4-day Weekend Thread: 5-day numbers per BOM - TLJ 99.0M, J:WTTJ 55.4M, PP3 26.4M, TGS 14.4M, F 10.1M, C 8.2M, D 7.7M and an incredible $5,480,000 for Father Figures

[fabiopazzo2]

1 hour ago, ACSlater said:

Am I the only one more excited about infinity war?

You... are not... alone

[DAR]

I think Father Figures shows us the might of Terry Bradshaw 

[Fancyarcher]

49 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Jumanji did over our equivalent of 16M at my theatre today  

 

Star Wars - $33.4M

Downsizing - $2.9M

Father Figures - $ ($1.1M)

I see Father Figures has made a real "splash" at your cinema. 

[Chewy]

4 minutes ago, Rebeccas said:

Would be hilarious if they fired Rian Johnson from his trilogy and replaced him with Colin Trevorrow. At a certain point, the fired directors circle has to be complete! 

 

For maximum hilarity the person to hire is Snyder

[Taruseth]

1 hour ago, The Greatest Rth said:

TLJ 25.5,J 12.8, PP3 11.2,TGS 3.2, F 2.9, D 2.3,C 2, FF 1.5

Let's see what happens today.

Didn't expected Jumanji to be that strong.

Didn't Deadline expected Coco at 2.9mi that would be brutal in comparison.

 

With that 25,5 Mio Friday what is the possible range for TLJ for the 3-(&4-)Day Weekend?

Something like 25,5+27,5+13= 66 Mio up to 25.5 + 30 + 16.5 = 72 Mio.

[a2k]

FATHER FIGURES (2017)

[Orestes]

Deadline must've forgotten to take into account folks staying home to watch Bright when they made that TLJ prediction.

[Sal]

I wonder if deadline was overcorrecting with Coco after having it come in over their estimates several times.  Of course their calculation problem was sunday drops not friday jumps.  It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, though I really hope that number goes up at least a little bit.

[DAJK]

15 minutes ago, Fancyarcher said:

I see Father Figures has made a real "splash" at your cinema. 

Honestly thought it might. My dumbass town (not to shit on where I live but just based on some of their movie preferences over the past few years) would usually gobble this kind of stuff up and ask for seconds.

[Fancyarcher]

2 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Honestly thought it might. My dumbass town (not to shit on where I live but just based on some of their movie preferences over the past few years) would usually gobble this kind of stuff up and ask for seconds.

They were instantly sold on that amazing poster.

[BadAtGender]

28 minutes ago, Chewy said:

 

For maximum hilarity the person to hire is Snyder

 

Snyder would make a pretty awesome Star Wars film. He's got a great visual sense and likes to play with some deeper, darker themes. Plus, in the SW franchise, he wouldn't have the final say on scripting and storytelling decisions, which would probably reign in some of his more questionable pacing problems.

[BK007]

4 hours ago, narniadis said:

@a2knet not arguing that they shouldn't have greenlit the movie - on paper it all sounded good. The question ultimately should have been - should we. Lone Ranger was one IP that just wasn't ready to come back into the mainstream at least not with a 200m+ budget.  And this comes from someone who loves the film and would have loved to have gotten a sequel.

 

Back then no one could have predicted that Depp would tank so badly as a leading man or that the film would run into many other issues not the least of which was a crazy summer with bigger hits that ultimately just overshadowed it.

 

I'm pretty sure loads of people predicted it would do badly.

 

It's one of those films like King Arthur, where you watch the trailer and think to yourself, "Do they think this will make money?"

 

 

[DeeCee]

25 minutes ago, Orestes said:

Deadline must've forgotten to take into account folks staying home to watch Bright when they made that TLJ prediction.

I went to my 3rd viewing of TLJ and then watched Bright. 

[Sam]

4 minutes ago, DameronRoc said:

 

Snyder would make a pretty awesome Star Wars film. He's got a great visual sense and likes to play with some deeper, darker themes. Plus, in the SW franchise, he wouldn't have the final say on scripting and storytelling decisions, which would probably reign in some of his more questionable pacing problems.

Woo boy. 

 

Be ready for them very deep, dark Pa Kent/Martha themes in Star Wars, @Chewy. You asked for it.

 

Now that I said that, I do kinda want to see it.

