The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/3/2023 at 5:11 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

GODZILLA MINUS ONE

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-27 *First few hours

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
33	60	6654	0.09%

^{*numbers taken as of 5:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

First few hours

 

(0.300x) of The Creator $405k Previews

Comps AVG: $405k

*Take this with a grain of salt, because no MTC1 will really skew things

 

Not much going on...No MTC1 listed yet 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

GODZILLA MINUS ONE

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-26

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
33	85	6654	1.3%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

25

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-26

 

(0.239x) of Exorcist $681k Previews

Comps AVG: $681k

 

Still not MTC1 posted. Also several Mini TCs haven't listed showings yet  

S/O to @Hilts for bringing up EA 

 

EA sales *separate from Thursdays previews listed above*

199 seats sold over 20 showings 

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/3/2023 at 6:15 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

THE HUNGER GAMES: THE BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS AND SNAKES

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-13

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
168	1123	32190	3.5%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

104

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-13

 

(0.777x) of Fast X $5.82M Previews

(0.444x) of FNAF $4.58M Previews

(0.478x) of The Flash $4.64M Previews

Comps AVG: $5.01M

 

Another strong day 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

THE HUNGER GAMES: THE BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS AND SNAKES

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-12

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
168	1194	32190	3.7%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

71

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-12

 

(0.816x) of Fast X $6.12M Previews

(0.456x) of FNAF $4.70M Previews

(0.490x) of The Flash $4.75M Previews

Comps AVG: $5.19M

 

Increased against every comp

[TheFlatLannister]

On 11/3/2023 at 6:08 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WISH

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-18

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
162	613	29762	2.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

1

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-18

 

(1.498x) of Elemental $3.60M Previews *Not adjusted for ATP discount Tuesday* 

 

*Saturday EA* separate from previews 

168 seats sold over 10 showings 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WISH

 

Tuesday Previews 

 

T-17

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
162	616	29762	2.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

3

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-17

 

(1.467x) of Elemental $3.52M Previews *Not adjusted for ATP discount Tuesday* 

 

*Saturday EA* separate from previews 

174 seats sold over 10 showings 

[TheFlatLannister]

23 hours ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

The Marvels 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-6

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
275	2715	55831	4.9%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

58

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-6

 

(0.390x) of GOTG3 $6.83M Previews

Comps AVG: $6.83M

 

Slipped below $7M and will continue to slip if things don't somewhat improve 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

The Marvels 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-5

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
275	2769	55831	4.9%

^{*numbers taken as of 7:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

54

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-5

 

(0.377x) of GOTG3 $6.61M Previews

Comps AVG: $6.61M

 

Ran the scraper twice just to make sure...This is going to fall below $6M by T-0 😬

 

*Flash comp is at $8.30M* 

Edited November 4, 2023 by TheFlatLannister

[vafrow]

On 11/3/2023 at 6:36 PM, vafrow said:

 

Hunger Games Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, T-13, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Tickets sold: 96

New sales: 20

Growth: 26.3%

Theatres: 5 out of 5

Showtimes: 19

Chains tracked: MTC4, via manual count from chain app

 

COMPS

No reasonable regional comps available

 

Tickets per showtime analysis (tickets sold/showtimes= tickets per showtime)

Avg: 4.0

 

By timing:

Late Afternoon: 4/3= 1.3

Early Evening: 72/9=8.0

Late Evening: 20/7=2.9

 

By format:

Regular: 4/3=1.3

Dolby: 38/7=5.4

VIP: 27/3=9.0

IMAX: 22/4=5.5

4DX: 5/2=2.5

 

Nothing too spectacular one way or the other. Chugging along to a reasonable performance.

 

All the extra data dimensions aren't really painting a picture or anything, but will keep it going in the event it does eventually.

 

 

 

 

Hunger Games Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, T-12, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Tickets sold: 118

New sales: 22

Growth: 22.9%

Theatres: 5 out of 5

Showtimes: 19

Chains tracked: MTC4, via manual count from chain app

 

COMPS

0.331x of Marvels for ??

 

Tickets per showtime analysis (tickets sold/showtimes= tickets per showtime)

Avg: 6.2

 

By timing:

Late Afternoon: 5/3= 1.7

Early Evening: 93/9=10.3

Late Evening: 20/7=2.9

 

By format:

Regular: 5/3=1.7

Dolby: 48/7=6.9

VIP: 29/3=9.7

IMAX: 31/4=7.8

4DX: 5/2=2.5

 

We're far enough in that I thought I'd add the Marvels comp, and it's not looking great. Yes, Marvels isn't going to be the best comp, and Marvels was only dealing with low single digit growth at this stage, so HG:BOSS can narrow the gap if the 20% growth pattern sticks. But, it will likely settle down this week, and hopefully positive reviews will see it finish strong.

