The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[Flip]

On 6/26/2024 at 9:22 PM, Flip said:

Despicable Me 4 (T-7)

 

22 showtimes/175 tix sold (+24) 

.7x Inside Out 2 Thursday (T-7) [9.17m] 

Sold half of Inside Out 2 in the same timespan. Starting tomorrow I’ll have the IO2 Friday comp (it should start at ~26m), so that’s much more encouraging

Despicable Me 4 (T-3)

 

23 showtimes/432 tix sold (+257) 

.97x Inside Out 2 Thursday (T-3) [12.61m] 

.458x Inside Out 2 Friday (T-3) [23.15m]

Sold more than Inside Out 2 Thurs in the same timespan, but slipped against Friday. Would not be surprised with 5-day under 100m unless something changes

[Insomnia]

23 minutes ago, Flip said:

Despicable Me 4 (T-3)

 

23 showtimes/432 tix sold (+257) 

.97x Inside Out 2 Thursday (T-3) [12.61m] 

.458x Inside Out 2 Friday (T-3) [23.15m]

Sold more than Inside Out 2 Thurs in the same timespan, but slipped against Friday. Would not be surprised with 5-day under 100m unless something changes

Yikes. 

[Migs20242]

6 minutes ago, Insomnia said:

Yikes. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the 2nd weekend drop for Despicable Me 4 is 50-60% dip.

[keysersoze123]

On 6/28/2024 at 6:45 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Deadpool & Wolverine MTC1 Previews(T-27) - 192508/1279358 3551300.44 7857 shows +3050

 

may be there was a small bump today. I will look at Friday once a week or so. Its moving slower anyway for now. 

Deadpool & Wolverine MTC1

Previews(T-25) - 196432/1279406 3619066.60 7858 shows +3924 

Friday - 92197/1487065 1749004.06 8282 shows // +4847 in 4 plus days of PS

 

It has definitely bottomed and slightly on the up side at the moment. 

[crazymoviekid]

Despicable Me 4:

 

Wednesday Comps: 

 

Theater 1: 70 Tickets

Theater 2: 108 Tickets

 

IO2 (Fri): $20.07M

IO2 (Thrs): $17.80M

KFP4: $23.60M

Wish: $8.15M

Paw Patrol 2: $8.05M

Mario: $12.93M

PiB2: $20.34M

Minions 2 (Fri): $17.24M

Minions 2 (Thrs): $11.00M

 

Either going to $10M based on comps or $20M. Feeling more confident about the latter

[Migs20242]

 

2 minutes ago, crazymoviekid said:

Despicable Me 4:

 

Wednesday Comps: 

 

Theater 1: 70 Tickets

Theater 2: 108 Tickets

 

IO2 (Fri): $20.07M

IO2 (Thrs): $17.80M

KFP4: $23.60M

Wish: $8.15M

Paw Patrol 2: $8.05M

Mario: $12.93M

PiB2: $20.34M

Minions 2 (Fri): $17.24M

Minions 2 (Thrs): $11.00M

 

Either going to $10M based on comps or $20M. Feeling more confident about the latter

It's either the reviews are very mixed or moviegoers are tired of Minions. This may get worse.

[misterpepp]

Lion King 30th Anniversary on sale tomorrow (Jul 1)

Reagan on sale July 2

Dandelion and Oddity on sale July 5

Edited Monday at 04:20 AM by misterpepp

[abracadabra1998]

On 6/29/2024 at 11:16 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minnesota Opening Day:

 

Despicable Me 4 (T-4):

Day: T-4	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 23 theaters	306	770	1340	48891	2.74

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		536	318	40
MTC1:		411	227	30.67
Other chains:		929	543	69.33

 

Comps (previews):

1.43x Inside Out 2: $18.61 Million

2.81x Kung Fu Panda 4: $10.68 Million (17 theaters)

7.75x Migration: $11.63 Million (17 theaters)

 

Comps (Opening Day):

1.11x Paw Patrol The Mighty Movie (FRI): $7.52 Million (17 theaters)

1.82x Madame Web (WED): $11.01 Million (17 theaters)

0.66x Bob Marley (WED): $9.29 Million (17 theaters)

 

Wowza! Incredible update. Something to keep an eye on is that tomorrow, T-3, will be on Sunday, as opposed to the other animated releases which are all Thursday releases, so I expect comps will likely go down, and then pick back up again strong on Monday

 

Minnesota Opening Day:

 

Despicable Me 4 (T-3):

Day: T-3	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 23 theaters	306	523	1863	48891	3.81

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		742	206	39.83
MTC1:		543	132	29.15
Other chains:		1320	391	70.85

 

Comps (previews):

1.45x Inside Out 2: $18.86 Million

3.17x Kung Fu Panda 4: $12.04 Million (17 theaters)

7.89x Migration: $11.84 Million (17 theaters)

 

Comps (Opening Day):

1.11x Paw Patrol The Mighty Movie (FRI): Missed

1.82x Madame Web (WED): Missed

0.66x Bob Marley (WED): Missed

 

Another great day!

[abracadabra1998]

On 6/27/2024 at 4:56 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minnesota Previews:

 

Twisters (T-21):

Day: T-21, T-20	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 23 theaters	139	31	172	22960	0.75
Wednesday July 17 EA: 16 theaters	20	33	152	4204	3.62
TOTALS:	159	64	324	27164	1.19

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		136	27	79.07
MTC1:		118	20	68.6
Other chains:		54	11	31.4

 

Comps:

2.05x Quiet Place Day One: ???

1.05x Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes: $6.92 Million

1.51x Fall Guy: $4.75 Million

 

Average: $5.84 Million

 

I must say, in "sort-of but not really but sometimes" tornado country, this is doing pretty well? Surprised at the doom-and-gloom around here

 

Minnesota Previews:

 

Twisters (T-18):

Day: T-18, T-17	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Thursday: 23 theaters	139	40	212	22960	0.92
Wednesday July 17 EA: 16 theaters	20	50	202	4204	4.8
TOTALS:	159	90	414	27164	1.52

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		170	34	80.19
MTC1:		147	29	69.34
Other chains:		65	11	30.66

 

Thursday Comps:

1.08x Quiet Place Day One: $7.36 Million

1.39x Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes: $6.97 Million

1.89x Fall Guy: $4.45 Million

 

Average: $6.26 Million

 

EA Comps:

1.05x Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes: $1.68 Million

1.73x Fall Guy: $1.38 Million

 

Average: $1.53 Million

 

Keeps doing really well in Minne!

[Insomnia]

1 hour ago, Migs20242 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the 2nd weekend drop for Despicable Me 4 is 50-60% dip.

I would say that would be the case if it was a Friday opener but because it's a Wednesday opener it should still have a good drop, especially with no competition the weekend after.

[keysersoze123]

12 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Despicable Me 4 MTC1 Wednesday(T-4) - 51627/1162737 842080.80 6259 shows +8640

Midnight Shows - 784/13597 17892.14 75 shows +151

 

Mario sold 14753 tickets at T-4 was just under 125K. Can DM4 double its sales today?

Despicable Me 4 MTC1 Wednesday(T-3) - 66933/1161863 1084786.29 6251 shows +15306

Midnight Shows -  916/13594 20788.62 75 shows +132

 

Not double but not a bad day at all. Let us see how things go tomorrow. I am bumping up my OD expectations to at least mid 20s. 

 

Mario sold over 24K but grew less. Also on Monday Mario grew only ~ 39K. I expect the gap to go down and walkups could even match or do a bit better. 

 

If we have to compare with IO2, equivalent day would be Tuesday when it sold over 29K. Wed growth was around 39K(taken few hours earlier. I think actual number is 44K). But it was a full thursday preview release and so early demand was divided between both the movies. 

[Porthos]

On 6/30/2024 at 1:53 AM, Porthos said:

 

Deadpool & Wolverine Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

T-26 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	240	27850	33622	5772	17.17%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

47

 

T-26 Comp

	%		Sold T-26	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
MoM	71.20		285	8107		0/329	32809/40916	19.81%		21117	27.33%		25.63m
BP2	104.98		102	5498		1/294	31521/37019	14.85%		16800	34.36%		29.40m
AM3	163.61		107	3528		0/235	29016/32544	10.84%		10475	55.10%		28.63m
GOTG3	218.22		88	2645		0/206	27026/29671	8.91%		10750	53.69%		38.19m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Deadpool & Wolverine's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

Regal:     1252/12925  [9.69% sold]
Matinee:    332/4469  [7.43% | 5.75% of all tickets sold]
3D:             636/6801  [9.35% | 11.02% of all tickets sold]
PLF:        2991/11532  [25.94% | 51.82% of all tickets sold]
———    
CM EQUIV        40 seats sold today at equivalent sources of tracking
TROS EQUIV    44 seats sold today at equivalent sources of tracking

 

Deadpool & Wolverine Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

T-25 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	240	27777	33622	5845	17.38%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

73

 

T-25 Comp

	%		Sold T-25	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
MoM	70.16		224	8331		0/329	32585/40916	20.36%		21117	27.68%		25.26m
BP2	104.02		121	5619		1/294	31400/37019	15.18%		16800	34.79%		29.13m
AM3	161.24		97	3625		0/235	28901/32526	11.14%		10475	55.80%		28.22m
GOTG3	217.45		43	2688		0/206	26983/29671	9.06%		10750	54.37%		38.05m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Deadpool & Wolverine's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

Regal:     1289/12925  [9.97% sold]
Matinee:    341/4469  [7.63% | 5.83% of all tickets sold]
3D:            653/6801  [9.60% | 11.17% of all tickets sold]
PLF:       3016/11532  [26.15% | 51.60% of all tickets sold]
———    
CM EQUIV        69 seats sold today at equivalent sources of tracking
TROS EQUIV    69 seats sold today at equivalent sources of tracking

[vafrow]