[BK007]

Also, Coco overestimated by 33% by Deadline. What a fucking farce of a website. 33%!

 

 

[Porthos]

New estimates from Deadline:

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Estimates as of late Friday night for the weekend of Dec. 22-25:

1.  Star Wars: The Last Jedi  (DIS), 4,232 theaters / $27.1M Fri (-74%)/3-day cume: $83M (-62%)/4-day: $112.7M/Total:$409.2M/ Wk 2

2.  Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle  (SONY), 3,765 theaters / $12.4M Fri /3-day cume: $33.3M/4-day: $45.9M/Total: $62.3M/ Wk 1

3. Pitch Perfect 3  (UNI), 3,447 theaters / $10.7M Fri  (includes $2.1M previews)/3-day cume: $25.4M/4-day: $35M/ Wk 1

4. The Greatest Showman  (FOX), 3,006 theaters / $3.2M Fri /3-day cume: $8.7M/4-day: $13.5M/Total: $18.3M/Wk 1

5. Coco(DIS), 2,111 theaters (-1,044) / Fri: $2.4M / 3-day cume: $7.1M (-28%)/4-day: $9.8M/Total: $165.9M / Wk 5

6. Ferdinand  (FOX), 3,630 theaters (+9) / $2.9M Fri (-19%)/3-day cume: $7.2M(-46%)/4-day: $9.1M/Total: $28.6M/ Wk 2

7.Downsizing  (PAR), 2,668 theaters / $2.3M Fri /3-day cume: $6.3M/4-day: $8.7M/ Wk 1

8. Darkest Hour (FOC), 806 theaters (+722)/ $1.27M Fri /3-day cume: $3.3M (+294%) /4-day: $5.3M/Total: $8.1M/ Wk 5

9. Father Figures (ALC/WB), 2,902 theaters / $1.38M Fri /3-day cume: $3.3M/4-day: $5M/ Wk 1

10. Wonder (Lionsgate), 1,130 theaters (-1917)/$1.1M Fri /3-day cume: $3M (-41%)/4-day: $4.2M/ Total: $117.1M/Wk 5

11. The Shape of Water  (FSL), 726 theaters (+568) / $900K Fri /3-day cume: $2.4M (+40%) /4-day: $3.9M /Total: $8.4M/Wk 4

NOTABLES:

The Post  (FOX), 9 theaters / $180K Fri/3-day cume: $542k /PTA: $60K /4-day: $784k/ Wk 1

 

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A brief assessment of the top grossers and openers:

Star Wars: The Last Jedi ($83M 3-day, $112.7M 4-day): Continues to pace behind 2015’s Force Awakens (-28%) and significantly ahead of last year’s Rogue One  (+29%) by Monday as many expected. Is the Star Wars pic taking too much air out of the holiday box office? Some will say ‘No’ and point to the robust openings for Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle and Pitch Perfect 3. However, if we compare the 4-day holiday’s present projections to the same period a year ago, last year looked so much better with 7 titles grossing north of $11M; this year there’s only four titles that grossed double digit or more. Some will blame that annual erosion on Christmas Eve falling on a Sunday. Still with Disney and Fox merging, studios will have to shrewedly counterprogram either a Star Wars movie or an Avatar sequel in the years to come. Next December we get a break so to speak with Warner Bros. Aquaman. But 2019 has Star Wars: Episode IX (Dec. 20), 2020 has Avatar 2 (Dec. 18), and 2021 has Avatar 3 (Dec. 17). There are currently no huge live event titles scheduled for 2022 and 2023 yet, but December Avatars will continue in 2024 and 2025.

Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (3-day cume: $33.3M/4-day: $45.9M/6-day: $62.3M) : At this point in time looks to hit that industry tracking number of $60M-plus by Christmas after a Friday that was +65%. Like Sing a year ago, it’s a new solid piece of counterprogramming to Last Jedi, the film that everyone goes to see after they’ve overdosed on Star Wars. We detail here how Sony and producer Matt Tolmach pulled off a second Jumanji movie after the studio tried to make one for the last 22 years.  Sony says they only spent $90M net before P&A on this movie. Others tell me that’s crazy talk, especially for a VFX event title, and that it’s around $110M net after Hawaii and Atlanta tax credits which came in under $15M. Still, there are those in the industry who give high praise to Sony for the Jumanji sequel at that budget: “That’s every economical for an event film. If any other studio like Warner Bros. did this film, they would have spent over $170M, easy” cried one film finance suit.

