The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Porthos]

9 hours ago, Porthos said:

Got to say it really sucks that Pulse is down right now, as I'd really like to know how much the Sacramento market is over-performing, if it is.  At least have some sort of measuring stick/benchmark

 

2 hours ago, FlashMaster659 said:

"As with Fandango, Endgame was AMC’s new U.S. first-day presale record holder, beating Force Awakens by approximately 50%."

 

2 hours ago, VenomXXR said:

[edit: more AMC comp]

Higher than the first days of Infinity War, Captain Marvel, Black Panther and The Last Jedi COMBINED.

Maybe the Sacramento market underperformed. 

Spoiler

Nah, probably not.  But that's the exact sort of thing I was looking for. 👍

 

Edited April 3, 2019 by Porthos

[Legion Again]

Realistic worst case for Pulse is probably that it comes back with the Sunday midnight reset.      

 

At least we we have a new tier of akvalley comps: N/A

Edited April 3, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[Matthew]

1 minute ago, Thanos Legion said:

Realistic worst case for Pulse is probably that it comes back with the Sunday midnight reset.      

 

At least we we have a new tier of akvalley comps: N/A

Nah.. Pulse is not going to be fixed. I don't think Fandango even need that. It was already not in good condition considering the layout. 

 

Pulse cannot handle Avengers Endgame, sadly. 

[Neucentro]

MT:

1. Avengers: Endgame 60.3%

2. Us 9.6%

3. Dumbo 7.9%

4. Captain Marvel 6.5%

5. Shazam! 2.8%

Shazam is still behind CM.

[XXR vs XXR]

18 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

 

Maybe the Sacramento market underperformed. 

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Nah, probably not.  But that's the exact sort of thing I was looking for. 👍

 

 

Tonight I’ll be able to do my first thorough check of my theater. I’d like to have the dedication you have and do the entire market, but I ain’t Porthos and I can’t imitate greatness that much

 

[JB33]

RIP April movies before Endgame. Lol! 

[Porthos]

2 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

Tonight I’ll be able to do my first thorough check of my theater. I’d like to have the dedication you have and do the entire market, but I ain’t Porthos and I can’t imitate greatness that much

 

Houston's a Top Ten market so I can't say I blame you.

[TalismanRing]

Not doing the whole market yet but, here's data from my local Regal for AEG as of  4/3/19 1:45pm across 15 showings. 

• AIW started with fewer and finished with 19 (with 6 near or complete sellouts)
• The last 5 3D showing were added after the initial rush. They should have made those 2D though they have 3+ weeks to fill them
• Shows that earlier sold out unsold out with the addition of more shows. 
• 1/3 to 1/2 of unsold seats in 2D and RPX are wheelchair spaces

 

3D

206 /256
171 /205
189/ 301
34 /256
17 /205
17 /218
20 /248

 

645/1689 = 38.72%

 

RPX

295/ 320
295/ 320

 

590/640 = 92.19%

 

2D

260/ 301
276 /301
225 /248
228/ 257
246/ 301

 

1235/ 1408 - 87.71%

 

Total:  2470/3737= 66.09%

 

EDIT: Thanks @Finnick  I thought that % was off with the 3D pffft.  I forgot to add RPX total seats into seat total.  I shouldn't math during lunch. 😛

Edited April 3, 2019 by TalismanRing

[HouseOfTheSun]

4 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Not doing the whole market yet but, here's data from my local Regal for AEG as of  4/3/19 1:45pm across 15 showings. 

• AIW started with fewer and finished with 19 (with 6 near or complete sellouts)
• The last 5 3D showing were added after the initial rush. They should have made those 2D though they have 3+ weeks to fill them
• Shows that earlier sold out unsold out with the addition of more shows. 
• 1/3 to 1/2 of unsold seats in 2D and RPX are wheelchair spaces

 

3D

206 /256
171 /205
189/ 301
34 /256
17 /205
17 /218
20 /248

 

645/1689 = 38.72%

 

RPX

295/ 320
295/ 320

 

590/640 = 92.19%

 

2D

260/ 301
276 /301
225 /248
228/ 257
246/ 301

 

1235/ 1408 - 87.71%

 

Total:  2470 /3161 = 78.1%

 

Alright cinemas...please get rid of 3D 

[TheDarkKnightOfSteel]

Less than 45M....here we go...

[Finnick]

16 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Not doing the whole market yet but, here's data from my local Regal for AEG as of  4/3/19 1:45pm across 15 showings. 

