Weekend Box Office: Actuals (Page 55): BP $26.6M TR $23.7M ICOI $17.1M AWIT $16.3M LS $11.8M, PR crosses $100M, Jumanji crosses $400M

[Goffe]

4 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:

But when you pirate you don't go to the store to begin with. You don't go in and literally steal a disc. It's more the equivalent of borrowing it from someone, the only difference is that this someone is a stranger on the internet rather than your friend. 

It's not borrowing when you do it without the content's owner authorization.

Edited March 19, 2018 by Goffe

[dxmatrixdt]

2 hours ago, Thematrixfilm said:

Spoiler

Black Panther might do better on Sunday.  +10% from Friday gives 29% Sat to Sun drop.  27.45 weekend.

Tomb Raider makes 23.75 if it does 0.85 of Friday on Sunday.

I Can Only Imagine has the best estimated Sunday hold.  0.90 of Friday gives it 16.66 weekend and a 25.75% drop from Saturday

- 95% of Friday gives 16.90 weekend.

Love, Simon at 11.81 with 0.80 of Friday.

Game Night 0.9 Friday on Sunday = 5.67 weekend, up 0.1 from estimates.

Peter Rabbit up a little over 10% from Friday gives 5.25 weekend.

Strangers 2 already has an estimate that is close to 9/10ths of Friday.

Red Sparrow could go better at 95% Fri/Sun = up 0.07 for 4.52 weekend

edit* forgot Wrinkle in Time.  10% over Friday on Sunday gives it 16.65 weekend.

 

 

with a top ten looking like this, here are some predicted weekday totals to go along

Black Panther 27.45 + 10.45 = 616.28 total

Tomb Raider 23.75 + 7.50 = 31.25 total

I Can Only Imagine 16.90 + 6.50 = 23.40 total

A Wrinkle in Time - 16.65 + 5.70 = 66.84 total

Love, Simon - 11.81 + 4.19 = 16.00 total

Game Night - 5.67 + 2.33 = 56.60 total

Peter Rabbit - 5.25 + 1.75 = 104.24 total

Strangers 2 - 4.81 + 1.84 = 20.45 total

Red Sparrow - 4.52 + 1.90 = 41.55 total

Death Wish - 3.40 + 1.45 = 31.43 total

Here is another line of films with the predicted totals by Thursday

 

Annihilation - 30.29 total

Jumanji - 400.81 total

7 Days in Entebbe - 2.21 total

Greatest Showman - 170.24 total

Hurricane Heist - 5.83 total

Shape of Water - 63.03 total

Gringo - 4.89 total

Fifty Shades Freed - 99.93 total

Thoroughbreds - 2.52

Three Billboards - 54.01

Coco - 209.25

The Last Jedi - 619.87

The Post - 81.48

I, Tonya - 29.80

 

[aabattery]

10 minutes ago, Thematrixfilm said:

are you allowed to just copy and paste links to pirated films in HD that sit on a website, and post it on this particular forum?

 

No.

[Avatree]

37 minutes ago, Goffe said:

It’s not borrowing when you do it without the content’s owner authorization.

so if I own a DVD and authorise everyone on The Pirate Bay to download my copy of the DVD, its still "borrowing"?

[That One Girl]

4 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:

But when you pirate you don't go to the store to begin with. You don't go in and literally steal a disc. It's more the equivalent of borrowing it from someone, the only difference is that this someone is a stranger on the internet rather than your friend. 

 

In real life, when you borrow a film from a friend, they don't later distribute that film to thousands, maybe millions, of other people.

[Goffe]

12 minutes ago, Treetanic said:

so if I own a DVD and authorise everyone on The Pirate Bay to download my copy of the DVD, its still "borrowing"?

no, because when you buy physical media you own the disc, not the movie. you can lend your dvd to whoever you please tho.

Edited March 19, 2018 by Goffe

[Mojoguy]

Some people just feel fucking entitled to watching movies for free.

I blame the mods for letting piracy talk continue instead of shutting it down 10 pages ago.

Edited March 19, 2018 by Mojoguy

[MOVIEGUY]

You shouldn't pirate... but I don't consider it a venial sin. I'd feel as guilty about it as shoplifting a DVD from Target, which is to say not very.

[DeeCee]

The photo for each movie has almost the exact same pose.

