THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER WEEKEND THREAD | The hammer swings down with 144.2 DOM, 302 WW, the 3rd-biggest 2022 opening | Minions 46.1, TGM 15.5, Elvis 11.2, JWD 8.6

[MOVIEGUY]

 

13 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said:

Mcu fandom is no where near the starwars fandom.

 

Oh it'll get there. It used to just be MCU haters that were whiny and annoying, now I'm noticing fans acting the same way about the movies. It happens any time nerds invest way too much of their lives into a thing, then start to not like said thing and don't know how to handle their disappointment.

 

For the record I'm talking about the real hardcore fans. I'd have no idea that phase 4 has been sub-par or "not leading up to anything" or whatever if I wasn't online. Most people aren't bothered.

[CJohn]

Lets fucking GO.

[TwoMisfits]

1 hour ago, CoolioD1 said:

i think the director probably agreed with you that it'd be an easy job that's why he made it on autopilot.

 

Honestly, Waititi is why I was ringing the bell for this to not be $180m+ when everyone was sold in the beginning.  I know a ton of you love him...but when he was in Free Guy, I didn't think he showed he knew how to restrain himself as an actor, and I figured he'd struggle to do so as a director if he got free reign...and usually when you hit your 1st Thor big, they are gonna give you more rope to hang yourself on the 2nd...

[Porthos]

26 minutes ago, MOVIEGUY said:

 

 

Oh it'll get there. It used to just be MCU haters that were whiny and annoying, now I'm noticing fans acting the same way about the movies. It happens any time nerds invest way too much of their lives into a thing, then start to not like said thing and don't know how to handle their disappointment.

 

For the record I'm talking about the real hardcore fans. I'd have no idea that phase 4 has been sub-par or "not leading up to anything" or whatever if I wasn't online. Most people aren't bothered.

 

Oh, trust me, you're not the only one who is seeing the parallels.

 

May not repeat exactly, but it does rhyme, to partially quote the famous phrase.

[tonytr87]

21 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Lets fucking GO.

 

This moment in the trailer right here is why I've been expecting this to be bad. How do you let VFX this horrible make it to final cut? 

[Cap]

45 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

Oh, trust me, you're not the only one who is seeing the parallels.

 

May not repeat exactly, but it does rhyme, to partially quote the famous phrase.

I think the best thing that the Marvel Fandom has for it is how large it is. If you want, you can avoid things you don’t like. There are shows you can skip over. Or you can just kind of watch them casually, but not really get super invested in. Having a large umbrella means that people can kind of find their hiding spots, and they can stay there. Unfortunately with Star Wars it seems like it always comes back to the same original trilogy. And so that’s what makes it a little more difficult to maneuver around that fandom. It sometimes makes it feel claustrophobic, and gives reason for people to fight with each other.

 

Anyway,

 

Love and Thunder was pure fan fic crack. Not quite the Nirvana of the gay pirate show, but I will definitely be inserting some characters into my Sims game, and rewriting some of our fanfiction to adjust for the awesomeness. Love Taika. Love Himbo Thor. Only thing I needed more of was Val. More Val please. 

[Legion Again]

7 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

oh you meant Week. I was going a bit lower than FFH, are you doing same-ish.

Moving this away from buzz:

