a (2D)		127		260		51.15%
6:30 (2D)		1		160		99.38%
7:30 (2D)		0		110		100.00%
7:45 (2D)		7		96		92.71%
8:00 (2D)		5		161		96.89%
8:30 (2D)		7		80		91.25%
9:15 (2D)		13		110		88.18%
10:25 (2D)		14		160		91.25%
11:15 (2D)		25		55		54.55%
11:25 (2D)		27		110		75.45%
11:40 (2D)		38		96		60.42%
11:55 (2D)		43		161		73.29%
12:25a (2D)		36		80		55.00%
1:10a (2D)		48		110		56.36%
2:20a (2D)		107		160		33.13%
5:00 (2D)		0		110		100.00%
				
	               670		2869	          76.65%

Total Showings:  21 (2D: 18 | 3D: 3)
Total Seats Sold So Far: 2199
76.65% of seats sold

 

Upshot?

Thr: 2199/2869 = 76.65% sold

Fri:  2322/4005 = 57.98% sold

 

Interpet  that however you want.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Porthos

[Porthos]

Edited in the Thr comp for Century Arden to my last post so there is a compare/contrast between the two dates. 

 

And, yes, since I went ahead and did that, I'll go ahead and do Sat and Sun sometime tomorrow in a new post (along with repeating Thr and Fri).  No promises when tomorrow, though.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Porthos

[john2000]

36 minutes ago, Porthos said:

So I decided to check out Century Arden for the first Friday of EG's run. And, well, I found out one way Century Arden at least is going to try to squeeze in extra showings on OW for Endgame:

 

Fri

7:30 am (2D - PLF)

8:05a (2D)

8:35a (2D)

9:10a (2D)

9:45a (3D)

 

Usually the first showings 'round these parts is at 9:30am to 10:00am or so.  So Arden is already squeezing in four showings on the front end, including on its PLF screen.

 

How are they selling?  Pretty well, actually.  But why don't I do something nice for y'all and put the entire block for Friday at Century Arden, as it stands right now:

 

Arden Fri	    Seats Left   Total Seats  Pct Sold
3:10 (3D)		137		260	47.31%
9:45a (3D)		92		110	16.36%
1:35 (3D)		77		110	30.00%
5:25 (3D)		37		110	66.36%
9:15 (3D)		43		110	60.91%
1:05a [Sat] (3D)	104		110	5.45%
7:30a (2D)		169		260	35.00%
11:20a (2D)		108		260	58.46%
7:00 (2D)		24		260	90.77%
10:50 (2D)		66		260	74.62%
8:05a (2D)		112		160	30.00%
8:35a (2D)		130		161	19.25%
9:10a (2D)		52		110	52.73%
11:55a (2D)		83		160	48.13%
12:25 (2D)		71		161	55.90%
1:00 (2D)		39		110	64.55%
3:45 (2D)		40		160	75.00%
4:15 (2D)		39		161	75.78%
4:50 (2D)		25		110	77.27%
7:35 (2D)		13		160	91.88%
8:05 (2D)		14		161	91.30%
8:40 (2D)		16		110	85.45%
11:25 (2D)		55		160	65.63%
11:55 (2D)		71		161	55.90%
12:30a [Sat] (2D)	66		110	40.00%
			1683		4005	57.98% full

Total Showings:  25 (2D: 19 | 3D: 6)
Total Seats Sold So Far: 2322
57.98% of seats sold

 

That's... not too shabby for three weeks away!  Keep in mind that this is the initial slate with only their 5 biggest auditoriums (they have 14 screens available). 

 

And those early showings?  Well, the PLF 7:30a one is at 35% capacity (practically the entire upper bowl), so I think they're pretty happy having scheduled something that early.

 

=======

 

Two other things. First off, I almost never systematically check the actual FSS of OW, and when I do I never keep records, so don't bother asking for comps.

 

Secondly, if you folks are extra extra lucky, I'll go ahead and check out Sat and Sun for Century Arden as well.  Just so we have some idea of how the OW itself is selling at the busier theaters in my region.

