4-day Weekend Thread: 5-day numbers per BOM - TLJ 99.0M, J:WTTJ 55.4M, PP3 26.4M, TGS 14.4M, F 10.1M, C 8.2M, D 7.7M and an incredible $5,480,000 for Father Figures

[cannastop]

10 minutes ago, Elessar said:

Better Christmas Eve drop just means a worse Christmas Day increase...

Only if you don't use the Force.

[Mojoguy]

Better Christmas Eve drop just means a worse Christmas Day increase...

Or it means an even bigger Christmas Day increase.

Edited December 25, 2017 by Mojoguy

[WrathOfHan]

Theater update:

 

Spoiler

 

Star Wars: 

 

9:00 3D: 31/78

10:00: 43/78

11:00: 89/124

12:30 3D: 46/78

1:30: 69/78

2:30 3D: 38/124

4:00 3D: 32/78

5:00: 50/78

6:15: 82/124 

7:30 3D: 24/78 

8:30: 30/78

9:45 3D: 0/124

10:30 3D: 0/113

 

Jumanji:

 

10:45: 62/78

11:00: 44/60

1:45 3D: 44/78

4:45: 64/78

6:50: 43/60 

7:45 3D: 6/78

9:45: 13/60

10:45: 0/78

 

Showman:

 

9:20: 34/113

12:00: 50/113 

2:35: 60/113

5:10: 9/113

7:50: 4/113

11:00: 0/78

 

Money:

 

9:45: 13/78

12:55: 40/78 

4:05: 13/78

7:10: 3/78

10:20: 0/78

 

Ferdinand:

 

10:15: 16/69

1:05 3D: 9/69

3:50: 12/69

6:35 3D: 0/69

9:15: 0/69

 

PP3:

 

11:30: 13/78

2:00: 9/78

4:30: 3/78

7:00: 0/78

9:30: 0/78

 

DH2:

 

10:30: 4/63

4:05: 17/63

9:35: 0/63

 

Downsizing:

 

9:30: 2/78

12:35: 12/78

3:40: 8/78

6:50: 0/78

10:00: 0/78

 

FF:

 

10:15: 4/67

1:00: 4/67

3:45: 13/67

6:30: 0/67

9:15: 0/67

 

Thor:

 

1:05: 12/63

6:35: 0/63

 

Coco:

 

9:00: 4/78

1:50: 4/60

4:20: 0/60

 

Star Wars: 534/1,233 (Up 49)

Jumanji: 276/570 (Up 36)

Showman: 157/643 (Up 31)

Money: 69/390 (Up 7)

Ferdinand: 37/345 (Up 2)

PP3: 25/390 (Up 4)

Downsizing: 22/390 (Up 4)

DH2: 21/189 (Up 2)

FF: 21/335 (Up 4)

Thor: 12/126 (Up 10)

Coco: 8/198 (Up 8)

 

Money hasn't moved that much since last night. Comps (OD):

 

50% of Dunkirk (9.9M)

65% of Kingsman (10.6M)

70% of OE (7.5M)

105% of AA (6.1M)

115% of THB (9.2M)

145% of AM (9M)

220% of Foreigner (10.6M)

350% of TYFYS (5.3M)

Edited December 25, 2017 by WrathOfHan

[estebanJ]

15 hours ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

That's debatable. It's more than likely gonna match 200M DOM, and that would put it around Ratatouille and close to Wall-E and Brave (all unadjusted). So it is in line with other Pixar movies... yeah, it's a bit of a stretch to discard inflation, but still, numbers don't lie. Fair enough, for its budget, it's not a great DOM result, but again, for a Pixar film with virtually non-existent marketing and very low hype - and the only real precedent for that, or at least the most recent one, being The Good Dinosaur - it is doing far better than its "predecessor".

 

And again, Pixar or not, the expectations were justifiably really low, so the movie is doing far better than everyone thought it was going to. Cars 3 was a Pixar movie too, and look how that went (and it was directly following Finding Dory). For Pixar standards, it might not be a great US result, but for the very low expectations, it is doing much stronger than everyone was prepared to give it credit for.

 

 

Lots of hemming and hawing in that response, and i sympathize, because IMO the numbers say CoCo is listlessly schlepping its way through the 160s right now, basically running on the fumes of the boost all films naturally get from the Christmas/New Years nexus. 

 

To me, Pixar doesn't spend $175 - $200m on production alone to release a film that is going to perform this way in the USA. Beyond, I don't consider Good Dinosaur to be any more a benchmark than Dory, because Dory was guaranteed massive box office off the Nemo glow alone, while GD is an epic flop, and I never said CoCo was an epic DOM flop. Cars 3? That's maybe the one exception to my first statement, as the Cars franchise is more about merchandising so that film was more an advertisement for the merch than anything else. 

 

Who knows? Maybe CoCo will just keep schlepping $10m a week for the next two months an end up near say Moana's gross (IMO, the best benchmark), and if so, I'll come back here and eat my hat. 

Edited December 25, 2017 by estebanJ

[Barnack]

2 hours ago, filmlover said:

Dwayne Johnson, his power (aside from Baywatch but then there was no saving that movie).

A bit of under estimating Kevin Hart domestic in the conversation about Jumanji.

 

Kevin Hart did more with Ride Along than with Central Intelligence and chunck out 90m or more domestic title without much effort (not much quality, spectacle, franchise, etc... needed) and can open himself all alone on stage over 10m.

 

Not sure Johnson is proven to be a bigger domestic draw than Hart in a comedy at this point.

