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Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.   But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.   Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV ca
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MODERATION:   Hi, everyone. It’s 6 o’clock in the morning. I have not gone to bed yet. And I am tired. And I know it’s going to be a very long weekend. Here is the new rule.   This thread is for numbers and data. Please post your theater updates. Please post your comparable data. And please talk about that comparable data here.    If you wish to do a deep dive on why you think that data might or might not suck, then take it to the respective thread of the movie in ques
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9 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

GA has already forked over the cash for Captain Marvel, Endgame, Aladdin, Endgame, Toy Story 4, Far From Home and The Lion King this year, and thy’re saving money for F2, Juman3, and Star Wars. Can’t afford to watch any of this B tier stuff :Venom:

Jumanji doesn't have the Disney logo. It's B tier

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Note: This chart only shows 3,000+ theaters, regardless of sorting.

Rank& Title (click to view) Studio Theaters Weekend Gross* % of Total Average Total Gross^ Date** Wk#
1 The Lion King (2019) BV 4,802 n/a n/a n/a $385,082,142 8/02/19 3
2 Avengers: Endgame BV 4,662 $357,115,007 41.7% $76,601 $856,980,506 4/26/19 1
3 Spider-Man: Far from Home Sony 4,634 $92,579,212 26.4% $19,978 $351,020,371 7/05/19 1
4 Toy Story 4 BV 4,575 $120,908,065 30.1% $26,428 $401,486,230 6/21/19 1
5 The Secret Life of Pets 2 Uni. 4,564 $24,408,160 15.8% $5,348 $154,478,250 6/14/19 2
6 Despicable Me 3 Uni. 4,535 $33,580,425 12.7% $7,405 $264,624,300 7/07/17 2
7 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Uni. 4,485 $60,912,195 14.6% $13,581 $417,719,760 6/29/18 2
8 Aladdin (2019) BV 4,476 $91,500,929 26.3% $20,443 $347,902,903 5/24/19 1
9 Avengers: Infinity War BV 4,474 $257,698,183 38.0% $57,599 $678,815,482 4/27/18 1
10 The Twilight Saga: Eclipse Sum. 4,468 $64,832,191 21.6% $14,510 $300,531,751 7/02/10 1

 

 

Is releasing the movie in more than 4500 theaters a trend now? TLK will have 4800+ locations this week! breaking theatr count record!

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Jumanji doesn't have the Disney logo. It's B tier

And it’s got the Rock, even worse. But don’t worry, Karen Gillan  will save it.

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On 7/31/2019 at 6:15 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Hobbs and Shaw Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

Dolby:

7 PM – 140/217

10:15 PM – 27/217(+10)

AMC Prime:

NEW 7:45 PM – 21/187(+21)

NEW 11 PM – 2/187(+2)

2D:

7 PM – 25/158(+3)

7:30 PM – 6/56(-7)

NEW 8:15 PM – 4/36(+4)

10:45 PM – 2/56

11:15 PM – 0/158(-2)

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

Dolby:

NEW 7 PM – 68/210(+68)

NEW 10:10 PM – 7/210(+7)

2D:

7 PM – 81/159(-4)

7:30 PM – 15/52(+9)

NEW 7:45 PM – 2/85(+2)

NEW 8 PM – 0/41

NEW 8:15 PM – 0/159

NEW 9 PM – 4/85(+4)

NEW 10 PM – 0/85

10:15 PM – 7/159(+2)

Total from 9 theaters(47 showings): 901(+272)/8195(+3272) (11%)

TLK comp: 4.05M

OUATIH comp: 5.62M

Well the PLFs finally getting added helped today. I suspect that a couple showings lost tickets because people wanted to go to the PLF instead. Both comps went up by quite a bit, but unsurprisingly, it’s looking like the OUATIH comp will be the best one. But all depends on that walkup business tomorrow. OUATIH had a huge boost on Thursday.

Hobbs and Shaw Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

Dolby:

7 PM – 162/217(+22)

10:15 PM – 54/217(+27)

AMC Prime:

7:45 PM – 71/187(+50)

11 PM – 2/187

2D:

7 PM – 44/158(+19)

7:30 PM – 18/56(+12)

8:15 PM – 21/36(+17)

10:45 PM – 4/56(+2)

11:15 PM – 0/158

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

Dolby:

7 PM – 153/210(+85)

10:10 PM – 42/210(+35)

2D:

7 PM – 109/159(+28)

7:30 PM – 33/52(+18)

7:45 PM – 11/85(+9)

8 PM – 2/41(+2)

8:15 PM – 18/159(+18)

9 PM – 7/85(+3)

10 PM – 4/85(+4)

10:15 PM – 8/159(+1)

Total from 9 theaters(58 showings): 2052(+1151)/9456(+1261) (21.7%)

TLK comp: 6.22M

OUATIH comp: 7.02M

Adjusted OUATIH comp: 6.23M

Interesting how the adjusted OUATIH comp and TLK are almost the exact same… So, Hobbs has been selling great these past 3 hours. I did a count at 4 so I could adjust for OUATIH, and it has sold 557 tickets in 3 hours. I’m feeling pretty good about 6M. Especially with these sales the past few hours, it looks like it will have some great walkups. So, I’ll just go with my adjusted OUATIH comp. 6.23M

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Hobbs & Shaw Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

PREMIERE NIGHT (FINAL REPORT) [5:40pm - 6:15pm]

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

128

11254

14326

3072

21.44%

Total Seats Sold Since 1pm:           1064 

 

