MOEDAY NUMBERS (The Last Chapter): DUNKIRK:$6.44M | GT:$3.46M | SMH:$3.36M | APES:$2.9M | DP3:$2.32M | VAL:$1.82M | WW:$0.73M

[AndyK]

52 minutes ago, XO21 said:

At this rate WW will place above Valerian 

It can't, its not a movie centred on America.

[Valonqar]

Spidey is stabilizing its daily drops. That's a good hold from last Monday, no? 

[fmpro]

Great number for Homecoming...

 

Finally some indication of legs

[fmpro]

3 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

Spidey is stabilizing its daily drops. That's a good hold from last Monday, no? 

 

Its better than good..

[Jake Gittes]

4 minutes ago, PenguinHyphy said:

The movie literally recreates scenes in classic musicals and a few non-musicals and tries to parade as innovative. 

 

Care to give examples? 

[Valonqar]

Just now, fmpro said:

 

Its better than good..

[grim22]

All movies bar Apes, Valerian and Transformers seemed to hold well. Apart from Apes and Transformers (47MD and The House which suffered a crippling theater loss), good holds from last week as well. DM3, WW, Big Sick and Cars with crazy holds from last week. A little too late for Cars unfortunately, looks like it will sputter to a halt at about 150M domestic and a sub 3x which is hilarious for an animated movie released in summer.

 

TD	YD	Title (Click to View)	Studio	Daily Gross	% +/- YD / LW		Theaters / Avg		Gross To-Date	Day
1	1	Dunkirk	WB	$6,444,109	-51%	-	3,720	$1,732	$56,957,597	4
2	2	Girls Trip	Uni.	$3,464,800	-59%	-	2,591	$1,337	$34,666,720	4
3	3	Spider-Man: Homecoming	Sony	$3,361,636	-51%	-38%	4,130	$814	$255,213,302	18
4	4	War for the Planet of the Apes	Fox	$2,603,761	-60%	-55%	4,100	$635	$100,838,898	11
5	6	Despicable Me 3	Uni.	$2,326,850	-41%	-12%	3,525	$660	$215,947,125	25
6	5	Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets	STX	$1,820,364	-60%	-	3,553	$512	$18,827,988	4
7	7	Baby Driver	TriS	$922,117	-49%	-23%	2,503	$368	$85,226,968	27
8	8	Wonder Woman	WB	$730,589	-49%	-17%	1,971	$371	$389,741,896	53
9	9	The Big Sick	LGF	$622,557	-56%	-19%	2,597	$240	$25,170,078	32
10	10	Wish Upon	BG	$393,139	-44%	-43%	2,154	$183	$10,912,417	11
11	11	Cars 3	BV	$377,939	-37%	-18%	1,294	$292	$144,391,201	39
12	12	Transformers: The Last Knight	Par.	$155,888	-57%	-58%	1,025	$152	$127,762,371	34
-	-	Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie	Fox	$73,026	-47%	+48%	291	$251	$71,938,377	53
-	-	47 Meters Down	ENTMP	$66,202	-47%	-64%	449	$147	$42,338,479	39
-	-	The House	WB (NL)	$64,521	-43%	-74%	453	$142	$24,520,790	25
-	-	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2	BV	$55,260	-47%	-30%	268	$206	$387,315,212	81
-	-	Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales	BV	$46,535	-35%	-42%	229	$203	$170,664,282	60
-	-	The Beguiled (2017)	Focus	$41,240	-47%	-65%	331	$125	$10,202,229	32
-	-	The Mummy (2017)	Uni.	$31,970	-53%	-35%	214	$149	$79,433,035	46
-	-	The Boss Baby	Fox	$24,639	-37%	+2%	163	$151	$174,481,618	116
-	-	A Ghost Story	A24	$19,063	-52%	+32%	43	$443	$495,487	18
-	-	Baywatch	Par.	$12,821	-48%	-27%	125	$103	$58,022,263	61
-	-	Alien: Covenant	Fox	$7,707	-61%	-21%	103	$75	$74,092,060	67
-	-	Everything, Everything	WB	$7,145	-46%	-40%	90	$79	$34,099,031	67
-	-	Megan Leavey	BST	$6,655	-51%	-57%	87	$76	$12,825,691	46
-	-	All Eyez on Me	LG/S	$4,504	-50%	-76%	62	$73	$44,829,502	39
-	-	The Exception	A24	$2,940	-47%	-53%	28	$105	$654,843	53
-	-	It Comes At Night	A24	$2,904	-51%	-39%	33	$88	$13,818,780	46

[nomyth]

26 minutes ago, Stutterng baumer Denbrough said:

 

So i should not be allowed to state an opinion?