Edited December 25, 2017 by Barnack

[junkshop36]

Fantastic numbers for TLJ and Jumanji. 

 

Monday and Tuesday are gonna be quite nice as well. 

[TwoMisfits]

On the Xmas jump (since I called the better Sunday)...I'd be conservative on the jump...lots of theaters are opening at 12pm, so missing the 9am/10am shows which have been PACKED.  That hurts.  They are adding back the 10pm and later shows (ie - the expensive ones vs 10am ones), but they haven't sold nearly as well.  Now, every show today til the 10pms and later will be mobbed, but missing the sold out 10ams is still gonna have an effect.

 

And too bad tomorrow is cheap Tuesday, b/c that will also be mobbed all day, but at lower ticket prices.

 

 

[The Fast and the Furiosa]

3 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

On the Xmas jump (since I called the better Sunday)...I'd be conservative on the jump...lots of theaters are opening at 12pm, so missing the 9am/10am shows which have been PACKED.  That hurts.  They are adding back the 10pm and later shows (ie - the expensive ones vs 10am ones), but they haven't sold nearly as well.  Now, every show today til the 10pms and later will be mobbed, but missing the sold out 10ams is still gonna have an effect.

 

And too bad tomorrow is cheap Tuesday, b/c that will also be mobbed all day, but at lower ticket prices.

 

 

Do you remember if your theater had the 10 am shows in previous years? I only really see a difference if scheduling has become different than the norm

[mahnamahna]

Jumanji

9 ($37.5 million 3-day)

18.3 ($55.8 million 4-day/$72.6 million running total) 

19.1 

14.6

14.8 ($121.1 million 9-day) 

16.4

17.1

9.6 ($43.1 million 3-day)

13.4 ($56.5 million 4-day/$177.6 million running total)

 

$22.5 million ($210 million)

$12 million/$16.5 million ($231 million)

$7 million ($240 million)

$4 million ($246 million)

$2 million ($249 million)

$254 million DOM 

 

 Of course, it could hit $20-20.5 million for today and tomorrow, remaining around $15-16 million for Wed-Thurs, then $17-19 million for Fri-Sat and $10-11 million on Sun. In which case, $275 million+ DOM might be in play. 

Edited December 25, 2017 by mahnamahna

[TwoMisfits]

4 minutes ago, The Fast and the Furiosa said:

Do you remember if your theater had the 10 am shows in previous years? I only really see a difference if scheduling has become different than the norm

I admit...I don't...right now, my area is 50/50 on keeping/losing those 10am shows...

 

But each movie is also different...I can't remember the last non-animated blockbuster that sells out 10ams (even at non discounts) that doesn't at 10pms...usually it's always reversed:)...

 

I mean, tonight, my 10pms and later in the area (some theaters have 4 shows of their 13-15 in that time frame) have still sold woeful ticket counts, even on Christmas...but the 9:40am non-discounted show (at the open local) virtually sold out last night (I didn't get it preshow b/c we were opening presents!)...

Edited December 25, 2017 by TwoMisfits

[The Panda]

5 hours ago, The Greatest Rth said:

17.4

Wow!  That's a really good drop!  I wonder how Christmas Day increase will be.

[FantasticBeasts]

Merry Christmas to everyone! I wish the best for you and your families.

 

 

The drop for TLJ is surprisingly good. I will be the first one to admit I was wrong If I end up being but I guess we will have to wait a week more at least.

Also, Jumanji is doing veerryyyy good. I am genuinely surprised. Rock's powahhh...

[JB33]

Merry Christmas to you all! 

 

Nice to wake up to that number for TLJ. A $39M Christmas Day is in play.

[StarWarsBGFan]

5 minutes ago, JB33 said:

Merry Christmas to you all! 

 

Nice to wake up to that number for TLJ. A $39M Christmas Day is in play.

That would be insane! And awesome!

[Ryan Reynolds]

That looked like a good drop for TLJ until i saw its higher than Rogue One. Shockingly Disney gave a Christmas Eve estimate under Rogue One's Christmas Eve.

[That One Girl]

5 hours ago, Brainbug said:

 

 

[The Panda]

2 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

That looked like a good drop for TLJ until i saw its higher than Rogue One. Shockingly Disney gave a Christmas Eve estimate under Rogue One's Christmas Eve.

It's crazy how Christmas Eve Sundays (with  football and church services) would be harsher drops than Christmas Eve saturdays!

[titanic2187]

6 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

That looked like a good drop for TLJ until i saw its higher than Rogue One. Shockingly Disney gave a Christmas Eve estimate under Rogue One's Christmas Eve.

what disney gave was totally understandable, maybe we are too obsessed with calendar effect and keep comparing to the films which were from 11 years ago, without considering the structural behaviour change among moviegoers. The hold seems to be come in significantly higher than initial estimate across the board, jumanji sunday's number is 35% higher than estimate, again, we all can throw that 2006 comparison to the far far away of the galaxy.....

 

This is not going to go the way you think

Edited December 25, 2017 by titanic2187

[a2k]

increase in Sunday takes Jumanji 5-day to 53m. Needs 'only' 17 on Monday after 9 no Sunday (less than 100% bump) for 70 6-day.

Sing dom = 3.58x the 75.5 6-day. Same gives Jumanji 251.

[TwoMisfits]

Merry Christmas, everyone!:)  Whether you celebrate or not, I hope you enjoy a peaceful and happy day with family, friends, fun, food, and football (go Eagles!:).