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[Spidey Freak]

4 hours ago, The Futurist said:

So this project is attracting super top talent because ... ???

 

 

Also because WB/DC are pushing Flash to be their "Spider-Man" of sorts (youthful jokester, everyman type of character with more cutesy/kiddie appeal than other superheroes). 

[franfar]

I don't think Zemeckis has done a superhero movie before. I would love to see his take on this, but I'm fine with either of the ones listed

[Mikasa Ackerman]

30 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Zemeckis I think will be the most respected director to make a comic book film if he agrees. Surpassing Ang Lee with Hulk and Kenneth Branagh with Thor 

 

Second, after Spielberg. Also, some would put Burton and Nolan over Lee and Brannagh.

[TheDarkKnightOfSteel]

Give this to Zemeckis,Superman to Vaughn and Green Lantern to Raimi.

[a2k]

Raimi would be a great choice.

 

First when you see SM1,2,3 you are wont to take the amazing spidey-swinging effects for granted. Only when you see ASM1,2 you realize that not all directors can induce the awe that Raimi did when Spidey is on the move. His work was genius.

 

Similarly, the difference between Quicksilver of DOFP and AOU was marked. Despite a more sophisticated look in AOU, DOFP's QS was far more fun to watch. The kitchen sequence was beautiful.

 

Same for Flash. It's not just about running around with breakneck speed leaving a trail behind. Raimi could do something awesome.

Edited May 17, 2017 by a2knet

[BadAtGender]

27 minutes ago, Tele Came Back said:

 

In recent years, studios have proven to be far more comfortable hiring neophyte young male directors than experienced female ones, regardless of overall experience. Here are some examples in the last decade:

 

- Tron: Legacy (it was Kosinski's first credited film)

- Godzilla (Gareth Edwards had made a tiny indie movie)

- Iron Man 3 (Shane Black might've been a veteran screenwriter, but he also had only directed a small movie)

- The Amazing Spider-Man (Marc Webb had done some music videos and a small movie)

- 47 Ronin (Carl Rinsch had directed a couple of small short films)

- Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the Russo brothers had directed a TV movie and a fair amount of episodic comedy)

- Guardians of the Galaxy (James Gunn had made a tiny indie movie and a small movie, basically)

- Jurassic World (Colin Trevorrow had made a TV movie and a tiny indie movie)

- Kong: Skull Island (Jordan Vogt-Roberts had directed a couple of small TV movies, a tiny indie movie, and some TV episodes)

- POTC5 (Ronning and Sandberg had directed a handful of Norwegian films, but nothing remotely close to the scale of a Hollywood tentpole)

 

There are plenty of veteran woman with easily this amount of experience (or more!) who've been consistently passed over for every single major directing gig on these tentpole features. Hopefully Jenkins has a huge success, and hopefully DuVarnay as well (with WRINKLE IN TIME).

 

 

Added:

The Avengers (Joss Whedon had directed one film prior, a spinoff of a TV series)

Thor: The Dark World (Alan Taylor had no film directing experience)

Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi has directed three indie features)

Black Panther (Ryan Coogler has directed one indie and one small film)

TMNT 2 (Dave Green had directed one small feature)

300 2 (Noam Murrow had directed one minor comedy)

Robocop (Jose Padilha had directed three foreign features)

Transcendence (Wally Pfister had never directed a feature)

Snow White and the Huntsman (Rupert Sanders had never directed a feature)

Fantastic Four (Josh Trank had directed one small feature)

Furious 7 (James Wan had only directed horror films, none with a budget above $20m)

Rise of the Planet of the Apes (Rupert Wyatt had only directed one tiny feature)

 

And, longer than 10 years ago:

Mission Impossible 3 (JJ Abrams had no previous features)

The Bourne Supremacy (Paul Greengrass only had two tiny features)

The Fellowship of the Ring (Peter Jackson had some ultra low-budget horror, one indie, and a minor Hollywood feature)

Batman Begins (Christopher Nolan had directed one tiny indie, one small indie, and one mid-size adult drama)

X-Men (Bryan Singer had directed two small dramas)

Fantastic Four (Tim Story had directed two smaller comedies)

 

 

 

[ban1o]

6 hours ago, Spidey Freak said:

 

 

Also because WB/DC are pushing Flash to be their "Spider-Man" of sorts (youthful jokester, everyman type of character with more cutesy/kiddie appeal than other superheroes). 

funny you say that because I remember then the Flash tv show came out a ot of the fan boy criticism was that Grant Gustin was basically playing Spider-man not the Flash lol. 

 

They seem to going in a similar direction with this. 

Edited May 17, 2017 by ban1o

[ban1o]

9 hours ago, iJackSparrow said:

#TheFlash is trending hard on twitter, btw. WAIT FOR ZEMECKIS WB!!!!

lol yeah definitely the tv show. 

[Spidey Freak]

32 minutes ago, ban1o said:

funny you say that because I remember then the Flash tv show came out a ot of the fan boy criticism was that Grant Gustin was basically playing Spider-man not the Flash lol. 

 

They seem to going in a similar direction with this. 

 

But it worked so might as well milk that particular take on Flash  

 

A little context: There are different Flashes- two of the most famous are Barry Allen (the DCEU and tv show one) and Wally West (the one who from the 90's cartoons and played by Keiynan Lonsdale on the show). Traditionally Barry was more serious and grounded while Wally had the "wisecracking" Spidey personality. But the current tv show gave Wally's personality to Barry and seems like the DCEU is following suit. The fanboy purists were like "No you are mixing personalities!" But here's the thing- Barry is more prominent and has an interesting backstory and supporting cast like Iris West (Wally's aunt). So it makes sense that DC wants to use him but give him the more appealing personality of the two Flashes. Especially since it worked so well with the tv show (I don't personally watch the show but its popularity is undeniable).