Comps (probably lol - use at own risk)

0.9531x as many tickets sold as John Wick 3 at stop of tracking.                [5.43m]

0.7877x as many tickets sold as Aladdin at stop of tracking.                      [5.51m]

0.2799x as many tickets sold as The Lion King at stop of tracking.             [6.44m]

 

Detailed Final Comps:

Spoiler

Aladdin: [5:00pm - 5:30pm]

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

117

9953

13853

3900

28.15%

Total Seats Sold Since 1pm:             809

 

John Wick 3: [5:10pm - 5:30pm]

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

82

7282

10505

3223

30.8%

Total Seats Sold Since Mid-Day:        729

 

The Lion King [4:30pm - 5:45pm]

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

7

289

17020

27997

10977

39.21%

Total Seats Sold Since 1pm:            1800

 

 

Adjusted Comps (also probably lol - use at own risk)

.3454x as many tickets sold as Deadpool 2 at stop of tracking.         [6.42m]

.4510x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom at stop of tracking.   [6.90m]

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

Detailed Final Comps (adj):

Spoiler

 

DP2: [5:30pm - 6:30pm]

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Perct Sold

TOTALS

3

169

8357

16490

49.32%

Total Seats Sold Since 1pm(ish):     1262

 

JW2: [5:30pm - 6:15pm]

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

1

147

7487

13715

6228

45.41%

Total Seats Sold Since 1pm:           1275

 

H&S (JW)*: [5:40pm - 6:15pm]

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

128

9844

12653

2809

22.20%

* TLK (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom and Deadpool 2.

 

Total Seats Sold Since 1pm:      943

 

This movie exploded in Sacto this half day.  Wanna think about it a few minutes before giving any sort of final comp suggestions.

 

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Noticed a transposed digit nearly two years later lol
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I've been thinking for the past week that fast and furious is the type of movie to have stronger walk-ups.....but not more so than Jurassic world, surely. 

 

Right now my guess is 4.5-5 in previews, 45-55 weekend. 

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I already said why I didn't like the KotM comp, which is why I nuked it.  For the record it pointed to 6.72m, not too far off the JW:FK comp.  


Speaking of, I think that is way too high.  If only for 3D and more PLF.

 

Didn't realize I stopped tracking on Wick 3 as early as I did, but that was a pretty half-hearted off the cuff track anyway, so I don't personally put too much weight into it.   

 

On the other hand, I was surprised that the DP2 comp was as good as it was.  On the other other hand, DP2's PLF proportion of tickets sold was three times better than H&S.

 

All in all, and taking other cities into account, think I'll call for a flat 6m in previews, +/- .4m.

 

Late PLF and no 3D hurts this something fierce.  I say late PLF because while some theaters sold PLF tickets by the bucketload today, other theaters which added at the last second sold a fraction.  There won't be as many kids tickets I think as well.  But all in all, much much muuuuuuch better than it looked.

 

But I think the hole was too big to crawl out of for much more than 6m.  And even that seems like a bit of a limb to go out on.  Could be 5.5m.  Hell, could be as low as 5 to 5.25m.  But I think I'll stick with 6m simply because the walkups look to be accelerating, which could mean a relative over-performance.

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4 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

 

 

eh there goes 60M

 

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

Could be 5.5m.  Hell, could be as low as 5 to 5.25m.  But I think I'll stick with 6m simply because the walkups look to be accelerating, which could mean a relative over-performance.

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EXCLUSIVE: Universal’s Fast and Furious spinoff Hobbs & Shaw starring Dwayne Johnsonand Jason Statham is currently seeing a Thursday night that’s between $4.5M-$5M

Or it could be 5m after all.

 

Way to go and make me look bad, Deadline. :lol:

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12 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Hobbs & Shaw Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

PREMIERE NIGHT (FINAL REPORT) [5:40pm - 6:15pm]

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

128

11254

14326

21.44%

 

Total Seats Sold Since 1pm:           1064 

 

Comps (probably lol - use at own risk)

0.9531x as many tickets sold as John Wick 3 at stop of tracking.                [5.43m]

0.7877x as many tickets sold as Aladdin at stop of tracking.                      [5.51m]

0.2799x as many tickets sold as The Lion King at stop of tracking.             [6.44m]

 

Detailed Final Comps:

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Adjusted Comps (also probably lol - use at own risk)

.3454x as many tickets sold as Deadpool 2 at stop of tracking.         [6.42m]

.4510x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom at stop of tracking.   [6.90m]

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

Detailed Final Comps (adj):

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This movie exploded in Sacto this half day.  Wanna think about it a few minutes before giving any sort of final comp suggestions.

 

How long does it take you to put together one of these? Im thinking of doing one for toronto just all seats total and just seeing seat increases

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Just now, Tinalera said:

How long does it take you to put together one of these? Im thinking of doing one for toronto just all seats total and just seeing seat increases

 

15 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Hobbs & Shaw Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

PREMIERE NIGHT (FINAL REPORT) [5:40pm - 6:15pm]

 

:)

 

That's just for counting everything, not the actual post (which I tend to pre-type up so I can plug in some numbers and comps)

 

But this is one of the quicker counts and I've also gotten pretty good at flying through it.  TLK, for comparison took over an hour on final report.  And that's with a detailed spreadsheet and whatnot.

 

Anywhere from 30 to 65 minutes, depending on how many showtimes I have and how many sold out showings there are (since I can skip them).

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