• AIW started with fewer and finished with 19 (with 6 near or complete sellouts)
• The last 5 3D showing were added after the initial rush. They should have made those 2D though they have 3+ weeks to fill them
• Shows that earlier sold out unsold out with the addition of more shows. 
• 1/3 to 1/2 of unsold seats in 2D and RPX are wheelchair spaces

 

3D

206 /256
171 /205
189/ 301
34 /256
17 /205
17 /218
20 /248

 

645/1689 = 38.72%

 

RPX

295/ 320
295/ 320

 

590/640 = 92.19%

 

2D

260/ 301
276 /301
225 /248
228/ 257
246/ 301

 

1235/ 1408 - 87.71%

 

Total:  2470 /3161 = 78.1%

 

Still dealing with some health issues and work. I am glad AEG broke the PS record.  Seen CM, it was a decent movie. as a Marvel fan it is in my lower ranking!!. Well, I have seen it twice now. LOL

@TalismanRing there is a mistake in you total percentage it should be:

Total: 2470/3737= 66.09%

I hope to be around when AEG hits theaters.

For the sake Zachary Levi and I really want Shazam to break out big

[HouseOfTheSun]

14 minutes ago, TheDarkKnightOfSteel said:

Less than 45M....here we go...

No I think walk up business will get to 50m atleast 

[Ledmonkey96]

Of the 11 showings Thursday at the theater near me:

6:00 105/109 (4 open seats left,  others are broken/wheelchair spots/saved in case a seat breaks and we have to move people around)

6:05  4/38 (added this morning)

6:10 1/38 (added this morning)

6:15  46/57

6:30 0/38 (added this morning)

7:00  115/121

7:25 51/57

7:45  70/81

9:30  40/58

9:55  78/109

10:00  21/57

 

For a grand total of 

531/763 or 69.5% of our seats for Thursday. I have no comps But I'm pretty sure the max number of theaters we've had for any previews was 7 or 8 for TFA and IW and we've got 9 here. 8 theaters in the first and a 9 ninth switches from another movie at that 9:30 showing, I don't see us adding anymore since we've only got 13 theaters total.

[Legion Again]

Shazam up to exactly half of CM on MT this hour. Would like to see it pass by tonight.

[kitik]

1 hour ago, Neucentro said:

MT:

1. Avengers: Endgame 60.3%

2. Us 9.6%

3. Dumbo 7.9%

4. Captain Marvel 6.5%

5. Shazam! 2.8%

Shazam is still behind CM.

 

 

Shazam should be ahead of Us by tomorrow afternoon.

Avengers will probably drop a lot by then too, since first day sales will be gone.

[RealLyre]

2 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

Since Pulse is down

 

My local in NYC for Shazam! as of right now

 

19 / 329
47 / 329
22 /329

10 / 320
10 / 320

10/ 301
11/301

 

129 / 2229 = 5.78%

That's a lot of empty seats 🙂... Are these for Thursday showings? do you have any comps.

 

[Porthos]

13 hours ago, Porthos said:

Avengers: Endgame Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-23 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	7*	201	6727	21702	69.00%

 

Total Sellouts Today:                       7 [*includes two non-reserved sellouts at a reserved seating theater - might be an error and removed later]

Total Seats Sold Today:           14975

 

2.8233x as many tickets sold as Infinity War after one day of pre-sales.

1.9336x as many tickets sold as Infinity War 23 days before release [Infinity War has 41 days of pre-sales compared to Endgame's 23 days]

0.9998x as many tickets sold as Infinity War at stop of tracking on release night.

0.8851x as many tickets sold as Infinity War at stop of tracking on release night at the exact same theaters in town.

NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio. It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in more theaters locally, unless specifically noted otherwise.

 

COMPS:

IW (one day of pre-sales):     4662 tickets sold so far   [1 sellout/103 showings |      5511/10173 seats left  | 45.83% sold]

IW (23 days before release):  6807 tickets sold so far   [1 sellout/116 showings |      4318/11125 seats left  | 61.19% sold]

IW (final numbers):             13164 tickets sold at stop [59 sellouts/182 showings |   1195/15159 seats left  | 86.64% sold]

EG (adj*):                            13162 tickets sold so far   [7 sellouts/201 showings   |   4821/17983 seats left  | 73.19% sold]

EG (exact**):                       11651 tickets sold so far  [7 sellouts/177 showings   |   4238/15889 seats left  | 73.33% sold]

* EG (adj) is the number of tickets sold without the extra theaters I now have tracking info for

** EG (exact) is the number of tickets sold at the EXACT same theaters in town for a pure like-for-like comparison.

 

More Comps for Avengers: Endgame 

 

Captain Marvel:

9.9967x as many tickets sold as Captain Marvel after one day of pre-sales. 

