Weekend Thread | Estimates per BOM ~ BP 65.7M, RS 17M, DW 13M, GN 10.7M, PR 10M, ANL 5.65M, J:WTTJ 4.5M, FSF 3.3M, TGS 2.68M

[Noctis]

Anne Hathaway's performance in TDKR as Selina Kyle is still by far the best female superhero performance ever...with the exception of Michelle Pfeiffer. Interesting that the best two came from the same character. ALSO...Wonder Woman.

 

Gadot, Hathaway, and Pfeiffer absolutely rule the superhero genre in terms of female performances.

[Avatree]

2 hours ago, WrathOfHan said:

I think Searchlight's 2018 slate could top the ~170M from last year's releases:

 

Can You Ever Forgive Me?: 80M

The Old Man and the Gun: 50M

The Favourite: 40M

Isle of Dogs: 35M

The Aftermath: 15M

Tolkien: 10M

Total: 230M

You've forgotten Super Troopers 2 coming out in a few weeks   

 

I think you're being a bit optimistic with some of those predictions though. Like the Favourite? I dont know what its about but Yorgos Lanthimos movies have made 9M, 2.3M, and 0.1M. 40M seems a little high....

[meriodejaneiro]

4 minutes ago, ROCKnROLLA said:

Any info on the BP Japan OW totals yet?

Something around 4.2M ow (¥425M). Straight to the 9th biggest super hero ow ever in Japan (pretty good for a country where super hero movies are not a big thing except for Spider Man)

[Avatree]

2 minutes ago, Noctis said:

Anne Hathaway's performance in TDKR as Selina Kyle is still by far the best female superhero performance ever...with the exception of Michelle Pfeiffer. Interesting that the best two came from the same character. ALSO...Wonder Woman.

 

Gadot, Hathaway, and Pfeiffer absolutely rule the superhero genre in terms of female performances.

Can you even like, name any other female superheroes. It's not exactly a hard contest to win.

[KP1025]

14 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said:

Something around 4.2M ow (¥425M). Straight to the 9th biggest super hero ow ever in Japan (pretty good for a country where super hero movies are not a big thing except for Spider Man)

That is the 3-day number, whereas Japanese trades (and Corpse) report weekend figures as Sat+Sun only. Based on the estimated 2-day opening of ¥275,000,000, Black Panther is tentatively the #21 biggest opening weekend a for Marvel/DC film in Japan.

Edited March 4, 2018 by KP1025

[trifle]

1 hour ago, HesAPooka said:

Would give it a total of 155-175 or a multiplier of 2.2-2.5. If this was Joy or something else original I'd say that's strong, but for something based on a popular book with a built in audience that's pretty mediocre/weak.

It isn't popular in the sense that Twilight, Harry Potter or The Hunger Games were popular, and certainly not overseas.

 

I am still hoping it will open in China with editing, as Logan did.  We'll see.  I was about to say that the number 1 opening in Taiwan might bode well for China, but actually I don't know if Taiwan's market is anything like China's in what they like.  It opened number 1 in Italy and Spain, as well, and number 2 in Germany.  Box office draw isn't only a domestic issue.

Edited March 4, 2018 by trifle

[LaughingEvans]

43 minutes ago, Noctis said:

Anne Hathaway's performance in TDKR as Selina Kyle is still by far the best female superhero performance ever...with the exception of Michelle Pfeiffer. Interesting that the best two came from the same character. ALSO...Wonder Woman.

 

Gadot, Hathaway, and Pfeiffer absolutely rule the superhero genre in terms of female performances.

 

Rubbish. Pfeiffer is the top, Romjin's Mistique* comes second.
 

Gadot's acting abilties are laughable, she's easily the worst superstar actress in recent years.

 

 

*Not really a superhero, but then again Catwoman is not a superhero either.

[MCKillswitch123]

47 minutes ago, Treeing Me Apart said:

Can you even like, name any other female superheroes. It's not exactly a hard contest to win.

