The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[BOfficeStats]

52 minutes ago, Eric Bonaparte said:

Well...shit. If Napoleon really does land and Color Purple succeeds, stuff like Holdovers and Poor Things do solid for platform releases...maybe people are finally moving away from NTCs after all.

NTCs?

[interiorgatordecorator]

17 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

The first trailer got 33 million views. That's superhero movies number. Trailer views ain't everything but clearly some real interest exists.

 

maybe just my imagination, but it sure feels like everything is getting big trailer views there days 

[HummingLemon496]

Joker made Phoenix super popular

Edited November 22, 2023 by HummingLemon496

[BadOlCatSylvester]

2 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

maybe just my imagination, but it sure feels like everything is getting big trailer views there days 

Ad views count, and a lot of movie trailers are used as such.

[lorddemaxus]

It does seem like Phoenix has become a geniune draw after Joker. Beau is Afraid had the 2nd largest PTA of the year and this is going to be a decent hit.

[Eric is Anxious]

49 minutes ago, BOfficeStats said:

NTCs?

Spoiler

Nostalgic Toy Commercial. Didn't feel like writing out the whole thing lol

 

[Legion Again]

Najor Theater Chain

[MovieMan89]

Not Timothee Chalamet 

[HummingLemon496]

Not Tom Cruise

[Borobudur]

25 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Not Timothee Chalamet 

Naked Timnothee Chalamet

[Grand Cine]

3 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Wish MTC1

Tuesday - 38872/392599 562292.08 2597 shows

Wednesday - 41240/728718 553252.58 4779 shows

 

~1.7m previews going by Encanto comps. Its possible Encanto did better overall considering it was better received and probably would have played more diverse as well. But Wish will come on its own tomorrow. I expect it to win the weekend overall despite finishing below Napoleon today.  

 

Edit: this does not include early shows. Studios seem to keep them out of previews. They seem to be added to Friday shows number based on TMNT or MI7. 

The Wednesday continue to be good :

 

Wish (T-2):

Wednesday - 27557/680570 376089.33 4366 shows +5860

 

Trolls 3 :

Friday (T-1) - 24520/607494 349759.46 4099 shows +4531
Friday - 34961/608443 496361.99 4115 shows

 

Elemental MTC1 Friday - 43508/593644 600614.84 4256 shows

 

Trolls 3 played like Elemental in the final day and Wish ,yesterday, had better pace than Trolls 3 so i think 8,5-9M true Wednesday , 10,2-10,7 with Tuesday previews so i think, if the movie will have bad WOM , 42-45M 5 Days OW, if it's better maybe 50M is possible

[Hilts]

On 11/17/2023 at 11:34 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Wish (T-4):

Day: T-4, T-1	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Tuesday: 20 theaters	102	67	260	12149	2.14
Saturday Nov 18 EA: 9 theaters	9	112	281	1100	25.55
TOTALS:	111	179	541	13249	4.08

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		5	5	0.92
MTC1:		249	69	46.03
Marcus:		110	37	20.33
Alamo:		7	4	1.29
Other chains:		175	69	32.35

 

Tuesday Comps:

1.35x Haunted Mansion (THU): $4.18 Million

0.3x Paw Patrol (FRI): $2.03 Million

2.3x Trolls: Band Together: $2.64 Million

 

Average: $2.95 Million

 

EA Comp:

0.29x Trolls: Band Together Saturday EA: $290k (assuming 1 million that has been thrown around in this thread, reallyyyyyyy hope we can get a Trolls EA number... @Shawn any luck for this??)

0.43x MI7 SUN + MON EA: $850k

0.24x Barbie EA: $260k

 

Wish's EA seems like it'll be way lower than Trolls, a lot less interest for that. Pegging it at around $250-500k. For Tuesday? Well I just lost the TMNT comp, which was far and away the best one so.... don't think I'll be of much help with this one sadly.