Let's be real about this one. We're not debating the film's quality. I don't care who does or doesn't like the movie. What I'm debating is the fact that the sole reason people care for this movie is because it's about a gay black man. That is what you and many others assert about this film and, I'm sorry, but I do have to disagree with that assertion. Vehemently.

Edited July 25, 2017 by nomyth

[FantasticBeasts]

I think competition is sometimes overrated. No one can force someone see a movie if not intrested.

I think that competition can influence about 5-10% the final total maximum.

[Barnack]

3 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

I think competition is sometimes overrated. No one can force someone see a movie if not intrested.

I think that competition can influence about 5-10% the final total maximum.

Studies did show that it seem to have a negative affect if you fail at getting award and are perceived as an award player, it is a risk.

 

I don't think it is fair to talk about percentage, maybe a movie like Room made nearly 100% more but that would be just 7 million dbo.

 

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/021116/financial-impact-golden-globes-and-oscars.asp

 

The golden globes has the biggest effect on the domestic box office (by being earlier) in general it would be apparently around 15 million in average if you win, best picture win is clearly a good boost (around 18m).

 

But some category like Best actor historically do nothing for a movie (less than the campaign cost) because those movie already had all the visibility they could have usually.

[fmpro]

Homecoming drops and numbers cought up to Ant-Mans 11th day and if it follows that its on track for around 325 mill.

AM did 71 mill after grossing same number on a monday in late July

[marveldcfox]

31 minutes ago, Bastien said:

The way he said it was not contemptuous.  He wanted, I think, to say that Americans love america, and that this foreign film on foreign characters is not for them.

He got D list american leads and most of the other humans were also americans...what's so foreign about that? Now if he had hired French actors as the leads that would have been Foreign. 

 

He should have either casted A list leads in this 200+ million budget movie OR gone total french with it...maybe that would have made it more authentic and got France more excited. 

[FantasticBeasts]

2 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Studies did show that it seem to have a negative affect if you fail at getting award and are perceived as an award player, it is a risk.

 

I don't think it is fair to talk about percentage, maybe a movie like Room made nearly 100% more but that would be just 7 million dbo.

 

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/021116/financial-impact-golden-globes-and-oscars.asp

 

The golden globes has the biggest effect on the domestic box office (by being earlier) in general it would be apparently around 15 million in average if you win, best picture win is clearly a good boost (around 18m).

 

But some category like Best actor historically do nothing for a movie (less than the campaign cost) because those movie already had all the visibility they could have usually.

I was mainly talking about release schedule and competition from otber films. 

Anyway.. Yet again very insightful comment.

[Barnack]

Just now, FantasticBeasts said:

I was mainly talking about release schedule and competition from otber films. 

Anyway.. Yet again very insightful comment.

A sorry, yes I agree that competition can be overstated sometime (just looking at how well Avatar competition performed did show that you can have a lot of room), in a way competition bring at the same time people in theater that see your movie poster, your movie trailer in the best possible condition, etc... if they liked their experience they can want to come again.

[Fancyarcher]

1 hour ago, cannastop said:

More pretentious? Do you know what that means?

 

It needed more Nolan "philosophical speeches" in it, apparently.

1 hour ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

Undervalued? I don't know anyone that doesn't love it. Great, great flick. Gosling, Hardy and Jake G. get a lot of talk... But, Pine and, especially, Foster are exceptional actors. Ben Foster's pretty much exceptional in everything he's in. Get him a big role. When watching Okja, I just kept wishing it was him instead of Jake G. in that role. And, I like Jake G. by the way.

 

Pine would have been cool in that role. Could have been interesting to see have a high pitched "scummy voice", and for the record I eventually got used to Jake G in that film.

[Barnack]

4 minutes ago, marveldcfox said:

He got D list american leads and most of the other humans were also americans...what's so foreign about that? Now if he had hired French actors as the leads that would have been Foreign. 

 

He should have either casted A list leads in this 200+ million budget movie OR gone total french with it...maybe that would have made it more authentic and got France more excited. 