 

 

[Avatree]

38 minutes ago, Goffe said:

no, because when you buy physical media you own the disc, not the movie. you can lend your dvd to whoever you please tho.

if I own the disc, then I can do whatever I want with it right? SO I should be able to take stuff off the disc and distribute it to whoever, because I bought the disc legally. Whether it's the physical disc or the digital content on the disc is irrelevant as the content is part of the disc.

 

40 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

Some people just feel fucking entitled to watching movies for free.

I blame the mods for letting piracy talk continue instead of shutting it down 10 pages ago.

this is a movie discussion board, primarily one about cinema, and since piracy has a huge effect on cinema why can't it be discussed?

[dxmatrixdt]

1 hour ago, Thematrixfilm said:

Here is another line of films with the predicted totals by Thursday

 

Annihilation - 30.29 total

Jumanji - 400.81 total

7 Days in Entebbe - 2.21 total

Greatest Showman - 170.24 total

Hurricane Heist - 5.83 total

Shape of Water - 63.03 total

Gringo - 4.89 total

Fifty Shades Freed - 99.93 total

Thoroughbreds - 2.52

Three Billboards - 54.01

Coco - 209.25

The Last Jedi - 619.87

The Post - 81.48

I, Tonya - 29.80

 

ESTIMATES FOR NEXT WEEKEND, estimated 12,000 theater count losses, and 12,000+ new theater counts

Pacific Rim 2 - 24.00 - 24.00

Black Panther - 18.00 - 634.28

Sherlock Gnomes - 15.00 - 15.00

Tomb Raider - 12.50 - 43.75

I Can Only Imagine - 10.00 - 33.40

Paul, The Apostle - 8.00 - 8.00

A Wrinkle in Time - 8.00 - 74.84

Love, Simon - 6.60 - 22.60

Game Night - 3.30 - 59.90

Unsane - 2.75 - 2.75

Peter Rabbit - 2.60 - 106.84

Midnight Sun - 2.50 - 2.50

Red Sparrow - 2.40 - 43.95

Strangers 2 - 2.20 - 22.65

Death Wish - 1.70 - 33.13

7 Days in Entebbe - 0.80 - 3.01

Jumanji - 0.70 - 401.51

Annihilation - 0.70 - 30.99

Greatest Showman - 0.52 - 170.76

Shape of Water - 0.32 - 63.35

Fifty Shades Freed - 0.24 - 100.17

Hurricane Heist - 0.20 - 6.03

Thoroughbreds - 0.18 - 2.70

Coco - 0.15 - 209.40

The Last Jedi - 0.14 - 620.01

Three Billboards - 0.12 - 54.13

Gringo - 0.10 - 4.99

The Post - 0.08 - 81.56

I, Tonya - 0.05 - 29.85

 

Edited March 19, 2018 by Thematrixfilm

[Barnack]

7 minutes ago, Treetanic said:

if I own the disc, then I can do whatever I want with it right? SO I should be able to take stuff off the disc and distribute it to whoever, because I bought the disc legally. Whether it's the physical disc or the digital content on the disc is irrelevant as the content is part of the disc.

 

You cannot buy a microsoft windows software with a CD and start distributing the OS to everyone

 

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brookings-now/2014/06/09/why-copyright-law-allows-you-to-borrow-a-book-but-not-share-a-digital-song/

http://www.clas.ufl.edu/llc/copyright/RightsBuyer.html

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.pdf

 

You cannot project a dvd you own in a movie theater and charge money, it is a bit limited (specially for digital content when the .

 

[Avatree]

I understand the law, I'm just asking Goffe to explain his opinion.

[TwoMisfits]

2 hours ago, TheDarkKnightOfSteel said:

Hey guys...this is like reaaaaally OT (so sorry to the moderators and sorry to everyone) but i really need to talk about this and i leave alone so i don't know where else i can talk about it right now (since everyone i know probably sleeps) and i just want to get it out...

 

So i ran over a cat today and i feel like shit.Iniτιally i didn't stop eιther (they were telling me but i was like  "no way") but a friend of mine ,who was driving behind me,saw it and called me.I didn't saw the cat coming and i didn't know about it until after the call but when i reached the cat she was already dead.

 

Anyway,i feel shit for both killing a cat and not stopping to do whatever i could.Maybe i should even be feeling shit for looking for some kind of justification online that i am a good person (and i obviosuly  can't judge that).At the end of the day,now i have killd something.And this is the worst.

 

I understand that this is way OT and i will understand if it gets deleted but i guess it helps until mornign.

