Weekend Thread - 3/17-19 | Weekend Est. - Shazam II $30.5M, Scream VI $17.5M, Creed III $15.4M, LXV $5.8M, #AintMan $4.1M

[Cmasterclay]

Apparently Shazam also didn't get vaccinated against flopping!!

[MovieMan89]

Ghost Rider 2 is the most recent PG-13 superhero film that comes to mind that Shazam could still outgross. Any others? 

[Ledmonkey96]

4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Ghost Rider 2 is the most recent PG-13 superhero film that comes to mind that Shazam could still outgross. Any others? 

It'll be low but it'd need an insane collapse to go that low.

[MovieMan89]

2 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:

It'll be low but it'd need an insane collapse to go that low.

Hence why I said it will outgross it. Anything more recent that it could is the question. I can’t think of it (ww or dom). 

[cdsacken]

22 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

Apparently Shazam also didn't get vaccinated against flopping!!

superhero fatigue is real. Flash will underperform too. Hell I think every single one will. Yikes all of them doing awful

[stuart360]

Wasnt Shazam orig supposed to release along side A2?. Maybe they should of kept that release date. I mrean the film wouldnt of opeend any bigger, lower probably in fact, but at least it would of had holiday weekends and weekdays in its favour.

[Krissykins]

52 minutes ago, filmlover said:

I'm mostly just curious what happens to the rest of the DC slate this year now following this floppage. The Flash is definitely staying put in June (as crowded as that month is even without it) since the marketing has already begun, but I wonder if this will show to other studios that Aquaman is not likely to be much of a threat to anything and move stuff around to Christmas (the fourth quarter schedule is still in need of a shake-up anyway following The Marvels planting itself in November).

I have a feeling that neither of those are going to do well now. 

Edited March 18, 2023 by Krissykins

[stuart360]

Not a big comic book fan here but am i right in saying that WB a while ago basically annouced they were rebooting the DCU, rendering films like Shazam and Aquaman 2 pretty much obsolete?.

 

If i'm right, why would they annouce that so early?. I really quite liked Aquaman, and the sequel is probably going to flop because of it.

Edited March 18, 2023 by stuart360

[MovieMan89]

8 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

superhero fatigue is real. Flash will underperform too. Hell I think every single one will. Yikes all of them doing awful

Flash sounds like it could be something based on reactions, but I’m hesitant to believe Miller controversy + everyone knowing this era do DCEU is over still won’t hurt it. 

[MovieMan89]

I think if GotG underperforms, that’s when we know for sure if superhero fatigue is real. AM3 and Shazam were always doomed, barring some miraculous WOM or something. 

[Elessar]

12 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

superhero fatigue is real. Flash will underperform too. Hell I think every single one will. Yikes all of them doing awful

 

Shazam flopping has no bearing on Flash. Judging from buzz Flash is gonna do very well.

[GOGODanca]

I'm curious to see the Flash's budget, its gotta be their most expensive movie ever with all the production delays, director changes, COVID, reshoots, cameos, etc

[stuart360]

Even with the DCU reboot thing, i think Flash might do well. It seems to be DC's No Way Home, with Batman and other characters in it. It wont do NWH numbers of course, but i think it might do well, even with the DCU reboot crap.

[GOGODanca]

1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said:

I think if GotG underperforms, that’s when we know for sure if superhero fatigue is real. AM3 and Shazam were always doomed, barring some miraculous WOM or something. 

its already real in many key OS markets, the last 3 mcu movies couldn't even get a strong OW in south korea, quantumania opened 1/3 of the 2nd installment in china, france opened poorly

[Ledmonkey96]

1 minute ago, Elessar said:

 

Shazam flopping has no bearing on Flash. Judging from buzz Flash is gonna do very well.

The Flash got the same sort of buzz Shazam got 

[Elessar]

6 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:

The Flash got the same sort of buzz Shazam got 

 

Totally not true.

[Legion Again]

I think there's a pretty clear connection between Shazam and flash and it wouldn't surprise me at all if it missed 200M Dom

 

Real proof of CBM fatigue would be a (really probably would want 2) well received ones that should have been huge but do pretty meh. The closest things we've seen to that this decade are SC (delta) and WF (lead actor death). This year gotg, marvels, and aquaman *could* all qualify... But I wouldn't be surprised if gotg was the only one well received, and did well, in which case it will still be unclear heading into 2024/25ish

[Ipickthiswhiterose]

16 minutes ago, Favorite Fearless Legion said:

Real proof of CBM fatigue would be a (really probably would want 2) well received ones that should have been huge but do pretty meh. The closest things we've seen to that this decade are SC (delta) and WF (lead actor death).

 

Why does everyone still forget The Suicide Squad?

 

It remains the biggest red flag of all. Adored online movie that absolutely fell with a splat and horrendous legs.

 

I know there was supposed mitigation with the simultaneous release, but that was a $185m movie with elevated critical response, successful (box office wise) previous instalment, adoring fans online and a big name director.

 

I still think some remain (I'm not saying the OP does here) in denial about everything to do with TSS. Just easier to pretend it didn't happen.

 

Heck while the OW is probably going to be behind TSS, finals for Shazam are still going to beat the pathetic 55m TSS earned total domestic.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Ipickthiswhiterose

[GOGODanca]

Just now, Ipickthiswhiterose said:

 

Why does everyone still forget The Suicide Squad?

 

It remains the biggest red flag of all. Adored online movie that absolutely fell with a splat and horrendous legs.

 

I know there was supposed mitigation with the simultaneous release, but that was a $185m movie with elevated critical response, successful (box office wise) previous instalment, adoring fans online and a big name director.

 

I still think some remain (I'm not saying the OP does here) in denial about everything to do with TSS. Just easier to pretend it didn't happen.

This means nothing, the biggest movie of the pandemic is probably the most hated online atleast on the circles that love TSS like reddit/twitter

[TigerPaw]

3 minutes ago, Ipickthiswhiterose said:

 

Why does everyone still forget The Suicide Squad?

 

It remains the biggest red flag of all. Adored online movie that absolutely fell with a splat and horrendous legs.

 

I know there was supposed mitigation with the simultaneous release, but that was a $185m movie with elevated critical response, successful (box office wise) previous instalment, adoring fans online and a big name director.

 

I still think some remain (I'm not saying the OP does here) in denial about everything to do with TSS. Just easier to pretend it didn't happen.

 

Heck while the OW is probably going to be behind TSS, finals for Shazam are still going to beat the pathetic 55m TSS earned total domestic.

Everyone I know...pirated TSS.. So not really comparable.

 

I caught it in a half-filled theater in IMAX opening weekend. It was glorious.