 

EDITED TO ADD:

 

A Quick and Dirty compare/contrast for Thur Previews (behind a spoiler bar)

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Arden Thr	Seats Left       Total Seats	      Prct Sold	
7:00 (3D)		7		110		93.64%
10:55 (3D)		34		110		69.09%
2:50a (3D)		100		110		9.09%
6:00 (2D)		6		260		97.69%
10:00 (2D)		25		260		90.38%
2:00a (2D)		127		260		51.15%
6:30 (2D)		1		160		99.38%
7:30 (2D)		0		110		100.00%
7:45 (2D)		7		96		92.71%
8:00 (2D)		5		161		96.89%
8:30 (2D)		7		80		91.25%
9:15 (2D)		13		110		88.18%
10:25 (2D)		14		160		91.25%
11:15 (2D)		25		55		54.55%
11:25 (2D)		27		110		75.45%
11:40 (2D)		38		96		60.42%
11:55 (2D)		43		161		73.29%
12:25a (2D)		36		80		55.00%
1:10a (2D)		48		110		56.36%
2:20a (2D)		107		160		33.13%
5:00 (2D)		0		110		100.00%
				
	               670		2869	          76.65%

Total Showings:  21 (2D: 18 | 3D: 3)
Total Seats Sold So Far: 2199
76.65% of seats sold

 

Upshot?

Thr: 2199/2869 = 76.65% sold

Fri:  2322/4005 = 57.98% sold

 

Interpet  that however you want.

sorry if my question seems stupid but is this a good sign talking about your edit to add comment maybe i didnt understand it correctly so excuse me if i missed something

[Porthos]

26 minutes ago, john2000 said:

sorry if my question seems stupid but is this a good sign talking about your edit to add comment maybe i didnt understand it correctly so excuse me if i missed something

Let me put it to you this way.  Century Arden sold 2,103 tickets for IW on its Thr preview night at stop of tracking [6:00pm ish], if I read my sheets correctly.

 

EG has already passed that number of tickets sold for the first Friday, three weeks out (2,322).

 

Now, many of the tickets are for matinee showings, so a strict like-for-like comparison can't and shouldn't be made. 

 

But, just saying, that if EG has already surpassed the IW Thr raw ticket count for Fri three weeks out...

 

Well, it's a good sign, I would think.

 

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NOTE::: Cen Arden is one of the best selling theaters in the region, so it might not be indicative of other theaters nationwide.  So, grain of salt and all that.  Still, and I keep repeating this: Three. Weeks. Out.

 

(any other comments will have to wait 'till I wake up in the morning )

Edited April 5, 2019 by Porthos

[john2000]

2 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Let me put it to you this way.  Century Arden sold 2,103 tickets for IW on its Thr preview night at stop of tracking [6:00pm ish], if I read my sheets correctly.

 

EG has already passed that number of tickets sold for the first Friday, three weeks out (2,322).

 

Now, many of the tickets are for matinee showings, so a strict like-for-like comparison can't and shouldn't be made. 

 

But, just saying, that if EG has already surpassed the IW Thr raw ticket count for Fri three weeks out...

 

Well, it's a good sign, I would think.

 

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NOTE::: Cen Arden is one of the best selling theaters in the region, so it might not be indicative of other theaters nationwide.  So, grain of salt and all that.  Still, and I keep repeating this: Three. Weeks. Out.

 

(any other comments will have to wait 'till I wake up in the morning )

thank you very much hope you dont mind ,if my questions sound a bit stupid

[gfb]

4 hours ago, FlashMaster659 said:

Endgame Fandango

 

00:00 32,688

It seems you've calculated across all formats, so I'll run with this number. I'll do some comps with AIW even if it's not perfect due to time span of ticket sales as Endgame probably still benefits from the early buzz even though the rush seems to be gone. But...

 

AIW sold 10677 tickets on 9 April 2018, 18 days before release. %32,6 of Endgame sales on 4 April 2019, 22 days before release.

AIW sold 23690 tickets on 18 April 2018, 9 days before release. %72.4 of Endgame sales on 4 April 2019, 22 days before release.

