redfirebird2008 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Porthos said: ??? How did it open 10 less than TFA? Preview was 12 under. OD was 15 under OW was 27 under. Don't get me wrong, this isn't lighting the world on fire. But even 688 was plausible given recent trends of Cultural Phenomenon ==> Sequel. I think he meant 10%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasNicole Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, cannastop said: There were drops on Wednesday because Tuesday is a popular day to go to the movies due to discounts. Hope they have good numbers this weekend and great numbers next week I really want $ 150M for Wonder and $ 200M for Coco, haha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porthos Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I've said it all along, but I think Solo will be the true tell. If it somehow gets more than 450 (which I DO NOT expect), I think SW is unsinkable as a brand for a good long while in the domestic market. Hell, if Solo gets more than 375, I think it is clear sailing for years and years (where clear sailing = near lock at 300m for side films and 600m for 'episodes'). It's only at 325 for it where it becomes a little dicey and sub-300 where the conversations perhaps start happening behind the scenes. Maybe. Who the heck really knows what happens and why in Tinsel Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Binoche Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Of course less and less people will give a fuck about Star Wars as Disney shits out a new one every year. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porthos Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Christmas baumer said: 10% less, typo. Ah, no worries. Well in that case, 700m sure isn't a disappointment to me. Anything over 650m isn't all things considered, no matter how it gets there. But that's because I've been thinking about a floor of around 630 or so all along. And I have a couple of years of posts to back me up on this. Edited December 22, 2017 by Porthos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GambitPool Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, That One Guy said: Downsizing was awful. I got a hold of some script reviews and summaries a couple years back. The reviews were mixed-negative then. I figured Payne would fix the 3rd act issues before filming, but he kept it the same.I'm really disappointed as Payne's one of my favorite current directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Gold Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, La Binoche said: Of course less and less people will give a fuck about Star Wars as Disney shits out a new one every year. Just like Marvel movies... oh... wait... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Rogue one is the best comparison for TLJ to me, I cant rely on the data from 11 years ago, and which had much muCH lower gross than TLJ And since x mas eve also fall on RO's 2nd weekend and Monday being the "x mas" replacement, RO is a closet that we have , looking from that,65% drop is totally possible, and Sunday to monday jump won't hit 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, La Binoche said: Of course less and less people will give a fuck about Star Wars as Disney shits out a new one every year. It's ridiculous. Star Wars isn't Marvel: all these Star Wars Movies look exactly the same as the others. Same characters. Same costumes. Same weapons. Same villain. They need to either slow down or change shit drastically. I still ain't bothered enough to see this new one yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Yeah, i liked Rogue One, but they maybe should've waited till VII-IX finished to start with the spinoffs. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, lancelot123 said: Just like Marvel movies... oh... wait... well the buzz around a new star wars movie was not similar to the buzz around a non avengers Marvel movies, different scale completely, at least in the USA and some markets. It will go down from the most talked movie of the year, biggest box office of the year (often record breaking), absolute everywhere for months that was A new hope/Phantom Menace/Force Awaken to yes just like Marvel movies. Edited December 22, 2017 by Barnack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 hours ago, cannastop said: I'd say from $62m to $67m. If that happens then there won't be much of a difference between the 2nd weekend of a $155M opener and a $220M opener. There's no spinning that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JB33 said: If that happens then there won't be much of a difference between the 2nd weekend of a $155M opener and a $220M opener. There's no spinning that. except that the meat of holiday revenue is pushed back for sw8 and the 3rd weekend fss should stay flat instead of dropping to 50 like with rogue one. not to mention stronger mon-thu next week and stronger new year's monday. so this weekend's fss being similar or only 5 odd higher than rogue one belies the holiday schedule. will accept that it's gonna find it tough to match rogue one's 3.4x. thinking 3.2x right now. Edited December 22, 2017 by a2knet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 With Disney acquiring the Avatar franchise perhaps they might put the breaks on an annual release schedule for Star Wars and instead have one every two years in December with the Avatar sequels in between. Honestly I think Marvel is unique with their ability to release multiple instalments. Plus with the MCU you have separate franchises running at the same time with the gap between say a Captain America film and another Cap film being 2 years minimum. Star Wars right now is just the saga films and a bunch of spin-off films that have no relation with one another. It's much harder to get people excited for the spin-offs when they're each self contained stories with no link. The Rian Johnson trilogy idea is a very good one though Disney is probably a little more wary depending on how TLJ does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, a2knet said: except that the meat of holiday revenue is pushed back for sw8 and the 3rd weekend fss should stay flat instead of dropping to 50 like with rogue one. not to mention stronger mon-thu next week and stronger new year's monday. so this weekend's fss being similar or only 5 odd higher than rogue one belies the holiday schedule. will accept that it's gonna find it tough to match rogue one's 3.4x. thinking 3.2x right now. Isn't that rogue obe 3rd weekend fall was 22.5%? TLJ should be able to pull the same drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Moderation: Keep TLJ spoilers to the spoiler thread, please. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, JB33 said: If that happens then there won't be much of a difference between the 2nd weekend of a $155M opener and a $220M opener. There's no spinning that. I agree...it's like how BvS couldn't spin its awful legs, even though it had an enormous opening and still made good money (3.5x production budget)... If one weekend brings the 2 movies to the same 2nd weekend number, even with Xmas Eve, that's so not good... If it's under Rogue One...well... Here's hoping the weekend's not that bad and much, much better... PS - One extra worry I have is that theaters have no incentive to sell this if they have better product, since they retain 10% less in ticket sales...one of my locals is slowly removing any showings it can if it has anything better...28 last weekend to 21 through Tuesday to 18 from Wed through Saturday to 13/14/15 come Sunday-Thursday...that's 1/2 the showings gone in 9 days from original opening weekend... Edited December 22, 2017 by TwoMisfits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) All the Money in the World has already sold 21 tickets for Monday here It'd be incredible if its OD managed to outgross several of Father Figures' days Edited December 22, 2017 by WrathOfHan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, AJG said: It's ridiculous. Star Wars isn't Marvel: all these Star Wars Movies look exactly the same as the others. Same characters. Same costumes. Same weapons. Same villain. Well the prequels tried something different, but then Disney and JJ copied everything from the old movies for the sequels - including the 70's costumes and spaceships with old timey technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, AJG said: It's ridiculous. Star Wars isn't Marvel: all these Star Wars Movies look exactly the same as the others. Same characters. Same costumes. Same weapons. Same villain. They need to either slow down or change shit drastically. I still ain't bothered enough to see this new one yet. So the same as Marvel. All the marvel movies look the same. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
