The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[TalismanRing]

21 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Overall - in the NYC + NJ Metro area - as of this morning AEG has more theaters, showings and sellouts than AIW on the day of Thur Previews

 

AEG (April 16 - 7am)

 

Theaters: 61

Showings: 687

Reserved Seating: 547

Complete SOs: 142

Total SO's: 275 (Complete + Near - not counted since April 11th)

 

AIW  (April 25 - 5pm)

 

Theaters: 59

Showings: 661

Reserved Seating: 380

Complete SOs: 115

Total SO's: 180 (Complete + Near)

 

A quick update as of 6pm

 

AEG (April 16 - 6pm)

 

Theaters: 61

Showings: 713

Reserved Seating: 579

Complete SOs: 144

Total SO's: 277 (Complete + Near - not counted since April 11th)

[Ledmonkey96]

1 minute ago, Barnack said:

IF they do open on less theater I would be curious what could be the condition Disney are asking for.

IW was estimated to open up in 4.2k 2 weeks prior to release.

[TalismanRing]

Just now, Ledmonkey96 said:

IW was estimated to open up in 4.2k 2 weeks prior to release.

Yeah, I have doubts it will be below AIW.    There are as of today two theaters showing AEG in NYC that haven't run a CBM since I started tracking in 2016. 

[terrestrial]

me too expect a higher screen count as estimated for such a wide release

[Barnack]

44 minutes ago, feasby007 said:

What was their highest? Something like 60-65% for SW?

 

Just how greedy can the mouse house be this time 

 

65% with a 4 week on the theater best screen (without skipping one show), 5% gross penalty if the term are not respected for Last Jedi was the biggest term in recent days I think.

 

I imagine they could be asking for even a little more now.

Edited April 16, 2019 by Barnack

[john2000]

4 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Yeah, I have doubts it will be below AIW.    There are as of today two theaters showing AEG in NYC that haven't run a CBM since I started tracking in 2016. 

EVEN IF IT IS really 74 theaters less will not have an affect whatsoever at least in my opinion not a noticable affect as someone else had said before after 4000 theater  it wont change anything significantly if i recall correctly what he said

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

8 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Yeah, I have doubts it will be below AIW.    There are as of today two theaters showing AEG in NYC that haven't run a CBM since I started tracking in 2016. 

I know we have 2 new theaters in Houston (one of which I'm going to for my 2nd viewing), and Porthos has 2 new theaters in his area. 

I just can't imagine any theater turned this money machine down, even for Disney's sometimes outlandish terms. This very well may hit the 4529 opening record. 

[Porthos]

Do we have to go through this song and dance every time a highly anticipated movie has its initial theater count?

The theater count is going to go up from from estimate to the final.  The only question is: How much.

[Stewart]

5 minutes ago, john2000 said:

EVEN IF IT IS really 74 theaters less will not have an affect whatsoever at least in my opinion not a noticable affect as someone else had said before after 4000 theater  it wont change anything significantly if i recall correctly what he said

Although true under normal circumstances, if this thing really does sellout completely then it needs every theatre it can get. 

 

Even the extra 500, if we say average 2 screens gives 11 showings for weekend, average 50 per screen (likely smaller screens in smaller theatres) gives 550,000 potential seats, so likely around $5m potential. Might not seem like much but even if that's an extra $2m, then that's bonus money for something that needs max capacity.

 

NB: These numbers were pulled out of thin air and are provided as example, I do not have factual data to backup figures assumed.

[TalismanRing]

30 minutes ago, feasby007 said:

What was their highest? Something like 60-65% for SW?

 

Just how greedy can the mouse house be this time 

Deadline reported it was 60% for IM3 and 65% for AIW

 

In an IM3 report from Deadline said Disney was the last major studio to raise the % for blockbusters.  I can't find that particular article again even though I read it just a  couple of weeks ago - but

 

https://deadline.com/2013/04/iron-man-3-tickets-not-on-sale-yet-at-theater-chains-in-dispute-with-disney-475572/

 

Quote

Distributors tell me Disney hasn’t negotiated its terms with the movie chains in several years — not even for Summer 2012’s huge tentpole The Avengers — so the studio thinks it’s due for a new overall deal on future Disney titles. Those include not just Marvel sequels but also Lucasfilm’s new Star Wars series as well as Pixar toons.

 

Edited April 16, 2019 by TalismanRing

[Porthos]

Oh, FFS:

 

*fires up Wayback Machine*

 

TLJ: 4100 initial | 4232 final (+132)

BP:  3800 initial | 4020 final (+220)

IW:  4200 initial | 4474 final (+274)

 

 

Those are the super big openers (200m+ OW) the last 18 months.  I could include others from 'smaller' openers, but history points to a 4400 initial count to being over 4500 at final.

Edited April 16, 2019 by Porthos

[charlie Jatinder]

5 hours ago, VenomXXR said:

@Charlie Jatinder What day did you say it should pass TFA presales?

By end of next weekend. Shall cross $100mn by Friday or Saturday.

[Cooper Legion]

Still another 50 mins or so until the end of day MT recap, but Endgame was just dethroned after all. