Weekend Thread | July 7-9 | Weekend Estimates on Page 32

[toutvabien]

58 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

This is insane.

 

HOT DAMN ELEMENTAL SWEEP

[Brainbug]

Im actually not too surprised at Insidious. The franchise has quite a loyal small fanbase and whats even more important, it is - besides The Conjuring Universe - one of the two big horror series that promises ghost/haunting horror movies with the jumpscare formula which many horror fans actually consider "normal" horror films. Meaning theres a big audience out there in horror that really likes this type of horror movie.

 

That beeing sad, its a great number. If this hits 30M+, then its already one of the biggest hits of the summer by default (16M budget for the win).

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

1 hour ago, wildphantom said:

Deadline 

“Already, Indiana Jones‘ first week at 4,600 theaters is ahead of No Time to Die‘s $75.2M (the pic finaled at $160.8M). Remember, the 007 finale opened at a time when everyone was still skittish about returning to cinemas during the pandemic.”

 

This is such garbage. NTTD is like the third biggest grossing film of all time in the U.K. when everyone was apparently ‘skittish’. Fact is the movie did not far off what Spectre did in the US.  It was not affected by other factors whatsoever. 

 

1 hour ago, wildphantom said:

sure, but they’re effectively saying NTTD’s opening week had a caveat in terms of what it was able to do. I don’t think it did. As the performance of it off the bat proved all over the world that opening week. 

Here's the Deadline report from No Time To Die's opening weekend: it mentions 88 percent of US/Canadian theaters were open but only one state (Delaware) had 100 percent of its theaters open. It also reports internal polling that NTTD was the first movie back in 2 years for more than a third of 35+ viewers. Deadline called out OW overpredictons and unfavorable comparisons between NTTD and Venom 2 as that movie skewed younger, with audiences who'd already returned to theaters before October 2021.

 

IMO it's unwise to assume viewing patterns in every country followed the same patterns, at the same rates. Bond was always more popular (relatively) in the UK and NTTD is #3 all-time there in unadjusted box office gross. That was never, ever going to happen for the movie in the US, even Skyfall is over $600M off from The Force Awakens in this market (the difference is just £20m in the UK). Maybe Bond is so huge in the UK that a new movie could motivate people into theaters en masse despite Covid, and domestic audiences didn’t feel the same way. No Way Home appealed to younger people here, and Top Gun Maverick came out several months into 2022, a summer movie.

 

At this point, though, the dropoff in movie theater attendance is due to changes in pandemic habits becoming entrenched.

 

 

[IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son]

1 hour ago, kayumanggi said:

This is insane.

 

The South Korea thread has been blowing up following this movie for the past few weeks, it's a blast. Most exciting run I've followed this year IMO 

 

[Spidey Freak]

2 hours ago, Krissykins said:

That could be part of it, but doesn’t always work (Scream 3 > 4 being 10 years). No spin offs though. 

 

Scream 4 came out when the teen slasher genre was dead and given way to found footage/shaky cam/torture porn horror like the Saw films and Paranormal Activity.

[Eric the IF]

Insidious really did come out in 2011, huh? Really doesn't feel that long ago, but here we are. WE ARE OLD

[Cmasterclay]

The Nun did 53 million opening weekend? Mamma mia!!! I knew it had a big opening and bad reception but I thought it was like 40m for some reason!

[CoolioD1]

41 minutes ago, John Marston said:

In 2011 I remember loads of articles expressing shock that Insidious outgrossed Scream 4. Looks like I’m 2023 Scream will win that battle but Insidious looks to still be holding up strong 

I remember at the time it was surprising but in hindsight around 2011 spooky ghost movies like paranormal activity really had a monopoly on the horror market so shouldn't have been so surprising that Insidious came out ahead. that first one had great legs for a horror.

[LegionWrex]

2 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

The Nun did 53 million opening weekend? Mamma mia!!! I knew it had a big opening and bad reception but I thought it was like 40m for some reason!

Movie had insanely strong marketing, and it was coming off of The Conjuring 2 and Annabelle: Creation which both got positive reviews. Also important to note that Conjuring 2 is one of the best received horror films Cinemasocre wise (A-).

 

It's still the highest grossing film in the franchise too with $365.6M WW which is an insane number for a horror film like it.

[Eric the IF]

Probably should give the Insidious films a rewatch at some point. Remember liking almost all them fine minus the third one when I watched them around when movie 4 dropped. All kind of had the same issue I have with James Wan films where its fun and well-made, but the whole never quite equals the sum of its parts for whatever reason. Though this new one kinda feels like a "I'll watch if nothing else is out" deal.

[Dominic Draper]

Not even sure why the surprise about insidious.

 

The last one had a lower RT and  audience score than this one, didn't have Byrne or Wilson and its the highest grossing in the franchise.

 

I don't even think critic reviews matter all that much for the horror genre, they've always gotten reviewed harshly.

 

James Wan doesn't get talked about enough for his career accomplishments.

 

Created 3 of the biggest horror franchises of all time including the biggest. Highest grossing FF film. Highest grossing DC film.

 

WB should have been backing up the brinks truck to his house but they seem to have soured the relationship and now he's gone.

 

 

Edited July 7, 2023 by Dominic Draper

[PenguinHyphy]

2 hours ago, wildphantom said:

Deadline 

“Already, Indiana Jones‘ first week at 4,600 theaters is ahead of No Time to Die‘s $75.2M (the pic finaled at $160.8M). Remember, the 007 finale opened at a time when everyone was still skittish about returning to cinemas during the pandemic.”

 

This is such garbage. NTTD is like the third biggest grossing film of all time in the U.K. when everyone was apparently ‘skittish’. Fact is the movie did not far off what Spectre did in the US.  It was not affected by other factors whatsoever. 

 

Uh, America is not the UK 

[grim22]

48 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

 

Scream 4 came out when the teen slasher genre was dead and given way to found footage/shaky cam/torture porn horror like the Saw films and Paranormal Activity.

 

The funniest development story is the new Friday the 13th movie - its been in development through all the different horror genre changeups in the past 15 years and has had scripts for all of those change-ups. There was the straight up hard-R torture porn version developed, then a found footage version developed, then a subversion of expectations one where Jason's Dad is the actual killer, and a legacy sequel version when Halloween happened to the random Crystal Lake TV Show in the works at Peacock which will likely never end up happening either. The legal battle behind the franchise prevented anything associated with it from coming out. Even now, the end result was that the screenwriter only owns domestic rights, so no actual theatrical movie can happen until that is sorted out since New Line owns OS rights.

[SchumacherFTW]

29 minutes ago, PenguinHyphy said:

 

Uh, America is not the UK 

They're a poor imitation of us is what they is

[ListenHunnyUrOver]

2 hours ago, Poseidon said:

Yeah well, with Joy Ride having a tough time as well, the comedy genre really is in danger to even survive at the movies. 

Comedy on its own won’t do it anymore. Comedy needs something high concept to sell (like EEAAO or Barbie have) but yeah raunchy comedies are DEAD. 

[wildphantom]

38 minutes ago, PenguinHyphy said:

 

Uh, America is not the UK 

that wasn’t really my point, but ok. 

[ringedmortality]

Was Joy Ride ever gonna do more than like 20DOM total though

[ListenHunnyUrOver]

Elemental trailers really undersold the movie. Hopefully it blows up on streaming like Encanto. 

[LegionWrex]

15 minutes ago, ListenHunnyUrOver said:

Elemental trailers really undersold the movie. Hopefully it blows up on streaming like Encanto. 

They really did. Movie is much better/more interesting then I expected from the trailers, they really did not do it justice.

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

I went to a Prime auditorium at AMC for the first time.... and I know 99% of all movies look like shit today and the dim projections don't help... but Prime is just... louder? I would have wasted my money if not for A-list

 

Anyway, Insidious 5.. if for whatever reason you actually want to watch this piece of mid... skip Prime!