Black Widow? I mean, ScarJo has to be up there, too. Gadot is #1 for me, though.

 

Also, not movies, but I like Melissa Benoist as Supergirl and Krysten Ritter as Jessica Jones a lot too.

[KJsooner]

14 minutes ago, LaughingEvans said:

 

Rubbish. Pfeiffer is the top, Romjin's Mistique* comes second.
 

Gadot's acting abilties are laughable, she's easily the worst superstar actress in recent years.

 

 

*Not really a superhero, but then again Catwoman is not a superhero either.

 

[Wadey Wilsoney]

1 hour ago, KJsooner said:

BP has double the gross of JL.

 

If only mredman was still here to regale us with his wisdom.

[LaughingEvans]

1 minute ago, KJsooner said:

 

 

Any gif/video with her trying to act only proves me right, thanks.

[iHeartJames]

I thought Gal Gadot did a fine job in Wonder Woman but there’s that one scene in the movie when she leaves the meeting with Steve and she’s freaking out by the stairs and her acting was just so terrible to me.

[KJsooner]

3 minutes ago, LaughingEvans said:

 

Any gif/video with her trying to act only proves me right, thanks.

That you John Campea??

[TalismanRing]

17 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

Black Widow? I mean, ScarJo has to be up there, too. Gadot is #1 for me, though.

 

Also, not movies, but I like Melissa Benoist as Supergirl and Krysten Ritter as Jessica Jones a lot too.

Yes on Scarlet (particularly in TWS) and Ritter.  

 

We also just had Danai and Luipta in BP who were both excellent (actually my two favorites in the movie) and the fun Tessa Thompson performance in Thor. 

[LaughingEvans]

6 minutes ago, KJsooner said:

That you John Campea??

 

Hey can we disagree without heavy insults please?

 

Video related and reminder that Gal cannot even say Kal El to further prove my point

 

 

[meriodejaneiro]

1 hour ago, KP1025 said:

That is the 3-day number, whereas Japanese trades (and Corpse) report weekend figures as Sat+Sun only. Based on the estimated 2-day opening of ¥275,000,000, Black Panther is tentatively the #21 biggest opening weekend a for Marvel/DC film in Japan.

True. 

But when he reports the list of top we openers, he includes the thu-fri numbers. 

And he says BP is gonna open higher than any 2017 superhero film but SM:HC, that's above DS (#11 in that list) with 4.2 and ¥425-430M. Probably over TASM2 too. 

 