Pitch Perfect 3 (3-day cume: $25.4M/4-day: $35M): Was always going to play like a threequel. While they advertised it as the final one, it will be interesting to see if Uni spins it off into future installments, especially if it pulls off a 4x multiple. At 65% fresh, critics tolerated the 2015 sequel directed by Elizabeth Banks, and the studio made a lot of noise about her attachment as director. However, she dropped off the threequel. She only makes a cameo here with Trish Sie taking over the directing reigns. Still, the movie gets an A- CinemaScore tonight, which is the same grade it reaped off its previous two chapters. Nonetheless, in the shadow of Last Jedi, it’s franchise that’s providing an option to younger females, who are the smallest quadrant of Last Jedi. 

 

The Greatest Showman (3-day $8.7M/4-day: $13.5M/6-day: $18.3M): The film is barely making it to $20M over six days as of this minute, but with a 73% female audience, it’s competing with Pitch Perfect 3 and 42% females (mothers) watching Jumanji. The biggest plus for this film is its solid A word of mouth and Golden Globe nominations which will hopefully give it a slow burn versus some of the other fare in the marketplace. Here’s the thing: There was a lot of mixed signals from Fox in their marketing in regards to what exactly this Hugh Jackman original period musical about P.T. Barnum exactly was, and who it was aimed for. Sitting through their dazzling showstopper CinemaCon presentation, it was clear then that this was Fox’s La La Land awards season chip with songs from that pic’s Oscar winning team of Benj Pasek and Justin Paul. But as we got deeper into awards season Fox got cold feet, and we hear that’s because they knew the critics weren’t going to warm to the pic (now at 50% Rotten). As a result, Fox skipped doing any type of presentation for the movie at TIFF like they did with the music from Hidden Figures a year ago. Word is that they didn’t know if they were going to sell Greatest Showman as a family film (but they already had one in the market, Ferdinand) or go after the older, Broadway crowd. In the tail end, Fox got clever: They did a live commercial for the film during the Fox’s A Christmas Story Live (which is aimed at both families and Broadway lovers) of Pete Hammond calls it a four-quadrant family musical. Also, after sitting out of many awards season races this season, Greatest Showman picked up a best musical/comedy pic nom, best actor nom for Jackman and best song (“This Is Me”) at the Golden Globes.

Downsizing ($6.3M/4-day: $8.7M) Paramount launched three ambitious movies during the fall film festival circuits which were obvious risky box office propositions: the audacious mother! ($17.8M), the confusing and sleepy Suburbicon ($5.7M) and this befuddling absurdist comedy from Alexander Payne. It’s arguably the director’s first critical (and largely commercial) dud. When a Payne movie is great, it’s platformed during awards season, and the fact that Paramount is going very wide with this at 2,668 theaters and a RT score of 52% Rotten means they have to get whatever portion of their $68M production cost back as soon as possible. Payne has made relatable comedies before that resonate, read Sideways and The Descendants, but this offbeat title about the middle age lives of people who prefer to shrink themselves is all over the map at 2 hours and 15 minute. A source close to production told Deadline that the film was trying to be found in the editing room.  The one bright spot for the film during awards season has been Hong Chau who has picked up best supporting actress nominations for the Globes, SAGs, and Critics’ Choice.

Looks like about six minutes ago. 

 

Edited December 23, 2017 by Porthos

[aabattery]

Deadline more like DeadLIES.

 

#IStandWithRth

[Krissykins]

Yeesh at that Star Wars drop, not good (RTH numbers)

 

Could become the biggest second weekend drop for a #1 film in the whole of 2017. (Aside from Alien Covenant), 

 

Great for Jumanji. Good increase for Pitch Perfect, but looks like half of the last film. 

Edited December 23, 2017 by Krissykins

[Biggestgeekever]

That's certainly a better number for TLJ than Rth had, though I'm not sure it'll hit the 35% Sat increase necessary to match their weekend projection.

[Porthos]

In other words, buckle up folks! Gonna be a roller-coaster of a weekend.