Movie	DOM	Wk1 cume	pre-Wk1	True Wk1	True OW Multi
Iron Man	$318,604,126	126,634,395	3500000	123,134,395	2.56
Incredible Hulk	$134,806,913	74,919,370	0	74,919,370	1.80
Iron Man 2	$312,433,331	159,159,871	7500000	151,659,871	2.01
Thor	$181,030,624	84,752,317	3250000	81,502,317	2.18
Captain America: The First Avenger	$176,654,505	91,867,268	4000000	87,867,268	1.96
The Avengers	$623,357,910	270,019,373	18700000	251,319,373	2.41
Iron Man 3	$408,992,272	212,421,084	15600000	196,821,084	2.00
The Dark World	$206,362,140	108,511,114	7100000	101,411,114	1.96
The Winter Soldier	$259,746,958	117,608,171	10200000	107,408,171	2.32
Guardians of the Galaxy	$333,714,112	134,390,839	11200000	123,190,839	2.62
Age of Ultron	$459,005,868	235,655,468	27600000	208,055,468	2.07
Ant-man	$180,202,163	81,310,529	6400000	74,910,529	2.32
Civil War	$408,084,349	223,329,078	25000000	198,329,078	1.93
Doctor Strange	$232,641,920	109,982,169	9400000	100,582,169	2.22
Guardians Vol 2	$389,813,101	183,157,419	17000000	166,157,419	2.24
Homecoming	$334,201,140	163,070,314	15400000	147,670,314	2.16
Ragnarok	$315,058,289	154,989,707	14500000	140,489,707	2.14
Black Panther	$700,059,566	291,954,422	25200000	266,754,422	2.53
Infinity War	$678,815,482	338,332,540	39000000	299,332,540	2.14
Ant-Man and the Wasp	$216,648,740	103,985,225	11500000	92,485,225	2.22
Captain Marvel	$426,829,839	196,895,933	20700000	176,195,933	2.30
Endgame	$858,373,000	473,894,638	60000000	413,894,638	1.93
Far From Home*	$390,532,085	229,229,305	92,483,850	136,745,455	2.18
Black Widow (PA)	$183,651,655	105,761,671	13200000	92,561,671	1.84
Shang-Chi (delta peak)	$224,543,292	109,815,141	8800000	101,015,141	2.14
Eternals	$164,870,264	91,265,255	9500000	81,765,255	1.90
NWH	$804,617,772	385,865,477	50000000	335,865,477	2.25
DS2	$411,300,000	230,859,523	36000000	194,859,523	1.93

 

So was targeting DS2, like @StormbreakerXXR. As you can see 2.15 is average, 1.95 for weak ones and 2.35 or so for great ones. SC and BP are dragged down by mons, but seasonal effects mostly disappear.

[Rebeccas]

1 hour ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

Honestly, Waititi is why I was ringing the bell for this to not be $180m+ when everyone was sold in the beginning.  I know a ton of you love him...but when he was in Free Guy, I didn't think he showed he knew how to restrain himself as an actor, and I figured he'd struggle to do so as a director if he got free reign...and usually when you hit your 1st Thor big, they are gonna give you more rope to hang yourself on the 2nd...

He 100% can restrain himself as an actor if he cares about what he's doing. I mean he genuinely gives a fantastic performance in Our Flag Means Death and he's been excellent in his own films before when he's given a shit about it (obviously he was playing his own father in Boy and it shows that he put a lot of thought into the performance). When he loses interest or is just there to collect a paycheck, he will phone it in and just go an extra as possible I suppose. I think you can even tell from his Korg voice it sounds a bit different in L&T than Ragnarok? He sounded much more like himself in L&T like he could barely give a shit to do the voice anymore lol.

[Fox20]

2 hours ago, MOVIEGUY said:

 

 

Oh it'll get there. It used to just be MCU haters that were whiny and annoying, now I'm noticing fans acting the same way about the movies. It happens any time nerds invest way too much of their lives into a thing, then start to not like said thing and don't know how to handle their disappointment.

 

For the record I'm talking about the real hardcore fans. I'd have no idea that phase 4 has been sub-par or "not leading up to anything" or whatever if I wasn't online. Most people aren't bothered.

You are not wrong, the spoiler sub on reddit is the biggest mess ever, if you like something is bad if you dislike something is bad, if something is connected is bad, if something is not connected si bad, they don't know how to react anymore.

[Porthos]

59 minutes ago, Cap said:

I think the best thing that the Marvel Fandom has for it is how large it is. If you want, you can avoid things you don’t like. There are shows you can skip over. Or you can just kind of watch them casually, but not really get super invested in. Having a large umbrella means that people can kind of find their hiding spots, and they can stay there. Unfortunately with Star Wars it seems like it always comes back to the same original trilogy. And so that’s what makes it a little more difficult to maneuver around that fandom. It sometimes makes it feel claustrophobic, and gives reason for people to fight with each other.

 

Points very well taken (which is why I'm interested in the upcoming Acolyte - as you well know)

 

====

 

Of course, you're also the one who has told me all about the various nasty civil wars in Marvel Fandom, dating back well before the actual Civil War, so you might as well just replied with:

 

 

and you would have been just as correct.  