4.6463x as many tickets sold as Captain Marvel 23 days before release. [CM had 58 days of pre-sales versus EG's 23 days]

1.4190x as many tickets sold as Captain Marvel at stop of tracking. 

 

CM (1st day of pre-sales):   1498 tickets sold so far   [0 sellouts/63 showings  |  7206/8704 seats left   | 17.21% sold]

CM (23 days from release): 3223 tickets sold so far   [2 sellouts/81 showings   | 7392/10616 seats left  | 30.36% sold]

CM (final numbers):          10553 tickets sold at stop [1 sellout/92 showings    | 9439/19992 seats left  | 52.79% sold]

EG:                                   14975 tickets sold so far   [7 sellouts/201 showings | 6727/21702 seats left | 69.00% sold]

NOTE: I have the same sources of tracking info for Endgame as I did Captain Marvel, so the unadjusted comp is being used here, even though Endgame is playing in a couple more theaters locally.

 

Selected Other Comps:

5.0046x as many tickets sold as Solo after one day of pre-sales. 

1.6241x as many tickets sold as Black Panther at stop of tracking.

1.6183x as many tickets sold as Deadpool 2 at stop of tracking.

2.2736x as many tickets sold as Solo at stop of tracking.

2.1134x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom at stop of tracking.

NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio. It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in more theaters locally.

 

Solo (1st day of pre-sales): 2630 tickets sold so far     [0 sellouts/87 showings   |  6718/9348 seats left   | 28.13% sold]

BP (final numbers):             8104 tickets sold at stop [26 sellouts/136 showings |  3377/11481 seats left  | 70.59% sold]

DP2 (final numbers):           8133 tickets sold at stop [3 sellouts/169 showings   |  8357/16490 seats left  | 49.32% sold]

Solo (final numbers):          5789 tickets sold at stop [5 sellouts/143 showings    |  7732/13521 seats left | 42.81% sold]

JW2 (final numbers):           6228 tickets sold at stop [1 sellout/147 showings     |  7487/13715 seats left | 45.41% sold]

EG (adj)*:                          13162 tickets sold so far   [7 sellouts/201 showings   |  4821/17983 seats left | 73.33% sold]

*EM (adj) is the number of tickets sold without the extra theaters I now have tracking info for

Edited April 3, 2019 by Porthos

[Porthos]

Just now, Porthos said:

More Comps for Avengers: Endgame 

 

 

***SNIPPED****

 

 

Had some time to organize my thoughts for comparisons.  I do have some other comps in the wings, but I'll hold off on them for now since we're kinda in a weird place where some films are just opening and/or I just started tracking them.  So for instance while I do have a BP comp that's close to day-of, I'm going to hold off putting it in for a few days until it reaches the point where I regularly tracked it again.  

 

However, since I have the exact same sources of tracking for CM that I do for EG, if at a different amount of theaters, I went ahead and put all comps with CM in its own section with the EG unadjusted number.

 

Getting back to BP, this the last film I'll be putting it in for comps. It's falling further and further behind in screen and theater count in the region and is becoming more and more useless for any sort of comp outside of the very final one.  And even that is diminishing in value.  I'll obviously keep the data around in case peeps ask for it, but just saying that it really is outliving its usefulness as a comp except for possibly the final result.

[RealLyre]

21 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

Shazam up to exactly half of CM on MT this hour. Would like to see it pass by tonight.

I know EG tickets being on sale yesterday are skewing the results but CM was at 43% at around this time and BP was at 39.5%

2019-03-06 21:00:25.486299 UTC
1	43.1%	Captain Marvel
2	12.6%	Tyler Perry's A Madea Family Funeral
3	11.5%	How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
4	4.4%	Alita: Battle Angel
5	3.1%	Greta

 

but looks like EG is slowing down so there's always hope 🙂

2019-04-03 19:00:29.870828 UTC
1	58.4%	Avengers: Endgame
2	10%	Us
3	8.3%	Dumbo
4	6.6%	Captain Marvel
5	3.1%	Shazam!

[Ms Lady Hawk]

At two most popular AMC theaters in NYC: Lincoln Square and Empire, Shazam is doing fairly well on IMAX and premium screens (1/2 full or better) for tomorrow afternoon/evening. This trend holds true for AMCs across the board in the surrounding areas as well. However it is not selling nearly as well in 3D and digital. We shall see how things play out. I am surprised that Deadline did not release updated tracking this week. 

Edited April 3, 2019 by Ms Lady Hawk