 

Napoleon (T-4):

Day: T-4	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 19 theaters	62	134	406	8960	4.53

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		276	100	67.98
MTC1:		195	59	48.03
Marcus:		95	30	23.4
Alamo:		46	9	11.33
Other chains:		70	36	17.24

 

Comps:

0.6x KOFM: $1.57 Million

1.69x The Creator (THU): $2.28 Million

0.15x Oppy: $1.59 Million

0.3x MI7 (just TUE): $2.1 Million

 

Average: $1.89 Million

 

Keeps on rising, looking close at that MI7 comp since the weekend being in the middle of these final days always throws a wrench into the pace of things. But not too shabby, all things considered.

 

8 hours ago, Shawn said:

The studio has been mum on the EA number so far, unfortunately; they only confirmed that $1.3 million was from Thursday and that EA was included somewhere in the weekend numbers.

 

7 hours ago, Bob Train said:

Deadline listed it as 1.1m in their article, but it appears to have not been rolled into the OW unlike other recent movies.

 

https://deadline.com/2023/11/box-office-hunger-games-songbirds-and-snakes-1235616095/

  

 

Trolls EA $1.17m?

 

Looking at Mojo and Numbers they didn't seem to roll it into the weekend as total gross is different from 3 day total.

 

Date	Rank	Gross	% Change	Theaters	Per Theater	Total Gross	Week
Nov 17, 2023	2	$30,002,525		3,870	$7,753	$31,172,525	1

Edited November 22, 2023 by Hilts

[Brainbug]

Could be my delusional history fan nerd soul talking, but between Oppenheimer beeing a massive hit, KOTFM doing quite respectable numbers and now Napoleon looking like a potential small breakout - maybe people are gaining interest again in historical movies/epics like in the early 2000s?

 

I for one would welcome that development.

[TomThomas]

2 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

maybe just my imagination, but it sure feels like everything is getting big trailer views there days 

Look at views/likes ratio, it shows real interest or if it's just ads views.

[titanic2187]

2 hours ago, Brainbug said:

Could be my delusional history fan nerd soul talking, but between Oppenheimer beeing a massive hit, KOTFM doing quite respectable numbers and now Napoleon looking like a potential small breakout - maybe people are gaining interest again in historical movies/epics like in the early 2000s?

 

I for one would welcome that development.

Nah, it is just superhero genre flopping so hard that it is now making the historical drama movie looks good by comparison, not an actual gaining ground. Oppenheimer is an outlier. 

[Arlborn]

3 hours ago, Brainbug said:

Could be my delusional history fan nerd soul talking, but between Oppenheimer beeing a massive hit, KOTFM doing quite respectable numbers and now Napoleon looking like a potential small breakout - maybe people are gaining interest again in historical movies/epics like in the early 2000s?

 

I for one would welcome that development.

I am not sure if we can really be sure of that with such a small sample size, but if true that would be great news for Gladiator 2... That might be big, really big.

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Arlborn

[JonathanMB]

3 hours ago, Brainbug said:

Could be my delusional history fan nerd soul talking, but between Oppenheimer beeing a massive hit, KOTFM doing quite respectable numbers and now Napoleon looking like a potential small breakout - maybe people are gaining interest again in historical movies/epics like in the early 2000s?

 

I for one would welcome that development.

 

Horizon: An America Saga sweep incoming!

 

Also seems like a good sign for Gladiator 2 next November, with Scott returning, plus one of the last remaining box office draws (Denzel) plus three major Internet Boyfriends to drive hype around around the young'uns.

[TMP]

8 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:

The first trailer got 33 million views. That's superhero movies number. Trailer views ain't everything but clearly some real interest exists.

Napoleon is the only movie I ever heard a single adult talk about in any capacity since I started working - the hype was very very tangible. Haven’t heard a peep on a single thing next month, but considering it’s mostly kids stuff maybe my anecdotal evidence isn’t the best sample size. 

[YM!]

Whenever I got the Napoleon trailer in theater, it had a good response. I also seen more advertising for it than Flower Moon and on top of that, heard more people my age talk about Napoleon than Moon. Anyways, even though tentpoles have been very hit or miss this year and signs of an unhealthy box office are there, the return of adult drama slowly creeping in means there’s hope for a more sustainable theatrical future. Now if we could just get more comedies to do well, I think we could get more healthier variety for theaters and studios because if more mid and small budgeted films do well, a tentpole dying doesn’t fuck over a month.

[WorkingonaName]

Gladiator 2 will be Barbie for men.