 

(still, as I said, point very well taken)

Edited July 8, 2022 by Porthos

[Cap]

18 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Of course, you're also the one who has told me all about the various nasty civil wars in Marvel Fandom, dating back well before the actual Civil War, so you might as well just replied with:

 

 

and you would have been just as correct.  

 

(still, as I said, point very well taken)

Well, obviously. It’s not fandom if we’re not fighting with each other. It’s basically a sport at this point. And certainly when you have movies like Civil War, or Doctor Strange, where everyone has a favorite, and the favorites are all together, that’s where the friction and silliness happens. Because everyone needs to pick up their shield and Stormbreaker, and protect their favorite. Instead of just being like that’s a cool point. I’m gonna go off into my corner and not fight you about this. 

 

you didn’t like love and thunder? Cool. 
 

we don’t need to talk about it, or we can find the stuff we both agree on. You know, Kind of like how I didn’t talk to you about Kenobi out of respect for our friendship. 😂😂😂😂

[AnDr3s]

btw the boys is so peak

[Menor the Destroyer]

2 hours ago, MOVIEGUY said:

 

 

Oh it'll get there. It used to just be MCU haters that were whiny and annoying, now I'm noticing fans acting the same way about the movies. It happens any time nerds invest way too much of their lives into a thing, then start to not like said thing and don't know how to handle their disappointment.

 

For the record I'm talking about the real hardcore fans. I'd have no idea that phase 4 has been sub-par or "not leading up to anything" or whatever if I wasn't online. Most people aren't bothered.

I am a huge MCU fan and SW fan and I don't think MCU fandom is anywhere close to as toxic as Star Wars, nor is it even really on the path to get there. There is a difference between criticism and toxicity. 

[Porthos]

2 minutes ago, Cap said:

Well, obviously. It’s not fandom if we’re not fighting with each other. It’s basically a sport at this point. And certainly when you have movies like Civil War, or Doctor Strange, where everyone has a favorite, and the favorites are all together, that’s where the friction and silliness happens. Because everyone needs to pick up their shield and Stormbreaker, and protect their favorite. Instead of just being like that’s a cool point. I’m gonna go off into my corner and not fight you about this. 

 

you didn’t like love and thunder? Cool. 
 

we don’t need to talk about it, or we can find the stuff we both agree on. You know, Kind of like how I didn’t talk to you about Kenobi out of respect for our friendship. 😂😂😂😂

 

*sees Cap claim she wouldn't talk about Kenobi to me, but ***then casually mentions it in the busiest thread on the entire forum*** *

 

 

Is about the only response I can possibly give. 

(h/t as always to Jordan Maison)

 

Spoiler

Also we both know that's a lie as we have discussed its pros and cons a bit.  

 

Spoiler

but, really now, here of all places?  

 

 

[Mr Terrific]

11 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

Can't wait to see how people insist an opening over the previous movie is somehow an underperformance 

As you know, DS2 was an underperformance in that it opened to $187m domestic after the first one did $232m domestic total. 
womp womp

[Cap]

3 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

*sees Cap claim she wouldn't talk about Kenobi to me, but ***then casually mentions it in the busiest thread on the entire forum*** *

 

 

Is about the only response I can possibly give. 

(h/t as always to Jordan Maison)

 

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Also we both know that's a lie as we have discussed its pros and cons a bit.  

 

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but, really now, here of all places?  

 

 

 

To be FAIR, you posted in here first. 

[Legion Again]

Do people really not understand that 123 would be utter shit?   

 

Luckily that's neither here nor there, since it's obviously not happening. But yeesh

[cannastop]

3 hours ago, tonytr87 said:

Except with Rise of Skywalker. They refused to admit how bad it was

what? I thought everyone agreed that movie was crap. Well. Nearly everyone.

[Porthos]

4 minutes ago, Cap said:

To be FAIR, you posted in here first. 

 

But only in support of points you've actually made before!  

 

(really, I should have just gone with the go-to standard of "all fandoms have elements of are crap" and just left it at that. )

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, cannastop said:

what? I thought everyone agreed that movie was crap. Well. Nearly everyone.

 

*glares*