Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

[ShouldIBeHere]

After seeing it again, I think I will keep my initial 5/10 rating. Was thinking of improving it to 6/10 but too much stuff annoyed me in the end. Plus, no movie that has an entire subplot (casino) I use for doing or thinking about something totally different can really be a good one. 

 

What I really hate about it is how the movie rubbs your nose in how clever it feels to be in some scenes. 

 

What saves it from falling down into prequel-territory is the Rey/Kylo dynamic, as well as the outstanding visuals and production design. 

Edited March 5, 2018 by ShouldIBeHere

[Lordmandeep]

On 3/5/2018 at 10:27 AM, ShouldIBeHere said:

After seeing it again, I think I will keep my initial 5/10 rating. Was thinking of improving it to 6/10 but too much stuff annoyed me in the end. Plus, no movie that has an entire subplot (casino) I use for doing or thinking about something totally different can really be a good one. 

 

What I really hate about it is how the movie rubbs your nose in how clever it feels to be in some scenes. 

 

What saves it from falling down into prequel-territory is the Rey/Kylo dynamic, as well as the outstanding visuals and production design. 

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This movie is a classic example of a small scale direction failing to realize this was supposed to be a wide-appealing uber blockbuster.

 

Sometimes, going the typical route leads to a better movie.

 

One simple fix to this movie for example:

 

Kylo Ren and Rey Fight after the Red Guards in a crazy emotionful duel, Ren has Rey on the Ropes and Holdo Crashes the ship.

Rey Is devasted but is then inspired by the sacrifice of Luke at the end, Ren is a much more interesting menacing character as he has beaten our hero and Episode 9 has some sort of hook going into it.

 

I know its a tad typical but I think the film would have been a far less polarizing reaction with this kind of change. 

 

 

[aabattery]

I am glad Lordmandeep did not write this movie.

[filmlover]

2 hours ago, aabattery said:

I am glad Lordmandeep did not write this movie.

We should be happy that most of his requests and complaints about current day Hollywood fall upon deaf ears.

[Lordmandeep]

20 hours ago, aabattery said:

I am glad Lordmandeep did not write this movie.

 

You willing to bet that version would be badly received?

 

That pretty much diffuses a lot of the major massive deficiencies in Rian Johnson's flawed storytelling  which was the number 1 issue with this film. 

 

Edited March 14, 2018 by Lordmandeep

[CoolioD1]

44 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:

 

You willing to bet that version would be badly received?

 

That pretty much diffuses a lot of the major massive deficiencies in Rian Johnson's flawed storytelling  which was the number 1 issue with this film. 

 

i am definitely willing to bet money that your hypothetical version of the movie that will never exist would not be as well received. howst shall we judge this contest?

[Lordmandeep]

8 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

i am definitely willing to bet money that your hypothetical version of the movie that will never exist would not be as well received. howst shall we judge this contest?

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Go back and time and fire Rian Johnson From TLJ

[DeeCee]

On 15/03/2018 at 7:27 AM, CoolioD1 said:

i am definitely willing to bet money that your hypothetical version of the movie that will never exist would not be as well received. howst shall we judge this contest?

Let’s do this. 

 

https://www.kickstarter.com/

 

Star Wars:The Last LMD

 

[4815162342]

8 hours ago, DeeCee said:

 

Star Wars:The Last LMD

 

 

I see where you're going with this. Getting that crossover cash.

 

Spoiler

 

[Goffe]

On 3/5/2018 at 11:27 AM, ShouldIBeHere said:

What saves it from falling down into prequel-territory is the Rey/Kylo dynamic, as well as the outstanding visuals and production design. 

Pretty much. I did like the movie at first, but now that some time has passed, all I can think of is how unbearably and unnecessarily long it is.

