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[Barnack]

1 hour ago, a2knet said:

the entire prod budget and more will be covered by dom theatrical even if it only does 600. 0.55*600 = 330.

Are they not getting almost 65% ?

 

On their face, Walt Disney’s demands on theaters concerning next month’s domestic exhibition of Star Wars: The Last Jedi are not that unusual. As reported by The Wall Street Journal, cinemas accepting the Rian Johnson sequel when it opens on Dec. 14 at 7 p.m. will have to give Disney about 65% of the overall ticket sales and promise to keep the film in its biggest theater(s) for at least four weeks. That compares with 64% of ticket revenue and two weeks of “your best theater” exclusivity” for The Force Awakens two years ago. And unlike previous Star Wars films, this one comes with a penalty (an additional 5%) if theaters get caught breaking any conditions.

 

600 * .65 = 390, that make a big difference between this and the regular studio release getting around 53% (318).

 

If the movie make 700m, that will be a 84m net difference....

 

Even if that movie would end up costing 1 billion in total cost (like a spider man 3 adjusted for inflation) and still be profitable, I would doubt Disney would have spent "only" 200m on it, even if a Harisson Ford less Star Wars save you a lot of money right there, if I am Disney go use 350 to 400m gross, around 275m to 350m net to do a giant, no one will compete with it spectacle, Sony spent 300m net on a Spider Man 3 10 year's ago, would still be really cheap for them on a SW 8 to only match that.

Edited December 16, 2017 by Barnack

[SoSaysI]

4chan has apparently tasked itself with driving down scores on different sites.

[kowhite]

6 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

A 200m OW would be a 25% admissions decrease from TFA's. That is a pretty huge drop off by OW blockbuster sequel standards. That's why the number isn't exciting. 

 

I mean, Empire and Attack had similar drops.  This was my initial expectation.  

[Jonwo]

4 minutes ago, Fancyarcher said:

I'm interested to see what the songs will be like. Will they reference the original or will it mostly be original? I'm assuming the later. As for the composers, I'm skeptical but I like seeing Shaiman doing films so that's cool.

I'm sure the songs will be similar to the Sherman Brothers original but updated for the style of the 1930s. Shaiman and Wittman managed to capture the 60s perfectly for Hairspray so I'm hopeful they can do the same for Poppins.

[grim22]

Watched The Disaster Artist, it downplays how much of a tyrant Wiseau was to make him this well meaning wannabe auteur. Very funny movie even if you haven’t watched The Room.

[kowhite]

4 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Are they not getting almost 65% ?

 

On their face, Walt Disney’s demands on theaters concerning next month’s domestic exhibition of Star Wars: The Last Jedi are not that unusual. As reported by The Wall Street Journal, cinemas accepting the Rian Johnson sequel when it opens on Dec. 14 at 7 p.m. will have to give Disney about 65% of the overall ticket sales and promise to keep the film in its biggest theater(s) for at least four weeks. That compares with 64% of ticket revenue and two weeks of “your best theater” exclusivity” for The Force Awakens two years ago. And unlike previous Star Wars films, this one comes with a penalty (an additional 5%) if theaters get caught breaking any conditions.

 

600 * .65 = 390, that make a big difference between this and the regular studio release getting around 53% (318).

 

If the movie make 700m, that will be a 84m net difference....

 

Even if that movie would end up costing 1 billion in total cost (like a spider man 3 adjusted for inflation) and still be profitable, I would doubt Disney would have spent "only" 200m on it, even if a Harisson Ford less Star Wars save you a lot of money right there, if I am Disney go use 350 to 400m gross, around 275m to 350m net to do a giant, no one will compete with it spectacle, Sony spent 300m net on a Spider Man 3 10 year's ago, would still be really cheap for them on a SW 8 to only match that.

 

I mean, they are spending an additional 200m whatever for P&A.  But whatever, this movie is still gonna make tons of profit no matter if it lands at 600 or 800.  Let’s not pretend Disney was expecting Force Awakens Numbers.