Marvel/DC - Biggest Opening Weekends

¥1.226 billion ($9.6 million) - Spider-Man (2002)
¥1.207 billion ($10.1 million) - Spider-Man 3 (2007)
¥1.084 billion ($10.0 million) - Spider-Man 2 (2004)
¥793.9 million ($6.5 million) - Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
¥580.9 million ($7.4 million) - The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
¥500.9 million ($6.3 million) - The Avengers (2012)
¥448.8 million ($4.2 million) - Captain America: Civil War (2016) 
¥448.5 million ($4.1 million) - Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
¥420.3 million ($4.1 million) - The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
¥414.7 million ($4.3 million) - Iron Man 3 (2013)
¥394.1 million ($3.4 million) - Doctor Strange (2017)
¥390.1 million ($3.8 million) - Suicide Squad (2016)
¥383.3 million ($3.6 million) - Deadpool (2016)
¥372.0 million ($4.6 million) - The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
¥371.3 million ($3.3 million) - Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
¥368.9 million ($3.4 million) - Superman Returns (2006)
¥361.9 million ($3.1 million) - X2: X-Men United (2003)
¥333.2 million ($3.1 million) - The Dark Knight (2008)
¥290.2 million ($2.7 million) - Batman Begins (2005)
¥276.6 million ($2.4 million) - X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
¥272.5 million ($2.7 million) - X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014)
¥268.3 million ($2.8 million) - Man of Steel (2013)
¥266.5 million ($2.4 million) - Wonder Woman (2017)
¥264.6 million ($2.9 million) - Iron Man 2 (2010)
¥249.4 million ($2.2 million) - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017)
¥247.5 million ($2.1 million) - Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)
¥230.6 million ($2.0 million) - Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
¥224.1 million ($2.1 million) - Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
¥211.7 million ($2.0 million) - Iron Man (2008)
¥204.7 million ($1.9 million) - Fantastic Four (2005)
¥204.4 million ($1.8 million) - Justice League (2017)
¥200.4 million ($1.7 million) - Ant-Man (2015)
¥198.4 million ($1.9 million) - Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
¥194.3 million ($1.6 million) - Daredevil (2003)
¥187.1 million ($1.8 million) - Thor: The Dark World (2014)
¥184.3 million ($1.9 million) - The Wolverine (2013)
¥176.8 million ($1.9 million) - X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
¥163.3 million ($1.4 million) - Logan (2017)
¥160.9 million ($1.4 million) - Hulk (2003)
¥158.5 million ($1.9 million) - X-Men: First Class (2011)
¥153.1 million ($1.5 million) - X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)
¥129.9 million ($1.6 million) - Thor (2011)
¥109.7 million ($1.2 million) - Watchmen (2009)
¥88.3 million ($1.1 million) - Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
¥65.1 million ($0.6 million) - Catwoman (2004)
¥42.6 million ($0.6 million) - The Green Lantern (2011)
¥41.5 million ($0.4 million) - The Incredible Hulk (2008)

Edited March 4, 2018 by meriodejaneiro
courtesy of @Corpse

[HouseOfTheSun]

1 hour ago, KJsooner said:

Just fucking unbelievable what BP is doing. People last summer were all like WW’s record is going to stand for a long time, and here BP ran over it like it was nothing in 2 weeks. Cant believe it blew right past AOU, CW, and TDKR too.

[AJG]

8 minutes ago, LaughingEvans said:

 

Hey can we disagree without heavy insults please?

 

Video related and reminder that Gal cannot even say Kal El to further prove my point

 

 

 

[KP1025]

5 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said:

True. 

But when he reports the list of top we openers, he includes the thu-fri numbers. 

And he says BP is gonna open higher than any 2017 superhero film but SM:HC, that's above DS (#11 in that list) with 4.2 and ¥425-430M. Probably over TASM2 too. 

 

Marvel/DC - Biggest Opening Weekends

¥1.226 billion ($9.6 million) - Spider-Man (2002)
¥1.207 billion ($10.1 million) - Spider-Man 3 (2007)
¥1.084 billion ($10.0 million) - Spider-Man 2 (2004)
¥793.9 million ($6.5 million) - Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
¥580.9 million ($7.4 million) - The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
¥500.9 million ($6.3 million) - The Avengers (2012)
¥448.8 million ($4.2 million) - Captain America: Civil War (2016) 
¥448.5 million ($4.1 million) - Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
¥420.3 million ($4.1 million) - The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
¥414.7 million ($4.3 million) - Iron Man 3 (2013)
¥394.1 million ($3.4 million) - Doctor Strange (2017)
¥390.1 million ($3.8 million) - Suicide Squad (2016)
¥383.3 million ($3.6 million) - Deadpool (2016)
¥372.0 million ($4.6 million) - The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
¥371.3 million ($3.3 million) - Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
¥368.9 million ($3.4 million) - Superman Returns (2006)
¥361.9 million ($3.1 million) - X2: X-Men United (2003)
¥333.2 million ($3.1 million) - The Dark Knight (2008)
¥290.2 million ($2.7 million) - Batman Begins (2005)
¥276.6 million ($2.4 million) - X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
¥272.5 million ($2.7 million) - X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014)
¥268.3 million ($2.8 million) - Man of Steel (2013)
¥266.5 million ($2.4 million) - Wonder Woman (2017)
¥264.6 million ($2.9 million) - Iron Man 2 (2010)
¥249.4 million ($2.2 million) - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017)
¥247.5 million ($2.1 million) - Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)
¥230.6 million ($2.0 million) - Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
¥224.1 million ($2.1 million) - Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
¥211.7 million ($2.0 million) - Iron Man (2008)
¥204.7 million ($1.9 million) - Fantastic Four (2005)
¥204.4 million ($1.8 million) - Justice League (2017)
¥200.4 million ($1.7 million) - Ant-Man (2015)
¥198.4 million ($1.9 million) - Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
¥194.3 million ($1.6 million) - Daredevil (2003)
¥187.1 million ($1.8 million) - Thor: The Dark World (2014)
¥184.3 million ($1.9 million) - The Wolverine (2013)
¥176.8 million ($1.9 million) - X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
¥163.3 million ($1.4 million) - Logan (2017)
¥160.9 million ($1.4 million) - Hulk (2003)
¥158.5 million ($1.9 million) - X-Men: First Class (2011)
¥153.1 million ($1.5 million) - X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)
¥129.9 million ($1.6 million) - Thor (2011)
¥109.7 million ($1.2 million) - Watchmen (2009)
¥88.3 million ($1.1 million) - Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
¥65.1 million ($0.6 million) - Catwoman (2004)
¥42.6 million ($0.6 million) - The Green Lantern (2011)
¥41.5 million ($0.4 million) - The Incredible Hulk (2008)