Edited May 17, 2017 by Spidey Freak

[robertman2]

Wally West is best Flash.

 

Also John Stewart is the best Green Lantern and should have been in Justice League instead of Cyborg. I am still very salty about that

[Arlborn]

8 hours ago, Tele Came Back said:

 

In recent years, studios have proven to be far more comfortable hiring neophyte young male directors than experienced female ones, regardless of overall experience. Here are some examples in the last decade:

 

- Tron: Legacy (it was Kosinski's first credited film)

- Godzilla (Gareth Edwards had made a tiny indie movie)

- Iron Man 3 (Shane Black might've been a veteran screenwriter, but he also had only directed a small movie)

- The Amazing Spider-Man (Marc Webb had done some music videos and a small movie)

- 47 Ronin (Carl Rinsch had directed a couple of small short films)

- Captain America: The Winter Soldier (the Russo brothers had directed a TV movie and a fair amount of episodic comedy)

- Guardians of the Galaxy (James Gunn had made a tiny indie movie and a small movie, basically)

- Jurassic World (Colin Trevorrow had made a TV movie and a tiny indie movie)

- Kong: Skull Island (Jordan Vogt-Roberts had directed a couple of small TV movies, a tiny indie movie, and some TV episodes)

- POTC5 (Ronning and Sandberg had directed a handful of Norwegian films, but nothing remotely close to the scale of a Hollywood tentpole)

 

There are plenty of veteran woman with easily this amount of experience (or more!) who've been consistently passed over for every single major directing gig on these tentpole features. Hopefully Jenkins has a huge success, and hopefully DuVarnay as well (with WRINKLE IN TIME).

 

 

5 hours ago, DamienRoc said:

 

Added:

The Avengers (Joss Whedon had directed one film prior, a spinoff of a TV series)

Thor: The Dark World (Alan Taylor had no film directing experience)

Thor: Ragnarok (Taika Waititi has directed three indie features)

Black Panther (Ryan Coogler has directed one indie and one small film)

TMNT 2 (Dave Green had directed one small feature)

300 2 (Noam Murrow had directed one minor comedy)

Robocop (Jose Padilha had directed three foreign features)

Transcendence (Wally Pfister had never directed a feature)

Snow White and the Huntsman (Rupert Sanders had never directed a feature)

Fantastic Four (Josh Trank had directed one small feature)

Furious 7 (James Wan had only directed horror films, none with a budget above $20m)

Rise of the Planet of the Apes (Rupert Wyatt had only directed one tiny feature)

 

And, longer than 10 years ago:

Mission Impossible 3 (JJ Abrams had no previous features)

The Bourne Supremacy (Paul Greengrass only had two tiny features)

The Fellowship of the Ring (Peter Jackson had some ultra low-budget horror, one indie, and a minor Hollywood feature)

Batman Begins (Christopher Nolan had directed one tiny indie, one small indie, and one mid-size adult drama)

X-Men (Bryan Singer had directed two small dramas)

Fantastic Four (Tim Story had directed two smaller comedies)

 

 

 

 

Thank you. I'll bring up these lists any time someone dares to bring that silly and obviously biased argument back. I was thinking of checking up on directors myself so you guys really saved me a lot of time and work so, once again, thank you.

 

Let's keep working to dispel these silly and dangerous notions that hiring directors who don't fit the white and male mold is always done for reasons that have nothing to do with talent.

 

Edited May 17, 2017 by Arlborn

[The Futurist]

We could live in such a different world since JC was supposed to direct Spiderman ...

[JohnnyGossamer]

Uh, if there's any truth in the thread title, that's incredible news. Any of the three would be outstanding. Personally, I'd like to see Zemeckis. But, yeah, Vaughn and Raimi are freak talents as well. If one of the three signs on, this immediately becomes my most anticipated upcoming DCEU feature.

[DMan7]

WB should be considering giving all 3 of these directors a chance to direct another DCeU project and should not let this chance slip. If Zemekis gets to do flash then I want Vaughn/Raimi on Man of Steel 2 and the other on Shazam. 

Edited May 17, 2017 by DMan7

[ban1o]

5 minutes ago, DMan7 said:

WB should be considering giving all 3 of these directors a chance to direct another DCeU project and should not let this chance slip. If Zemekis gets to do flash then I want Vaughn/Raimi on Man of Steel 2 and the other on Shazam. 

lol what if they don't want to do MOS 2 or Shazam though. 

Edited May 17, 2017 by ban1o

[DMan7]

Just now, ban1o said:

lol what if they don't want to do MOS 2 or Shazam though. 

 

Then get one of the other for GL.

[antovolk]

Was this posted here? EW chime in - Raimi has passed, Webb was offered, also passed, Crudup out...
http://ew.com/movies/2017/05/16/flash-director-robert-zemeckis-matthew-vaughn/

 

[DMan7]

WOW Crudup drops out? Next thing we'll be waiting to hear Clemons goes as well.

[ChipDerby]

Not sure where they got that Crudup info.

[JohnnyGossamer]

55 minutes ago, DMan7 said:

 

Then get one of the other for GL.

Agree here. I'd love to see a Raimi or Vaughn take on Green Lantern. To me, outside of Bats, he's the DC superhero I'm most anxious to see done right on the big screen. I know they botched it years ago. Nonetheless, I think a character like that would play really, really well on the big screen.