Weekend Thread (11/12-14) | Eternals 7.82 Fri, Clifford 4.22

[TwoMisfits]

Actuals coming in - Eternals down $650K, from $27.5M estimate to $26.85M actual...

 

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		Movie	Distr	Gross	%LW	Thr	Thr Chng	Per Thr	Total Gross	W
1	(1)	Eternals	Walt Disney	$26,850,128	-62%	4,090	n/c	$6,565	$118,115,383	2
2	N	Clifford the Big Red Dog	Paramount…	$16,420,000		3,700		$4,438	$22,000,775	1
3	(2)	Dune	Warner Bros.	$5,543,008	-29%	3,282	-264	$1,689	$93,169,291	4
4	(3)	No Time to Die	United Ar…	$4,620,862	-23%	2,867	-140	$1,612	$150,476,875	6
5	(4)	Venom: Let There be C…	Sony Pict…	$3,925,000	-12%	2,538	-102	$1,546	$202,632,190	7
6	(5)	Ron’s Gone Wrong	20th Cent…	$2,189,294	-39%	2,430	-220	$901	$20,774,714	4
8	N	Belfast	Focus Fea…	$1,779,410		580		$3,068	$1,779,410	1
7	(6)	The French Dispatch	Searchlig…	$1,760,125	-32%	1,225	+20	$1,437	$11,534,695	4
9	(8)	Spencer	Neon	$1,520,855	-28%	1,265	+269	$1,202	$4,700,176	2
-	(9)	Antlers	Searchlig…	$1,128,911	-43%	1,825	-975	$619	$9,567,445	3
-	(7)	Halloween Kills	Universal	$1,049,275	-55%	1,994	-1,104	$526	$91,426,450	5
-	(10)	Last Night in Soho	Focus Fea…	$839,355	-53%	1,341	-1,675	$626	$9,366,235	3
-	(-)	Shang-Chi and the Leg…	Walt Disney	$225,745	-63%	335	-105	$674	$224,382,449	11
-	(-)	The Last Duel	20th Cent…	$111,380	-17%	250	+30	$446	$10,697,009	5
-	(-)	Free Guy	20th Cent…	$46,528	-37%	85	-10	$547	$121,569,820	14
-	(-)	Dear Evan Hansen	Universal	$30,726	+2%	175	-45	$176	$14,985,266	8
-	N	Julia	Sony Pict…	$18,010		5		$3,602	$18,010	1
-	(-)	Jungle Cruise	Walt Disney	$17,605	-46%	60	-15	$293	$116,974,893	16
-	(-)	The Souvenir Part II	A24	$14,455	-65%	42	+27	$344	$98,929	3
-	N	What do we See When w…	MUBI	$11,468		2		$5,734	$11,468	1
-	(-)	Wife of a Spy	Kino Lorber	$4,669	+189%	3	n/c	$1,556	$68,052	9
-	(-)	Mass	Bleecker …	$2,935	-46%	13	-24	$226	$142,931	6
-	(-)	The Beta Test	IFC Films	$2,675	-85%	11	-14	$243	$27,252	2
-	(-)	Délicieux	Mongrel M…	$2,579	-14%	11	+2	$234	$243,777	10
-	(-)	I’m Your Man	Bleecker …	$1,775	-10%	7	+4	$254	$270,244	8
-	(-)	Bergman Island	IFC Films	$1,637	-54%	7	-2	$234	$144,176	5
-	(-)	Breathless	Rialto Pi…	$1,389	+27%	2	n/c	$695	$46,339	3,171
-	(-)	On Broadway	Kino Lorber	$1,246		1		$1,246	$82,326	13
-	(-)	The Lost Leonardo	Sony Pict…	$1,206	+147%	5	+2	$241	$445,294	14
-	(-)	The Laws Of The Unive…	Entertain…	$762	+64%	1	n/c	$762	$15,444	4
-	(-)	Luzzu	Kino Lorber	$533	-57%	2	-1	$267	$32,433	5
-	(-)	Golden Voices	Music Box…	$174	-83%	2	-4	$87	$28,210	6
-	(-)	Petite fille	Music Box…	$45		1		$45	$9,668	9
		33		$68,123,765

[Lighthouse]

Spencer flopping as expected.