So, hitting an animal in the road doesn't make you Satan...it was a mistake...and yes, you did compound it by not immediately stopping to check (since it seems that wasn't hard and was safe to do so, since you did go back later)...so, you're human and you screwed up.  People do that.

 

It's how people fix their screw-ups that determines what type of person they are.  You went back and eventually checked the cat - that's good.  If the cat was owned, you should probably go to the owner to apologize profusely and offer to pay to replace it.  If it was a wild cat, maybe now is the time to see how you can help out a similarly-situated cat (like karma) - maybe volunteer at an animal shelter, adopt a shelter cat, or donate to your community's animal programs. 

 

And if you were distracted by friends driving, it's another lesson to remember you have to focus on the road and not them - you got really lucky it was only a cat.  A kid could have just easily been the fast little thing running across the street.  So, take the event as a lesson to learn from and truly learn from it.  As you get older, you find out life gives you a lot of lessons along the way that you either learn from or continue to screw up - try the easier path:)...

[Ledmonkey96]

31 minutes ago, Treetanic said:

if I own the disc, then I can do whatever I want with it right? SO I should be able to take stuff off the disc and distribute it to whoever, because I bought the disc legally. Whether it's the physical disc or the digital content on the disc is irrelevant as the content is part of the disc.

 

No? Who told you that? The FBI requires a warning in front of all DVD's explicitly stating you can't do that.

[HouseOfTheSun]

@EmpireCity at the haters today 

[dxmatrixdt]

34 minutes ago, Thematrixfilm said:

ESTIMATES FOR NEXT WEEKEND, estimated 12,000 theater count losses, and 12,000+ new theater counts

Pacific Rim 2 - 24.00 - 24.00

Black Panther - 18.00 - 634.28

Sherlock Gnomes - 15.00 - 15.00

Tomb Raider - 12.50 - 43.75

I Can Only Imagine - 10.00 - 33.40

Paul, The Apostle - 8.00 - 8.00

A Wrinkle in Time - 8.00 - 74.84

Love, Simon - 6.60 - 22.60

Game Night - 3.30 - 59.90

Unsane - 2.75 - 2.75

Peter Rabbit - 2.60 - 106.84

Midnight Sun - 2.50 - 2.50

Red Sparrow - 2.40 - 43.95

Strangers 2 - 2.20 - 22.65

Death Wish - 1.70 - 33.13

7 Days in Entebbe - 0.80 - 3.01

Jumanji - 0.70 - 401.51

Annihilation - 0.70 - 30.99

Greatest Showman - 0.52 - 170.76

Shape of Water - 0.32 - 63.35

 

 

THE WEEK AFTER

Ready Player One - 28.00 - 35.00

Acrimony - 11.00 - 11.00

Pacific Rim 2 - 11.00 - 42.50

Black Panther - 10.33 - 650.11

God's Not Dead 3 - 10.00 - 10.00

Tomb Raider - 6.70 - 54.75

I Can Only Imagine - 5.50 - 42.00

Paul, The Apostle - 4.50 - 15.50

A Wrinkle in Time - 4.00 - 81.60

Love, Simon - 3.50 - 28.30

Game Night - 1.65 - 62.90

Unsane - 1.38 - 5.15

Midnight Sun - 1.28 - 4.90

Peter Rabbit - 1.00 - 108.50

Red Sparrow - 1.00 -  45.95

Strangers 2 - 1.00 - 24.45

Death Wish - 0.65 - 34.40

Jumanji - 0.30 - 402.00

7 Days in Entebbe - 0.30 - 3.61

Annhilation - 0.30 - 31.56

Greatest Showman - 0.26 - 171.19

Shape of Water - 0.15 - 64.63

 

 

[DeeCee]

There's an interesting case ongoing at the moment between Redbox and Disney.  It's about whether the physical disc and the attached download code for a digital copy are 1 product or 2.

 

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/judge-slaps-down-disney-effort-to-stop-resale-of-star-wars-download-codes/

[Krissykins]

5 hours ago, Treetanic said:

if I own the disc, then I can do whatever I want with it right?

Nope!

5 hours ago, Ledmonkey96 said:

The FBI requires a warning in front of all DVD's explicitly stating you can't do that.

Yep. There’s warnings that lending is not permitted here in the U.K. on discs. 

[Zakiyyah6]

It is so funny how dead on Empire City was when it came to Love Simon. He said it was tracking to do around 12mil and hadn't budged from that tracking and the film opened with 11.5mil. Sometimes films beat tracking of course but not this time.

Edited March 19, 2018 by Zakiyyah6