The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Shang-Chi Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

185

1752

10.56%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

118

1016

11.61%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
698	51	14780	4.72%	15	77

 

Black Widow day 5 comp: 8.37M

Suicide Squad comp: 10.08M

Fast 9 comp: 9.59M

 

64 tickets sold at Regals @charlie Jatinder

Shang-Chi Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total

194

1752

11.07%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

129

1016

12.70%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
743	45	14780	5.03%	15	77

 

T-X Black Widow comp: 5.53M

Suicide Squad comp: 10.36M

Fast 9 comp: 9.59M

 

No more of the BW day X comp. Normal Black Widow comp seems to pretty much be in line with others. A very nice 69 tickets for Regals @charlie Jatinder

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Shang-Chi Megaplex

 

T-13 days Thursday: 696(+81)/16744 in 15 theaters

 

T-14 days Friday: 477(+113)/36161 in 15 theaters

Shang-Chi Megaplex

 

T-12 days Thursday: 751(+55)/16744 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow day 6 comp: 6.48M

Normal Black Widow comp: 4.45M

 

T-13 days Friday: 531(+54)/36161 in 15 theaters

 

Black Widow day 6 comp: 16.59M

Normal Black Widow comp: 9.64M

 

I'm only doing the day X comps today, just did them since I haven't had any previous days. Like I kinda mentioned in another post, I think the presales have been relatively weak so far. For a fan-driven movie at least.

[Eric Duncan]

23 hours ago, Free Eric said:

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-13 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	54	941	10896	8.64%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 54

 

Comp

1.199x of F9 T-13 (8.51M)

0.492x of Black Widow T-13 (6.49M)

3.422x of The Suicide Squad T-13 (14.03M)

 

I'll update w/ MTC3 count tomorrow monring

 

218 tickets from MTC3

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-12 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	54	978	10896	8.98%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 37

 

Comp

1.156x of F9 T-12 (8.21M)

0.483x of Black Widow T-12 (6.38M)

3.282x of The Suicide Squad T-12 (13.46M)

 

224 tickets from MTC3

[keysersoze123]

Shang Chi Previews (T-12)

MTC1 - 37112/319763 635990.20 1569 shows

MTC2 ~ 16.4K/316683 ~235K 2029 shows

 

As I said skew of MTC1/2 is at Suicide Squad level. 

BW(T-12)

MTC1 Prev - 66333/462524 994450.00 2395 shows.

 

MTC1 Friday(T-13) -  46290/775727 639239.00 3863 shows

 

 

I did not track BW in MTC2 at that time but @Menor did update on 6/29 which was T-9(around 47.5K). That was a normal ratio(F9 was more skewed on MTC2 side). 

 

Shang Chi OD(T-13)

MTC1 - 23238/690312 389887.09 3300 shows

MTC2 ~ 14K/658700 180K 4183 shows

 

Its PS is even more frontloaded than BW was. But that is not a surprise as that movie played wider with a known character. Overall the PS is good. 

 

 

 

 

[ThomasNicole]

6 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Shang Chi Previews (T-12)

MTC1 - 37112/319763 635990.20 1569 shows

MTC2 ~ 16.4K/316683 ~235K 2029 shows

 

As I said skew of MTC1/2 is at Suicide Squad level. 

BW(T-12)

MTC1 Prev - 66333/462524 994450.00 2395 shows.

 

MTC1 Friday(T-13) -  46290/775727 639239.00 3863 shows

 

 

I did not track BW in MTC2 at that time but @Menor did update on 6/29 which was T-9(around 47.5K). That was a normal ratio(F9 was more skewed on MTC2 side). 

 

Shang Chi OD(T-13)

MTC1 - 23238/690312 389887.09 3300 shows

MTC2 ~ 14K/658700 180K 4183 shows

 

Its PS is even more frontloaded than BW was. But that is not a surprise as that movie played wider with a known character. Overall the PS is good. 

 

 

 

 

SC is more frontloaded than BW? 

[charlie Jatinder]

How is Paw Patrol & FG doing @keysersoze123

[charlie Jatinder]

40 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

SC is more frontloaded than BW? 

No, not what we will say frontloaded in general sense. SC pace is good.

 

What Keyser mean is FRI Ps/THU Ps ratio is less than BW. Yes that would be worrying sign but only in final days of sales. For now the numbers are so small, they don't matter that much. 

[Legion Again]

It makes sense to me that a t-12 comp with 6 days would be more Th heavy than one with like 20 days or sales or whatnot.

[charlie Jatinder]

17 minutes ago, Lokis Legion said:

It makes sense to me that a t-12 comp with 6 days would be more Th heavy than one with like 20 days or sales or whatnot.