Delevigne is extremely British and not american, kind of in the royalty there:

 

Her godfather is Condé Nast executive Nicholas Coleridge and her godmother is actress Joan Collins. Delevingne's maternal grandfather was publishing executive and English Heritage chairman Sir Jocelyn Stevens, the nephew of magazine publisher Sir Edward George Warris Hulton and the grandson of newspaper proprietor Sir Edward Hulton, 1st Baronet. Her paternal great-grandfather was the Canadian-born British politician Hamar Greenwood, 1st Viscount Greenwood, and her maternal grandmother Janie Sheffield was lady-in-waiting to Princess Margaret. Through one of her maternal great-great-grandfathers, Sir Lionel Lawson Faudel-Phillips, 3rd Baronet, Delevingne descends from the Anglo-Jewish Faudel-Phillips baronets; two of her ancestors on that line served as Lord Mayor of London

[Maxmoser3]

1 hour ago, AHepBurn said:

I brought this up before, but with Wonder Woman still experiencing ridiculously solid drops and Dunkirk looking really good as well we could be looking at a banner year for Warners domestically. Below are the remaining movies on their schedule:

 

Annabelle: Creation	Warner Bros. (New Line)	8/11/17
It	Warner Bros. (New Line)	9/8/17
Ninjago	Warner Bros.	9/22/17
Blade Runner 2049	Warner Bros.	10/6/17
Geostorm	Warner Bros.	10/20/17
Justice League	Warner Bros.	11/17/17
Bastards (2017)	Warner Bros.	12/22/17

 

Warners just crossed $1 billion and their total stands at $1,017.7. They're already up 9.3% from last year, which was #3 unadjusted all-time for them. With that lineup, I could definitely see them crossing the $2 billion mark for #2 unadjusted all-time and a good shot at #1 all-time should they somehow push past $2,105.7.

Annabelle would debut with $25-$30 million OW, and a domestic total of at least between $55-$65 million domestic total

 

IT as a horror film has had the most talk right next to Kingsman as the big film of September and should do at least $35-$40 million OW, and make $100-$105 million domestic total. 

 

Ninjago may or may not have the level of Hotel Transylvania 1 & 2 but a debut and domestic total around Cloudy With A Chance Meatballs 2 seems more likely.

 

Blade Runner 2049 could go either way in October, but more likely a big fall blockbuster with a debut north of $40 million and a total around $150 million. 

 

Geostorm will die, and be a financial dud stateside but China, and Japan save it from being a huge failure.

 

Justice League will be one of the big 3 films of the Holiday season, and should debut with at least $150-$155 million OW and make $400 million easily.

 

Bastards has long delayed dud written all over it. But it could actually perform like Office Christmas Party or Why Him and still do ok. But it's hard to tell as Christmas weekend is smashed with comedies at this moment.

 

so WB with 4-5 films having a shot over $150 million. Two possible duds. WB should make around $1.8-$2 billion.

Edited July 25, 2017 by Maxmoser3

[grim22]

 

[Valonqar]

1 minute ago, Barnack said:

Delevigne is extremely British and not american, kind of in the royalty there:

 

Her godfather is Condé Nast executive Nicholas Coleridge and her godmother is actress Joan Collins. Delevingne's maternal grandfather was publishing executive and English Heritage chairman Sir Jocelyn Stevens, the nephew of magazine publisher Sir Edward George Warris Hulton and the grandson of newspaper proprietor Sir Edward Hulton, 1st Baronet. Her paternal great-grandfather was the Canadian-born British politician Hamar Greenwood, 1st Viscount Greenwood, and her maternal grandmother Janie Sheffield was lady-in-waiting to Princess Margaret. Through one of her maternal great-great-grandfathers, Sir Lionel Lawson Faudel-Phillips, 3rd Baronet, Delevingne descends from the Anglo-Jewish Faudel-Phillips baronets; two of her ancestors on that line served as Lord Mayor of London

That's quite fancypants. Daisy Ridley is also a Gentry, not as posh as Delvigne but posh compared to American actors and most of the Brits. 

[marveldcfox]

5 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Delevigne is extremely British and not american, kind of in the royalty there:

 

Her godfather is Condé Nast executive Nicholas Coleridge and her godmother is actress Joan Collins. Delevingne's maternal grandfather was publishing executive and English Heritage chairman Sir Jocelyn Stevens, the nephew of magazine publisher Sir Edward George Warris Hulton and the grandson of newspaper proprietor Sir Edward Hulton, 1st Baronet. Her paternal great-grandfather was the Canadian-born British politician Hamar Greenwood, 1st Viscount Greenwood, and her maternal grandmother Janie Sheffield was lady-in-waiting to Princess Margaret. Through one of her maternal great-great-grandfathers, Sir Lionel Lawson Faudel-Phillips, 3rd Baronet, Delevingne descends from the Anglo-Jewish Faudel-Phillips baronets; two of her ancestors on that line served as Lord Mayor of London

jesus christ.

 

Are you related to her?