[Avatree]

On 3/5/2018 at 3:27 PM, ShouldIBeHere said:

 

What I really hate about it is how the movie rubbs your nose in how clever it feels to be in some scenes. 

what do you mean? Like hiding explanations and having surprises like the Luke projection? Or what

[James]

Okay, just watched this, and aside from the tragically, horribly borinG lightsaber fights (pleaaaaaase bring back the guys that created the duels in the prequels), I liked this waaaay better tha TFA. I am actually excited for the next one!

 

B+ 

[Goffe]

2 hours ago, James said:

Okay, just watched this, and aside from the tragically, horribly borinG lightsaber fights (pleaaaaaase bring back the guys that created the duels in the prequels), I liked this waaaay better tha TFA. I am actually excited for the next one!

 

B+ 

what?! the throne room fight was the hightest point in the entire movie.

[Jake Gittes]

9 hours ago, Goffe said:

what?! the throne room fight was the hightest point in the entire movie.

It's James.

[MrPink]

Still never gonna get over Kylo's negging after the throne room scene. I quote that all the time, so it's my high point of the movie

[James]

On 3/19/2018 at 5:44 AM, Goffe said:

what?! the throne room fight was the hightest point in the entire movie.

The choreography was so horrendous it hurt to watch.

[BK007]

What is the big deal with Star Wars?

 

Is it just coz it's American?

 

Absolutely nothing to see here and no reason to care about any of the characters and their journeys.

 

The only reason it doesn't feel like Marvel ad nauseum is because Disney haven't sequelized the shit out of it yet- but it's happening.

 

So pointless.

[BK007]

On 12/25/2017 at 11:56 AM, Blankments said:

"Let the past die."

 

Star Wars: The Last Jedi is insane. So much happens in this movie, but it doesn't feel overstuffed. The characters are tested time and time again, and prevail despite desperate odds. The rules of the universe are rewritten in an utterly spectacular sense. In a lot of ways it doesn't feel like Star Wars. Paradoxically, this makes it feel more like Star Wars than Star Wars has been since 1980. It's a shock to the senses, a reminder of when blockbusters took gung-ho risks at the beginning and just kept running until the end.

 

Johnson's direction and script is key to its success. He did not ask what audiences wanted out of a sequel to The Force Awakens. He asked what did the characters need, no matter how frustrating that might be fans. This has already proven to be a divisive film, and you'll discover early on if you're on board with what Johnson is doing or not. If you're not, you'll call it utter sacrilege. If you are, you'll enjoy the most risk-taking installment in all ten Star Wars films. With higher risk comes higher reward.

 

There's a ton more to say about The Last Jedi, but I know I'll revisit this multiple times in theaters, so I'll hold off on talking about other aspects until then. For now, the past Star Wars has died, the one in danger of falling into dull spin-offs and predictable mainline entries for years to come. The new one lives though, one with a clear ending in sight and a promising new story awaiting afterwards. For the first time since Disney purchased Lucasfilm, a truly new hope exists. A

lol

 

find it funny how it's divisive when it's the same movie as every Star Wars film before it.

[Joel M]

Watched it for the 4th time and everytime I like it even more. I thought some flaws might pop up to me after the inital theatrical experience but a random joke not landing here or a plot beat being a plot hole if you really think about it there don't diminish the experiene at all. The movie gets richer with every viewing and everything about it worked for me, even the Canto Bight detour pretty much ties the whole thing  and its themes together. It's also the part that definately gives prequel vibes (if they were directed by someone who still had stories to tell instead of George Lucas 20 years into retirement).

[xanamanax]

Finally got to see this before it leaves theaters and I liked it, but it wasn't great by any means. I loved Rey's side of the story. Her interactions with Luke and especially with Kylo made the film worthwhile to me. Both Rey and Kylo have evolved into fascinating characters. The other side of the story, the rebels escape, left much to be desired. Subpar melodrama with an occasional "huh?" thrown in is not what I'm looking for. Except for Del Toro's character, I did not like the casino excursion. I enjoyed the battle scenes and some of the visuals were spectacular.

 

B