People predicting huge numbers for that gucci movie Lol

[Coldbird]

Why didnt they just call it "Diana"? The normal population does not know what spencer stansd for and the poster is also not clear whats about. But everybody would knew what "Diana" would be about. If you are already milking off a tragedy and the life of somebody than whats the point being so vague about it.

[SchumacherFTW]

6 minutes ago, Coldbird said:

Why didnt they just call it "Diana"? The normal population does not know what spencer stansd for and the poster is also not clear whats about. But everybody would knew what "Diana" would be about. If you are already milking off a tragedy and the life of somebody than whats the point being so vague about it.

Because a terrible film called Diana came out a couple of years ago

[Ronin46]

16 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Spencer flopping as expected.

People predicting huge numbers for that gucci movie Lol

 So what do you think Gucci will make?

[grim22]

48 minutes ago, Coldbird said:

Why didnt they just call it "Diana"? The normal population does not know what spencer stansd for and the poster is also not clear whats about. But everybody would knew what "Diana" would be about. If you are already milking off a tragedy and the life of somebody than whats the point being so vague about it.

 

[narniadis]

That Sunday hold was always way over optimistic on Disney's part. The overall hold considering word of mouth and such is actually solid, all things considered. 

[dudalb]

On 11/14/2021 at 11:56 AM, SpiderByte said:

I've seen Belfast and it's definitely got what it takes to be a winner. When it gets ninated it'll benefit a lot from the post nomination boost.

 

If the early reviews are indicitive, then Licorice Pizza might well be in mortal combat with Belfast for the BP.

[Hilderic]

2 hours ago, SchumacherFTW said:

Because a terrible film called Diana came out a couple of years ago

8 years, actually. Time flies.

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

2 hours ago, Coldbird said:

Why didnt they just call it "Diana"? The normal population does not know what spencer stansd for and the poster is also not clear whats about. But everybody would knew what "Diana" would be about. If you are already milking off a tragedy and the life of somebody than whats the point being so vague about it.

As others have pointed out, the title was used less than a decade ago for busted Oscar bait.

 

The audience likely to seek out a Princess Diana movie (people who watch The Crown and liked Downton Abbey and The Queen, for starters) would absolutely know what her maiden name was. It's just that that audience hasn't been coming back to theaters in big numbers, and aren't very likely to warm to Pablo Larrain's filmmaking. The Crown just had a Diana who went over very well, and the set photos of Elizabeth Debicki for next season don't help in the comparison department.

 

Also, my experience online with The Crown fandom and royalty discussions in general is that there's still a strong rejection of the idea of Kristen Stewart as an acclaimed actress. I've seen this everywhere outside of Film Twitter for a while, but with the combination of this performer and the Diana role in particular... Point out that critics have been in her corner for years now or the awards she's won and they just refuse to accept it, and insist she's a bad actress and the good reviews are all from her PR. Even some who've seen her indie work are like, "She's fine in a narrow range but I really don't get why critics are so in love with her." I've never seen anything like it, Pattinson gets some hate about Twilight still but the attitude toward Stewart is on another level.

 

Even without Covid, I think Spencer finding much more of an audience than Jackie was always a challenge.

 

Edited November 16, 2021 by BoxOfficeFangrl

[SpiderByte]

18 minutes ago, dudalb said:

If the early reviews are indicitive, then Licorice Pizza might well be in mortal combat with Belfast for the BP.

Possibly, but from what I've heard about Licorice Pizza Belfast is the more "mainstream audience" of the two, so it'll benefit more box office wise 

[filmlover]

At the food store earlier at least half the magazine covers near the checkout counter had Diana and stories related to her on them. There was also CNN documentary series about her these past few weeks in addition to depictions of her in The Crown, Spencer, that Netflix musical thing, etc. Hell, that 50th Anniversary of Disney World TV special last month even carved out time to talk about her August 1993 trip with Harry and William there! Good luck to any project trying to stand out when pop culture is being completely oversaturated with Diana content at the moment.