I went and double checked, and those figures in the list are actually 2-day reported numbers. Here is Wonder Woman's report from last August.

 

Weekend Actuals (08/26-27)
01 (---) ¥395,870,100 ($3.6 million), 0, ¥395,870,100 ($3.6 million), Sekigahara (Toho) NEW
02 (---) ¥266,512,000 ($2.4 million), 0, ¥370,245,700 ($3.4 million), Wonder Woman (Warner Bros.) NEW
03 (03) ¥231,030,300 ($2.1 million), -16%, ¥6,202,843,700 ($56.4 million), Despicable Me 3 (Toho-Towa) WK6
04 (02) ¥156,869,600 ($1.4 million), -47%, ¥913,649,100 ($8.3 million), Fireworks, Should We See It from the Side or the Bottom? (Toho) WK2
05 (04) ¥140,689,300 ($1.3 million), -44%, ¥2,260,122,800 ($20.6 million), Spider-Man: Homecoming (Sony) WK3
06 (05) ¥125,191,100 ($1.1 million), -23%, ¥2,577,371,200 ($23.4 million), I Want To Eat Your Pancreas (Toho) WK5
07 (01) ¥120,256,500 ($1.1 million), -66%, ¥759,181,800 ($6.9 million), High & Low 2: End of Sky (Shochiku) WK2
08 (07) ¥70,576,500 ($646,000), -29%, ¥3,184,546,100 ($29.1 million), Pokemon: I Choose You! (Toho) WK7
09 (09) ¥55,098,800 ($505,000), -25%, ¥3,022,973,500 ($27.6 million), Mary and the Witch's Flower (Toho) WK8
10 (08) ¥53,153,600 ($487,000), -36%, ¥3,638,393,900 ($33.7 million), Gintama (Warner Bros.) WK7
 

Corpse also says this about Black Panther's opening:

 

"If it earns exactly what I'm predicting over the weekend, it still wouldn't be enough to crack the Top 20 Opening Weekends for Marvel/DC films, and achieving the 18th biggest opening for Marvel/DC films is probably its ceiling as well."

[AJG]

1 hour ago, KJsooner said:

Just fucking unbelievable what BP is doing. People last summer were all like WW’s record is going to stand for a long time, and here BP ran over it like it was nothing in 2 weeks. Cant believe it blew right past AOU, CW, and TDKR too.

 

Americans talking about Wonder Woman online last year was the strangest thing for me in the UK.

The film made less than Logan over here, and I remember the reaction being more on the “yeah, that was alright” side of things.