BEAUTY AND THE BEAST WEEKEND THREAD | Late Sunday Numbers (Asgard) - 48-49M | Official Weekend Estimate: 170M; OS OW: 180M; WW OW: 350M

[Fullbuster]

23 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

 

Fun stats: WB/New Line - 5 billion dollar movies; Paramount - 3 bdm's; Universal - 4 bdm's; Fox - 2 bdm's; Sony - 1 bdm; DISNEY - counting with BATB, FOURTEEN BILLION DOLLAR MOVIES.

 

Disney = 46.7% of the total, all by itself

[JB33]

Just now, Valonqar said:

When can we expect actuals?

 About 2-4 hours.

[Walt Disney]

15 minutes ago, DMan7 said:

Disney just needs to get Avatar and the DC franchise and it's game over for all other studios.

 

They actually tried to get Avatar when Fox was having cold feet about it. But when Fox saw Disney ready to step in, Fox decided to make Avatar after all.

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, JB33 said:

 

Yeah, I remember reading about that around the time of SPECTRE's release. I wonder how that's coming along, especially given recent reports that Craig is reconsidering coming back to do Bond again.

 

Barbara Broccoli said after SPECTRE opened that a new deal would be soon, a matter of months...  still waiting.  I think they're going to have give better terms to the financing/distributing studio.

[Brainbug]

As great the future is for Disney im worried that the other studios will not be able to keep up even remotly. Universal and WB are not in bad shape but Paramount and Sony look downright pathetic. Things like the Transformers Cinematic Universe (Ugh) are the result of these studios milking everything out from  their last franchises they have under their belt. A collapse of other studios would not be good for Hollywood. 

[JB33]

Just now, Brainbug said:

As great the future is for Disney im worried that the other studios will not be able to keep up even remotly. Universal and WB are not in bad shape but Paramount and Sony look downright pathetic. Things like the Transformers Cinematic Universe (Ugh) are the result of these studios milking everything out from  their last franchises they have under their belt. A collapse of other studios would not be good for Hollywood. 

 

Yes, but at the very least Paramount is building a universe around films that are already proven to be big money blockbusters, the last two having made $1B+ WW. Even if they're not great movies, Paramount is justified in that venture.

[Captain Craig]

Just now, Brainbug said:

As great the future is for Disney im worried that the other studios will not be able to keep up even remotly. Universal and WB are not in bad shape but Paramount and Sony look downright pathetic. Things like the Transformers Cinematic Universe (Ugh) are the result of these studios milking everything out from  their last franchises they have under their belt. A collapse of other studios would not be good for Hollywood. 

Paramount has really bungled the ability to ever make Jack Ryan stick after some studio head decided to go younger and kick Harrison Ford to the side. They should've done a few more with Ford in the late 90s. Then when they did reboot it they'd have likely had a signficantly larger fanbase to come support it.

Same for when they had the Morgan Freeman lead Alex Cross films. Back-to-Back studio ball dropping there. 

They should've already gotten Eddie Murphy to do a Beverly Hills Cop film or two back when 80's revivals were back in during the late '00s.

[Barnack]

1 hour ago, expensiveho said:

Isn't Bond on sale? That would be a $1b per movie franchise for them. I saw an article on Forbes about it

 

It is only the theatrical distribution deal that will be on the market, even if it is a billion dollar franchise distributing something as safe as Bond is not that lucrative, that deal represented only 15 million a year profit or so for Sony.

 

Profit for sony

Quantumn of solace: $22.657 million

Skyfall:  $57.298 million

They expected to do around 25 million on Spectre at 200 million domestic and 569 overseas, they probably made around 30 million from it.

 

They release on every 3 year's at most. I think they made more money from the Sandler Grown Up franchise and show how much it can be misleading to look at a studio on box office mojo to evaluate their success. 

 

I doubt Disney would agree to a deal like that (or care about it in is actual form), they would ask for much more.

Edited March 20, 2017 by Barnack

[Valonqar]

12 minutes ago, JB33 said:

 About 2-4 hours.

 

Thanks. 

[FantasticBeasts]

So whats acrually left there for WB and other studios??

[WrathOfHan]

21 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

As great the future is for Disney im worried that the other studios will not be able to keep up even remotly. Universal and WB are not in bad shape but Paramount and Sony look downright pathetic. Things like the Transformers Cinematic Universe (Ugh) are the result of these studios milking everything out from  their last franchises they have under their belt. A collapse of other studios would not be good for Hollywood. 

Viacom and Sony are looking to either sell their film divisions or put a stake up. The Big Six could be The Big Four by the end of next decade.

Edited March 20, 2017 by WrathOfHan

[JennaJ]

3 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Viacom and Sony are looking to either sell their film divisions or put a stake up. The Big Six could be The Big Four by the end of next decade.

 

Can they do that before they put Venom out?

Please?

[TalismanRing]

14 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

So whats acrually left there for WB and other studios??

 

Pretty much the same that was out there before Disney became enormous.   Yes, Paramount had a distribution deal with Marvel and Fox with Lucas Films but neither studio owned those films and those partnerships are now years in the past.  

 

WB still had a big year last year and Universal a gigantic one the year before and both those studios seem to have enough big things on their upcoming slates.  Lionsgate has also had a good year so far.  Parmount and Sony are floundering a bit (though Disney/Marvel will help out Sony soem with DM) but there's always been a time when some studios weren't doing well - once upon a time it was Disney.

[Bishop54]

Logan 20th Century Fox $17,815,677 -53% 3,687 $4,832 $184,342,56217

Get Out Universal $13,437,220 -35% 2,979 $4,511 $133,305,365

[Bishop54]

Kong: Skull Island

Warner Bros.

$27,832,142

-54%

3,846

$7,237

$109,107,436

[DMan7]

This has got to be the biggest weekend thread ever on this forum.

[aabattery]

1 minute ago, DMan7 said:

This has got to be the biggest weekend thread ever on this forum.

 

Go find the Jurassic World one.

[Goffe]

3 minutes ago, DMan7 said:

This has got to be the biggest weekend thread ever on this forum.

Edited March 20, 2017 by Goffe

[franfar]

36 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:

So whats acrually left there for WB and other studios??

WB makes original IP that succeeds. Like Central Intelligence, San Andreas, Get Hard, etc. They also have DCEU, which could be doing better, but still does gangbusters. They'll be fine.

 

Paramount has Transformers, which is pretty solid. However, that may change once Bay leaves the franchise. They also have Star Trek, which does fine, but their budgets are too high. So that's a hit against them.

 

Universal has Illumination, and while the movies may not be stellar, they're a solid competitor to Disney Animation. Not up to their level, but they have plans for the future. Universal also has Bourne, which does well stateside. They also have Fast and Furious, also a solid franchise. They have Fifty Shades, also solid. And now they have Jurassic World. 

 

Sony isn't doing as well, but they still have their animated films, along with Marvel tossing them a lifeboat with Amazing Spider-man.

 

20th Century Fox has X-Men, Deadpool, and Wolverine (if they make another one). They also have Kingsman and Planet of the Apes, along w/animation.

 

The legacy studios are trucking along, it's just that Disney is dwarfing all of them as of now. So it's more about inequality.

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

2 minutes ago, DMan7 said:

This has got to be the biggest weekend thread ever on this forum.

Nope. Looking at the Numbers and Data archives, it's #10 most replied to atm. Probably will rise over the next day or two, but the biggest looks like 386 pgs for TDKR

Edited March 20, 2017 by Jayhawk