Edited April 5, 2019 by gfb
fixed days before release

[XXR vs XXR]

@Porthos

 

I’ll be very curious to see if you market can hit 25k tickets available, and a 90% sold rate. 

[Deep Wang]

7 hours ago, Porthos said:

*sees @Deep Wang post in thread*

*hurriedly clicks on thread*

 

Oh.

 

*sees Deep Wang post in thread again*

*clicks quickly*

 

Ah.

 

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I am a disappoint, Deep Wang.

 

(lol j/k naturally )

 

 

 

Heh, sorry.

 

One of my guys did get back to me yesterday, but all he told me was that either they are hiding the number or it's still broken.

 

Either way that could only mean one thing....$300m locked and loaded!!  

[sabrecmc]

AMCs in my Dallas area have added 2:30, 3:30 and 4am shows.  Guess they are just going to power thru the weekend.  Hats off to theater employees.  

[cdsacken]

53 minutes ago, sabrecmc said:

AMCs in my Dallas area have added 2:30, 3:30 and 4am shows.  Guess they are just going to power thru the weekend.  Hats off to theater employees.  

Dallas eh? I lived in Lewisville/Flowermound TX, headed to Dallas often back in 2016.

[Lordmandeep]

Presales are still going strong

 

My showing on Friday went from 88 tickets sold on Tuesday night to 222 tickets sold today.

 

 

its 444 seat theater so imagine by friday night it be like 99% sold out.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Lordmandeep

[XXR vs XXR]

2 hours ago, Deep Wang said:

 

Heh, sorry.

 

One of my guys did get back to me yesterday, but all he told me was that either they are hiding the number or it's still broken.

 

Either way that could only mean one thing....$300m locked and loaded!!  

 

I may have to rethink my “TLK > Endgame” analysis. For now though, I’m still going to believe in the long-legged summer power of the king over this unprecedented hype.

 

[Deep Wang]

8 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

I may have to rethink my “TLK > Endgame” analysis. For now though, I’m still going to believe in the long-legged summer power of the king over this unprecedented hype.

 

 

I am 'mostly' joking.

 

[Eric Duncan]

Well, back to what I do best...

 

Movie/Time

Monday

Tuesday

Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

Saturday

Sunday

Avengers: Endgame		N/A	***10,258	30,275
		24 days	23 days	22 days	21 days	20 days	19 days

***7pm-12am

 

22 days before release:

2693% of Captain Marvel (4.1B)

 

Third day of presales:

908% of Captain Marvel (1.4B)

 

Cumulative from 22 days before release (including Endgame's incomplete Wednesday):

75% of Captain Marvel (115.4M)

 

So...yeah, like every other movie I've done this with, I don't have enough data to actually have anything definitive. And for that matter, the fact that this Thursday # is leaps and bounds above every other 2019 comp I have so far complicates things even further. But this is obviously doing great business and will probably do very well (I know, shocker)

[Matthew]

Avengers Endgame seems like it will remain in the Top 5 MT.com this weekend. And after that it will surely remain in top 5.

 

Has this ever happened before? 

[Legion Again]

115M-4100M 🤔

[Legion Again]

4 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Avengers Endgame seems like it will remain in the Top 5 MT.com this weekend. And after that it will surely remain in top 5.

 

Has this ever happened before? 

I was just thinking this looked like it would happen. It would be a first. Honestly getting pretty hot and bothered about it     

 

Also would probably lead to Endgame spending like 60 consecutive days in the MT top 5, but I suspect that loses to TFA and BP.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[Deep Wang]

1 hour ago, Thanos Legion said:

I was just thinking this looked like it would happen. It would be a first. Honestly getting pretty hot and bothered about it     

 

Also would probably lead to Endgame spending like 60 consecutive days in the MT top 5, but I suspect that loses to TFA and BP.

It's still early in the day, people are at work and school.  It will def drop a lot tonight and tomorrow, but how much remains to be seen.

 

I would love for it to stay in the top five though, that would be pretty insane.