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

At the food store earlier at least half the magazine covers near the checkout counter had Diana and stories related to her on them. There was also CNN documentary series about her these past few weeks in addition to depictions of her in The Crown, Spencer, that Netflix musical thing, etc. Hell, that 50th Anniversary of Disney World TV special last month even carved out time to talk about her August 1993 trip with Harry and William there! Good luck to any project trying to stand out when pop culture is being completely oversaturated with Diana content at the moment.

Princess Diana, Vampire Hunter? An AU movie where Diana lives would probably get a lot of blowback but at least it would be something different than another, "Behind closed doors, she was mistreated and struggling with her mental health, did you know that?" depiction. I mean, I'll still watch it but Larrain being lauded for saying something new about Diana is a real eye roller. I mean, Diana herself gave interviews revealing this and she's been dead 24 years. Some critics come out of Spencer acting like the only Diana depictions out there are like this:

 

 

Apparently, there were dueling network TV movies about the royal love affair, lol.

*

It's just so weird to see part of the box office back to "normal" yet other parts are majorly struggling still.

 

[Flopped]

6 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Spencer flopping as expected.

People predicting huge numbers for that gucci movie Lol

 

Spencer flopping is no surprise. It's a slog with Kristen Stewart whispering in a wig (Americans resort to whispering when it comes to accents since they can't do them) and never for one second making you believe she's Diana. Only the DP deserves praise. 

[SchumacherFTW]

6 hours ago, Hilderic said:

8 years, actually. Time flies.

Thanks for making me feel old 😑

[charlie Jatinder]

1/4th of Dune box office is from Canada now.

Edited November 16, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Krissykins]

4 hours ago, Flopped said:

 

Spencer flopping is no surprise. It's a slog with Kristen Stewart whispering in a wig (Americans resort to whispering when it comes to accents since they can't do them) and never for one second making you believe she's Diana. Only the DP deserves praise. 

Oh I disagree. It’s the best film performance I’ve seen all year. No one is topping Kate Winslet in Mare of Easttown, but that was TV. 
 

Kristen gives a 5 star performance in a 3 star film, IMO. 

[Krissykins]

8 hours ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

As others have pointed out, the title was used less than a decade ago for busted Oscar bait.

 

The audience likely to seek out a Princess Diana movie (people who watch The Crown and liked Downton Abbey and The Queen, for starters) would absolutely know what her maiden name was. It's just that that audience hasn't been coming back to theaters in big numbers, and aren't very likely to warm to Pablo Larrain's filmmaking. The Crown just had a Diana who went over very well, and the set photos of Elizabeth Debicki for next season don't help in the comparison department.

 

Also, my experience online with The Crown fandom and royalty discussions in general is that there's still a strong rejection of the idea of Kristen Stewart as an acclaimed actress. I've seen this everywhere outside of Film Twitter for a while, but with the combination of this performer and the Diana role in particular... Point out that critics have been in her corner for years now or the awards she's won and they just refuse to accept it, and insist she's a bad actress and the good reviews are all from her PR. Even some who've seen her indie work are like, "She's fine in a narrow range but I really don't get why critics are so in love with her." I've never seen anything like it, Pattinson gets some hate about Twilight still but the attitude toward Stewart is on another level.

 

Even without Covid, I think Spencer finding much more of an audience than Jackie was always a challenge.

 

I’d say Spencer paints the Royal family in a (deservedly) worse and dread filled light than, I’d assume, The Crown does. 
 

I got the impression from my screening that the older people in the audience weren’t expecting it. 

[Flopped]

5 hours ago, Krissykins said:

Oh I disagree. It’s the best film performance I’ve seen all year. No one is topping Kate Winslet in Mare of Easttown, but that was TV. 
 

Kristen gives a 5 star performance in a 3 star film, IMO. 

 

Oh yeah, Kate Winslet in Mare EATS Kristen and everyone else alive. 

[Last Man Standing]

7 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

1/4th of Dune box office is from Canada now.

Canada still doesn't get HBO Max right? That would explain it.