22 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

Despicable Me 4, T-4 Wednesday Opening, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Total Sales: 425

New Sales: 75

Growth: 21%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 61

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 7.0

Ticket premium in effect: Y

 

Sales by Showtime Slot

Noon: 81/13

Early Afternoon: 94/13

Late Afternoon: 68/13

Early Evening: 173/12

Late Evening: 9/11

 

Sales by Format

Regular: 47/17

Regular 3D: 17/11

Dolby: 290/17

Dolby 3D: 14/3

IMAX: 49/10

4DX: 8/3

 

Comps

2.707x Inside Out 2 for $35.2M

2.094x Kung Fu Panda 4 for $10.0M

5.120x GB:FE for $18.9M

5.903x Wonka for $20.7M

35.417x IF for $62.0M

Average: $29.4M

 

It slipped a bit off pace with comps, but that might be because dates aren't lining up. For other films being comped, the T-4 is usually the Monday morning update, which tends to be stronger.

 

Another note is that with tomorrow being a major holiday, it might throw off numbers. On that same issue, I'll be out of town for the next few days. I'll try and update, but it gets harder from the road, so if I'm not posting, that's why.

 

Despicable Me 4, T-3 Wednesday Opening, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Total Sales: 506

New Sales: 81

Growth: 19%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 61

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 8.3

Ticket premium in effect: Y

 

Sales by Showtime Slot

Noon: 87/13

Early Afternoon: 114/13

Late Afternoon: 87/13

Early Evening: 201/12

Late Evening: 17

/11

 

Sales by Format

Regular: 61/17

Regular 3D: 17/11

Dolby: 330/17

Dolby 3D: 14/3

IMAX: 66/10

4DX: 10/3

 

Comps

2.556x Inside Out 2 for $33.2M

1.775x Kung Fu Panda 4 for $8.5M

5.685x GB:FE for $21.0M

5.622x Wonka for $19.7M

26.332x IF for $46.6M

Average: $25.8M

 

It continues to slip. This has had the opposite of the sales path that I expected. It's still pacing to do well, but I associate this franchise with slower starts with acceleration at the end. Growth rates have been dropping though.

[JustLurking]

22 hours ago, filmlover said:

Twisters is likely going to depend on reviews. If they're weak then underperformer incoming.

If you're hoping for the critics to save the film with people chasing tornadoes, it may as well be over lmao.

[charlie Jatinder]

On 6/26/2024 at 1:40 PM, charlie Jatinder said:

Deadpool & Wolverine MiniTC2 T-30 Days (37 Days on sale)

 

Previews - 9906/84939 (322 showings) $143K

 

Comps

GoTG 3 (T-17 Days) - $32.4M

Black Panther 2 (T-17 Days) - $34.2M

Thor 4 (T-17 Days) - $31M

 

Black Panther 2 (T-30 Days, 9 days on sale) - $43M

Deadpool 3 MiniTC2 T-25 Days

Previews - 10409/86722 (333 showings)
Friday - 6536/135836 (543 showings)
Saturday - 5350/137701 (544 showings)

 

Comps

Black Panther 2 - $41M, $69M & $81M

Thor 4 (T-17) - $32.5M & $53M

Edited Monday at 11:19 AM by charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

On 6/30/2024 at 4:21 PM, charlie Jatinder said:

Despicable Me 4 MiniTC2 T-4 Days

 

Wednesday - 4223/134674 (543 showings)

 

Comps

Minions 2 - $33M

 

Inside Out 2 - $26M

Kung Fu Panda 4 - $29M (adjusted for over indexing ~$27M)

Despicable Me 4 MiniTC2 T-3 Days

 

Wednesday - 5774/136126 (555 showings)

 

Comps

Minions 2 - $29M

Inside Out 2 - $21M

Kung Fu Panda 4 - $33M (adjusted for over indexing ~$30M)

[Juby]

2 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Deadpool 3 MiniTC2 T-25 Days

Previews - 10409/86722 (333 showings)
Friday - 6536/135836 (543 showings)
Saturday - 5350/137701 (544 showings)

 

Comps

Black Panther 2 - $41M, $69M & $81M

Thor 4 (T-17) - $32.5M & $53M

 

What's your current prediction for D&W opening?

[katnisscinnaplex]

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Despicable Me 4 (OD)	T-2	Jax	5	100	1,067	1,067	16,820	6.34%
		Phx	7	98	722	722	17,009	4.24%
		Ral	8	147	1,161	1,161	19,929	5.83%
	Total		20	345	2,950	2,950	53,758	5.49%

 

T-2 adjusted comps

 - Spider-Verse 2 - .732x (12.95m)

 - Sing 2 (OD) - 1.25x (12.91m)

 - Minions 2 - 2.54x (27.94m)

 - Sonic 2 - 2.75x (16.84m)

[AniNate]

Looks like Lion King rerelease tix are now on sale

 

Doesn't seem like it's super-wide so probably ought to check expectations there

 

 

Edited Monday at 04:31 PM by AniNate

[kayumanggi]