 

[M37]

Looking at these updates today …

[Boxofficerules]

Are we getting reviews or social media reactions for any of these movies soon?

[Relevation]

12 minutes ago, M37 said:

Looking at these updates today …

Spoiler

Do we need to start considering an opening in Elemental territory

 

[HummingLemon496]

20 minutes ago, Relevation said:

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Do we need to start considering an opening in Elemental territory

 

Yeahhh maybe if reviews are bad and it crashes down to like 5 * 6.5 = 32.5

[BOfficeStats]

34 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Are we getting reviews or social media reactions for any of these movies soon?

The Marvels social media embargo lifts on Nov. 7, 9PM PT while the review embargo lifts Nov. 8, 9 AM PT.

 

It seems like the Hunger Games social media embargo lifts on Nov. 5, 10 AM PT while the review embargo lifts Nov. 9, 11 AM PT.  

Edited November 5, 2023 by BOfficeStats

[Blue35]

32 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Are we getting reviews or social media reactions for any of these movies soon?

I think the hunger games social media embargo lifts tomorrow at 1PM ET. While the review embargo lifts Nov 9th at 2PM ET

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, M37 said:

Looking at these updates today …

 

One thing to remember is that Saturdays, especially T-5 Saturdays, are traditionally slow days. 

 

...

 

That being said, some Saturdays are slower than others.  Curious to see just how slow it is gonna be when I start my checks in about 90min or so.

[charlie Jatinder]

5 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Trolls Band Together Early Shows Final

MTC1 - 25080/48653 264241.44 284 shows

MTC2 - 24413/42860 294655.23 325 shows

 

Good finish. Especially at MTC2. 

Mtc2 atp higher than 1. That’s a first.

[WebSurfer]

4 hours ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

The Marvels 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-5

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
275	2769	55831	4.9%

^{*numbers taken as of 7:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

54

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS

T-5

 

(0.377x) of GOTG3 $6.61M Previews

Comps AVG: $6.61M

 

Ran the scraper twice just to make sure...This is going to fall below $6M by T-0 😬

 

*Flash comp is at $8.30M* 

Looking more like Wish will be their winner this month.

[Relevation]

20 minutes ago, WebSurfer said:

Looking more like Wish will be their winner this month.

Wish will probably have a larger 3-day OW than The Marvels despite Wish opening on a Wednesday 

[MovieMan89]

I have been genuinely baffled why anyone would think a Hunger Games prequel in 2023 could pull any kind of big OW.
 

Quick history reminder: this franchise conquered the Hollywood tentpole heap DOM, and then right when it was at the height of its powers, it had a terribly disappointing opening for both parts of its “big finale” with big drop offs from its well received predecessors. This was a decade ago mind you.
 

So now we’re gonna bring it back all these years later in prequel form with approximately zero of the OG cast and expect the GA to care? Nah. THG was always a moment in time franchise that shot into the stratosphere instantly and fizzled out so quick, it couldn’t even finish its relatively short saga on top. 

Edited November 5, 2023 by MovieMan89

[keysersoze123]

1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Mtc2 atp higher than 1. That’s a first.

it got DBOX and some PLF while MTC1 was all regular digital shows. 

[John Marston]

Just now, MovieMan89 said:

I have been genuinely baffled why anyone would think a Hunger Games prequel in 2023 could pull any kind of big OW.
 

Quick history reminder: this franchise conquered the Hollywood tentpole heap DOM, and then right when it was at the height of its powers, it has a terribly disappointing opening for both parts of its “big finale.” This was a decade ago mind you.
 

So now we’re gonna bring it back all these years later in prequel form with approximately zero of the OG cast and expect the GA to care? Nah. THG was an always a flash moment in time franchise that shot into the stratosphere instantly and fizzled out so quick, it couldn’t even finish its relatively short saga on top. 

I think the trailers have been very good. I wasn’t interested at first but the trailers piqued my interest. Also I think people fondly remember the first two films at least so if the movie gets good reviews think it could end up doing all right 

[MovieMan89]

1 minute ago, John Marston said:

I think the trailers have been very good. I wasn’t interested at first but the trailers piqued my interest. Also I think people fondly remember the first two films at least so if the movie gets good reviews think it could end up doing all right 

I think potential for legs is there if WOM is amazing. Potential for a good OW was always toast though imo. 

[Mojoguy]

1 hour ago, Relevation said:

Wish will probably have a larger 3-day OW than The Marvels despite Wish opening on a Wednesday 

I think Disney is waiting for Marvel is come out before starting the Wish marketing blitz. The 100th anniversary thing should make it more important to them than Marvels.

Edited November 5, 2023 by Mojoguy