zackzack Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 15/12/2016 at 2:04 AM, Cochofles said: What was the major complaint(s) about Prometheus ? On 15/12/2016 at 2:28 AM, Goffe said: Dumb characters. No that I share that complaint, I thought it was great. On 15/12/2016 at 3:39 AM, Xinau said: Character actions that didn't seem logical/rational. A story that set up a lot of interesting questions that it didn't answer, or didn't answer very satisfactorily for a lot of people. Sequel-baiting, basically. An ending that felt a bit too much like fan service. Production design (at least for the Engineers) that deliberately de-emphasized Giger's influence. I don't mind "the dumb scientists" as much as I do "the dumb pilots" who Spoiler suddenly blindly follow the order of the suddenly messianic captain to trash the expensive spaceship into the indestructible alien ship, thereby removing the only means of getting everybody out of the alien planet. What motivates Elba's character to go on a suicide run ? How a pair of civilian pilots would just decide to be martyrs without any character development?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcaballero Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, zackzack said: I don't mind "the dumb scientists" as much as I do "the dumb pilots" who Reveal hidden contents suddenly blindly follow the order of the suddenly messianic captain to trash the expensive spaceship into the indestructible alien ship, thereby removing the only means of getting everybody out of the alien planet. What motivates Elba's character to go on a suicide run ? How a pair of civilian pilots would just decide to be martyrs without any character development?? If I remember correctly: Spoiler Shaw convinces them that the Engineer is going to go to Earth to unleash the bioweapon (the whole "there will be no home to go back to" line). That was their only chance to stop the ship from taking off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 29 minutes ago, elcaballero said: If I remember correctly: Hide contents Shaw convinces them that the Engineer is going to go to Earth to unleash the bioweapon (the whole "there will be no home to go back to" line). That was their only chance to stop the ship from taking off. There is no proof the Engineers are going to do that. The whole thing is very contrived. The pilots could eject as they steer the ship to hit the Engineer's. If they are some kind of military personnel, it may be easier to swallow. But they are civilians.... Petting an alien snake in a scary cave is less contrived than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinau Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 48 minutes ago, zackzack said: I don't mind "the dumb scientists" as much as I do "the dumb pilots" who Hide contents suddenly blindly follow the order of the suddenly messianic captain to trash the expensive spaceship into the indestructible alien ship, thereby removing the only means of getting everybody out of the alien planet. What motivates Elba's character to go on a suicide run ? How a pair of civilian pilots would just decide to be martyrs without any character development?? Yep. Don't get me started It's a beautiful movie to look at, but the story and characters didn't work for me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcaballero Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, zackzack said: There is no proof the Engineers are going to do that. The whole thing is very contrived. The pilots could eject as they steer the ship to hit the Engineer's. If they are some kind of military personnel, it may be easier to swallow. But they are civilians.... Petting an alien snake in a scary cave is less contrived than this. I'll concede that it wasn't the best written scene and that they seemed oddly gung-ho about it. It's been a while since I've seen it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I'm hoping the trailer comes as soon as possible, I can't wait anymore!! I'm sure it will release with Assasins Creed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 12/10/2016 at 0:20 PM, Cochofles said: I am a huge fan of Alien and Aliens, and I am still clueless as to why they keep unearthing the dried-up carcass of this franchise just so they can unleash yet another mediocre entry that audiences quickly forget. Same thing happens with the Terminator series... Just let it go, Hollywood. If James Cameron announced tomorrow he was making the Terminator 3 he always wanted to make you can bet people would be excited. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antovolk Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 https://trailer-track.com/2016/12/20/in-the-pipeline-the-alien-covenant-teaser-trailer-has-been-rated/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elessar Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I.WANT.THIS.SO.BAD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 James Franco is now in this http://variety.com/2016/film/news/alien-covenant-james-franco-1201946401/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marveldcfox Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 already posted a week or two ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochofles Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 http://ew.com/movies/2016/12/20/alien-covenant-katherine-waterston-photo/ The Ripley visual reference is about as subtle as a sledgehammer to the head... But I don't mind. Noomi Rapace in Prometheus was also a Weaver-as-Ripley lookalike... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Cochofles said: http://ew.com/movies/2016/12/20/alien-covenant-katherine-waterston-photo/ The Ripley visual reference is about as subtle as a sledgehammer to the head... But I don't mind. Noomi Rapace in Prometheus was also a Weaver-as-Ripley lookalike... Oh god this looks terrible already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Grand Moff said: Oh god this looks terrible already. She's a great actress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Noctis said: She's a great actress. Oh, I like her as an actress. I'm just saying the film looks like it's going to try and be riding on nostalgia and callbacks and not andd much new again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Katherine Waterston reminds me of Jennifer Jason Leigh for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Water Bottle Posted December 20, 2016 Community Manager Share Posted December 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, Grand Moff said: Oh, I like her as an actress. I'm just saying the film looks like it's going to try and be riding on nostalgia and callbacks and not andd much new again. It worked for another science fiction series last year.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, filmlover said: Katherine Waterston reminds me of Jennifer Jason Leigh for some reason. now that you mention it totally. her character in fantastic beasts would have been greatly improved with JJL's old school hudsucker accent 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