7 days sales for BW for THU & FRI were
MTC1: $700k & $400K - 57%

MTC2: $390K & $200K - 51%

 

MTC 1 in its first few days had 50% seating, that would have drive some sales to FRI & MTC2.

 

SC

MTC1: $650k & $390k - 60%

MTC2: $240k & $180k - 75%

 

Yep. @Lokis Legion has a point.

Edited August 22, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

Based on MTC 1 and MTC 2, Shang Chi pre-sales so far

THU - $1.7M

FRI - $1.25M

SAT - $0.75M

Rest - $0.5M

 

Total - $4.2M

 

THU is 
87% of BW 6 days of sales - $12.18M

55% of BW T-12 days - $7.7M

 

FRI is
107% of BW 6 days of sales - $28M

60% of BW T-12 days - $15.75M

 

Overall
100% of BW 6 days of sales.
60% of BW T-12 days of sales.

 

Edit - I forget to consider that SC numbers includes Canada but BW didn't. So minus 8% all comps.

Edited August 22, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Menor the Destroyer]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

Shang Chi Previews (T-12)

MTC1 - 37112/319763 635990.20 1569 shows

MTC2 ~ 16.4K/316683 ~235K 2029 shows

 

As I said skew of MTC1/2 is at Suicide Squad level. 

BW(T-12)

MTC1 Prev - 66333/462524 994450.00 2395 shows.

 

MTC1 Friday(T-13) -  46290/775727 639239.00 3863 shows

 

 

I did not track BW in MTC2 at that time but @Menor did update on 6/29 which was T-9(around 47.5K). That was a normal ratio(F9 was more skewed on MTC2 side). 

 

Shang Chi OD(T-13)

MTC1 - 23238/690312 389887.09 3300 shows

MTC2 ~ 14K/658700 180K 4183 shows

 

Its PS is even more frontloaded than BW was. But that is not a surprise as that movie played wider with a known character. Overall the PS is good. 

 

 

 

 

At MTC1 it is more frontloaded. MTC2 is less frontloaded than BW. 

[charlie Jatinder]

3 minutes ago, Menor said:

At MTC1 it is more frontloaded. MTC2 is less frontloaded than BW. 

On risk of sounding a broken record, MTC2 BW was helped by the fact in its first few days of sales MTC1 was still following 50% seating, dropped only after 4-5 days. So those who weren't getting seat, opted for FRI or other chains.

[charlie Jatinder]

17 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Shang Chi Harkins T-13 Days

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	86	25,587	357	1.40%	$4,222	$11.83
Cine 1	16	4,818	532	11.04%	$8,300	$15.60
Cine Capri	4	1,782	35	1.96%	$501	$14.31
IMAX	2	890	96	10.79%	$1,440	$15.00
Total	108	33,077	1,020	3.08%	$14,463	$14.18

 

While tracking I thought it gonna miss 100 seats addition today but it did, selling 108. Nothing specific to say till T-7 days mark I suppose.

 

Shang Chi Harkins T-12 Days

Format	Shows	Capacity	Sold	% Sold	Gross	ATP
Normal	86	25,587	383	1.50%	$4,507	$11.77
Cine 1	16	4,818	564	11.71%	$8,797	$15.60
Cine Capri	4	1,782	41	2.30%	$591	$14.41
IMAX	2	890	104	11.69%	$1,560	$15.00
Total	108	33,077	1,092	3.30%	$15,455	$14.15

 

First day below 100 with, 72 sold today, but nothing out of ordinary I suppose. T-7 days is what matters.

[Porthos]

On 8/20/2021 at 10:45 PM, Porthos said:

 

Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings 

Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-13 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	101	15938	17002	1064	6.26%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

97

 

T-13 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-13	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	38.85		77	2564		0/117	16570/19134	13.40%		5.37m
SC (adj)	----		87	996		0/89	13959/14955	6.66%		----

COMP NOTE: BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: SC (adj) Is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

PRE-SALE NOTE: Black Widow has ten more days of pre-sales than Shang-Chi at this point in its track.

 

Regal: 190/4609 [4.12% sold] [+31 tickets]

 

===

 

Another very strong day of sales.  One caveat, however.  There were a lot of sales at two theaters, including 15 tickets sold at a 10pm showing which was an obvious group sale (nearly an entire row sold today), which likely won't be repeated on other nights.  The caveat to that caveat, however, is even if I dial back those two theaters to a more normal pattern seen elsewhere, Shang-Chi still would have had a very healthy night of around 70 tickets sold.

 

Mostly noting that there was something of a spike in Sacto tonight and don't be surprised if the number tomorrow looks a little lower in comparison.  

 

Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings 

Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-12 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	101	15853	17002	1149	6.76%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

85

 

T-12 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-12	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	40.48		94	2658		0/119	16602/19260	13.80%		5.60m
SC (adj)	----		80	1076		0/89	13879/14955	7.19%		----

COMP NOTE: BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: SC (adj) Is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

PRE-SALE NOTE: Black Widow has ten more days of pre-sales than Shang-Chi at this point in its track.

 

Regal: 211/4609 [4.58% sold] [+21 tickets]

[charlie Jatinder]

So I realised that starting previews at 5PM deflates the gross due to discounted prices at most places before 6PM.

 

In Harkins, BW ATP was $11.5, SC seems like will be $12.75-13.

 

That explain relatively higher ATP for SC in MTCs than BW. So if admits are say 90% of BW, gross may still be 100%.

 

That however change things for previews % for OD. I was surprised with BW previews being just 33.3% of OD. If it started previews at 6, the ratio could have been close to 35-36%.

[Menor the Destroyer]

6 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

So I realised that starting previews at 5PM deflates the gross due to discounted prices at most places before 6PM.

 

In Harkins, BW ATP was $11.5, SC seems like will be $12.75-13.

 

That explain relatively higher ATP for SC in MTCs than BW. So if admits are say 90% of BW, gross may still be 100%.

 

That however change things for previews % for OD. I was surprised with BW previews being just 33.3% of OD. If it started previews at 6, the ratio could have been close to 35-36%.

Other way around. 5pm previews despite lower ATP will sell a significantly higher volume of tickets, especially in the summer. It would be more likely to cannibalize from true Friday.

[Menor the Destroyer]

6 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings 

Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-12 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	101	15853	17002	1149	6.76%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

85

 

T-12 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-12	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
BW	40.48		94	2658		0/119	16602/19260	13.80%		5.60m
SC (adj)	----		80	1076		0/89	13879/14955	7.19%		----

COMP NOTE: BW Comp has been adjusted to reflect the return of Ontario theaters to the DOM market (what would be normally be the comp/0.955).

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: SC (adj) Is the amount of seats sold that does not include the theaters which had unreliable data polluting their seat maps at that point in BW's track.

PRE-SALE NOTE: Black Widow has ten more days of pre-sales than Shang-Chi at this point in its track.

 

Regal: 211/4609 [4.58% sold] [+21 tickets]

Fairly small drop from yesterday despite the group sales you mentioned yesterday. I am expecting this to start accelerating again from tomorrow hopefully.

[CJohn]

Remember when @EmpireCity said I was too low on everything on my "End of Summer" predictions?

 

Lets see how that is going so far...

 

- Paw Patrol - 6M OW

Disaster. I was expecting just 2.700 theaters, but even if I knew about the 3.200 theaters it got instead I would have gone to 10M OW and not more, so that would have still been too low.

 

- The Protege - 3M OW

Right on the money. One for me.

 

- Reminiscence - 5M OW

Too high actually. It will do this in total. 

 

- The Night House - 7M OW

Lmao fucking hell "mostly too low on everything" he said.

 

Next week we have Candyman, for which I predicted 18M OW, and in 2 weeks Shang-Chi (34M 4 day OW). No way Shang-Chi goes above 40M 4 day OW anyway, and everyone might just get used to that. 

Edited August 22, 2021 by CJohn

[charlie Jatinder]

10 minutes ago, Menor said:

Other way around. 5pm previews despite lower ATP will sell a significantly higher volume of tickets, especially in the summer. It would be more likely to cannibalize from true Friday.

Yes if it was selling to capacity but BW was barely 25-30% IIRC. 1 hour less previews will hardly make any impact on the people watching the film but have 1 of 3 shows them watch with discounted price is gonna impact the gross.

[john2000]

8 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Remember when @EmpireCity said I was too low on everything on my "End of Summer" predictions?

 

Lets see how that is going so far...

 

- Paw Patrol - 6M OW

Disaster. I was expecting just 2.700 theaters, but even if I knew about the 3.200 theaters it got instead I would have gone to 10M OW and not more, so that would have still been too low.

 

- The Protege - 3M OW

Right on the money. One for me.

 

- Reminiscence - 5M OW

Too high actually. It will do this in total. 

 

- The Night House - 7M OW

Lmao fucking hell "mostly too low on everything" he said.

 

Next week we have Candyman, for which I predicted 18M OW, and in 2 weeks Shang-Chi (34M 4 day OW). No way Shang-Chi goes above 40M 4 day OW anyway, and everyone might just get used to that. 

So for shang chi you just ignore what the data says to us to fit your own narrative .....ok...