[Fancyarcher]

2 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

I'm sure the songs will be similar to the Sherman Brothers original but updated for the style of the 1930s. Shaiman and Wittman managed to capture the 60s perfectly for Hairspray so I'm hopeful they can do the same for Poppins.

I can only hope so. The songs in Hairspray were pretty good. 

[somebody85]

6 minutes ago, SoSaysI said:

4chan has apparently tasked itself with driving down scores on different sites.

Shocker. Ghostbusters all over again. Except the writers/director/studio didn't insult the fans. It's not deserved.

[grey ghost]

10 minutes ago, SoSaysI said:

4chan has apparently tasked itself with driving down scores on different sites.

Alt right reasons or fanboy reasons?

[Poseidon]

Seriously, is the whole world depressed right now? It's Star Wars weekend and this topic added like 8 pages in the last 3 hours. 

[MovieMan89]

30 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

Well, im not bored by 200 Fucking Million Dollars on one weekend! SW just keeps crushing everything in its path.

That's true, John Cena was stiff competition. 

[baumer]

I think with the massive box office of TFA, we got a little spoiled.  For this to open to around 100 million OD is quite awesome.  And if it does hit 200 OW, which I think it will, then it will only be the 4th film to do so and the first "second" part of a trilogy to do so (please don't remind me that it's a SW sequel, I obviously know that).  So for it to do 200 million and probably at least 660 million is really quite bonkers.  I think this film is divisive enough that it will affect repeat viewings.  For example, I spent about $150.00 on TFA.  That will be down to $30.00 this time.  But 650-700 million is awesome (obviously).  It will more likely end up as number three of all time domestically.  So it's a great number for sure, and if it does hit 660, that's about a 30% drop from TLJ, which is quite good.

[SpiritComix]

LOL

 

 

Star Wars Reddit right now pic.twitter.com/EQV8PMt5fW

— Prequel Memes (@PrequelMemesBot) December 16, 2017

[robertman2]

11 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

Alt right reasons or fanboy reasons?

Probably both

[SpiritComix]

Oh man, can't wait to see the episode IX opening weekend...

 

 

735 days until #IX. pic.twitter.com/Rq96mABqhK

— Star Wars Legacy (@theswlegacy) December 15, 2017

just kidding, haha

Edited December 16, 2017 by SpiritComix

[cannastop]

7 minutes ago, Christmas baumer said:

It will more likely end up as number three of all time domestically.

It might warm your heart to think that TLJ could be 4th or 5th domestically.

[Poseidon]

9 minutes ago, Christmas baumer said:

I think with the massive box office of TFA, we got a little spoiled.  For this to open to around 100 million OD is quite awesome.  And if it does hit 200 OW, which I think it will, then it will only be the 4th film to do so and the first "second" part of a trilogy to do so (please don't remind me that it's a SW sequel, I obviously know that).  So for it to do 200 million and probably at least 660 million is really quite bonkers.  I think this film is divisive enough that it will affect repeat viewings.  For example, I spent about $150.00 on TFA.  That will be down to $30.00 this time.  But 650-700 million is awesome (obviously).  It will more likely end up as number three of all time domestically.  So it's a great number for sure, and if it does hit 660, that's about a 30% drop from TLJ, which is quite good.

 

SW7 was more of a general feeling, rather than a movie. TLJ is "just" a huge movie. 

[Porthos]

29 minutes ago, SoSaysI said:

4chan has apparently tasked itself with driving down scores on different sites.

[MovieMan89]

I think my favorite part of all of TFA's run was RTH giving us those first Monday numbers. Had an insane 50% gross increase over the previous Monday record and it wasn't even a Holiday. 

[TwoMisfits]

Since it was already so booked, none of my locals (or mall) added any extra showings today yet...mall is ending showings at 1am and locals are ending at 11:30pm (this one is at a shopping center that will be open 24 hours for Christmas shopping, so I'm surprised) and 12:01am...almost all their showings are pretty much sell outs except the post 11pm ones, so maybe less than 2 hours out, they figure that's enough for walk up stragglers...