MORBIUS | April 1 2022 | Sony | Returns to 1000+ theaters June 3rd because we live in a simulation

[Legion Again]

Well hey, at least the SSU finally has a clear identity  

[Macleod]

2 hours ago, VENOM said:

Grace had a lot of fun, I think this will be another Venom. Split the critics but be popular with audiences 

 

 

Why do you care what this crazy woman thinks?  And to be clear, my emphasis here is on "crazy" -- I have nothing against her as a woman.  But it's not like she has a doctorate in superhero movies (and yes, that can be a real thing), she's just someone who got lucky with a YouTube channel and a few "connections."  She's not even a real journalist, nor a real "film critic."  She literally came from comic book work.  

Edited March 31, 2022 by Macleod

[SpiderByte]

Unfortunately for them theyve already started filming Kraven.

[Knights of Ren]

Y'all are being a little dramatic.  This movie will still probably easily get Sony a profit regardless of the terrible scores.  Sony's not gonna drop all of their plans because of critic opinions, just look at venom. 

[DefenderD]

 

1 hour ago, grey ghost said:

Sony's plan for 50 Spider-man villain spin offs is in danger.

 

They desperately need some different IP's. 

They want to sell a villain team-up when they've been portraying their villains (besides Keaton) as anything but "sinister". 

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Also, it's weird that Keaton's character seems to be the Nick Fury of the team. You would think Gyllenhaal's Mysterio would be more apt for that role, they wouldn't even need to show his face.

 

Edited March 31, 2022 by DefenderD

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

39 minutes ago, Knights of Ren said:

 Sony's not gonna drop all of their plans because of critic opinions, just look at venom. 

But they should

 

And there's a difference between breaking even/profit and making profit like Venom-what, over 250m theatrically and probably 100m or so with ancillaries 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

On 3/29/2022 at 2:51 PM, AnotherDayAnotherDollar said:

O/U 20% RT score when it's all said and done?

 

Now that we have almost 60 reviews in I feel it's a good time to ask this question again. 

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

How much is this even looking to finish with WW? 250-300m? 

 

With the budget reportedly as low as it is, 190m is the range or so. But still, Sony isn't making this for penny investments. They want a universe. And with meager profits at best, terrible reviews, and very likely mediocre audience reception.. it's looking like a swing and a miss here

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

23 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

How much is this even looking to finish with WW? 250-300m? 

 

With the budget reportedly as low as it is, 190m is the range or so. But still, Sony isn't making this for penny investments. They want a universe. And with meager profits at best, terrible reviews, and very likely mediocre audience reception.. it's looking like a swing and a miss here

 

Sony is still predicting a ROIC of 6.8% on SPE for this FY, which includes NWH. The TV side also has higher margins than the movie side. SPE is the lowest ROIC division in the entity and the reason a lot of stockholders want to see them divest it, but Sony will be happy with any type of profit for this movie. The reason the budget is not lower than 75MM is because that is the lowest it has to be as per the contract. To your point they want a universe so they can try and bring that division up to the level of the others. They want their own MCU.

[Krissykins]

4 hours ago, belblazer said:

People here are obsessed in putting WW84 in this kind of discussion when it was nowhere near dragged as the movies cited here.

 

Grace just liked the movie, and that's ok?

 

Especially when Marvel’s very own “Eternals” is right there lol

[Andy]

Giving the Mummy (2017) 

[SupermanLego]

3 hours ago, Knights of Ren said:

Y'all are being a little dramatic.  This movie will still probably easily get Sony a profit regardless of the terrible scores.  Sony's not gonna drop all of their plans because of critic opinions, just look at venom. 

Venom the MOST iconic Spidey Villain Which had 200+m from China to help it vs one of the most inconsequential Spidey villian. It's like comparing Joker vs The Condiment King

[fmpro]

9 hours ago, ImNotRacistAtAll said:

 

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Are they worth? 

 

I saw the mid credits online (they leaked) and found it awful. Just a feeling of rush and desperation of  trying to build a Sinister Six teamup to fight Spider-Man because yes. Morbius doesn't even know Spider-Man and he accepts it. Vulture gets to that place and has a suit ready to go. 

 

Avengers is amazing because it was built through good movies. Took their time to build these characters. Makes us care. Make us like them. Make us feel interested. 

 

Morbius just looks awful like you say it is. I have no desire to see it. I disliked the Venom movies. A lot. Just the fact that they took this...without logic and cheap route and put Vulture in that universe, just makes my eyes roll. Like, really? You put Vulture there (which alone contradicts a lotta stuff in itself) and he instantly gets a suit, finds Morbius, already knows him and wants to go after Spider-Man when they ended in good terms in Homecoming? Morbius says YES to this stranger to team up and go after someone he has no idea or motive to go after. 

 

All this nonsense, just makes me not excited for this cheap Sinister Six of B level characters (when we just had a version in NWH with iconic versions of characters). Is Sony now gonna say that Mysterio is alive and by the hands of god have him teleport to? LMFAO. It's just crazy to me. 

 

As a fan, I have massive issues with this. They are just so... clear and right there that it's just embarrassing. 

 

Is this another race to a teamup like DC did? 

 

And like...are all their movies gonna be rotten?? I mean... painfully mediocre?

 

Kraven sounds like another one. A movie a with a terribly mediocre creative team behind, with a big star in  front and a 70-90M budget that is apparent in the trailers IMO. Already my prediction. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with everything you say. But the single thing that made it worth for me was this

 

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Sinister Six buildup. Could have been alot better as you say. But just to know that its coming. And if Spiderman is in it, Feige is in it. That gives me hope. Because Sony can`t hold a candle to MCU and this turd confirms it again

 

[Halba]

not a fan of jared leto. over rated actor that hollywood seem to keep pushing, dallas buyers club was uncomfortable viewing despite getting oscars. Joker didnt pan out either- he was a poor joker.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Halba

[Legion Again]

14 minutes ago, Halba said:

not a fan of jared leto. over rated actor that hollywood seem to keep pushing, dallas buyers club was uncomfortable viewing despite getting oscars. Joker didnt pan out either- he was a poor joker.

This movie is the polar opposite of your profile pic

[AJG]

34 minutes ago, Halba said:

not a fan of jared leto. over rated actor that hollywood seem to keep pushing, dallas buyers club was uncomfortable viewing despite getting oscars. Joker didnt pan out either- he was a poor joker.

I tried to give Leto the benefit of the doubt when it came to Joker. He didn’t choose the makeup and design. He didn’t write the dialogue or direct the movie, BUT that scene at the end of ZSJL killed any doubt I had left. Dude sucked.

 

4 hours ago, Krissykins said:

 

Especially when Marvel’s very own “Eternals” is right there lol

Eternals is less boring than WW84 but both are quite boring. Eternals is saved by the action scenes the WW84 lacked. Also the first WW is the best DCEU film so for there to be such a decline in quality between the original and the sequel was really shocking. Like going from Batman Returns to Batman Forever.

[Legion Again]

Why are we comparing bad movie to good movie in a thread that is not about either movie?

Edited March 31, 2022 by Villain Legion

[SpiderByte]

Those 30 million estimates are looking real over optimistic now.

[efialtes76]

$75M with so many delays?

The budget is bigger.

[Grebacio]

14 minutes ago, efialtes76 said:

$75M with so many delays?

The budget is bigger.

I think production costs weren't affected by delays, but marketing costs were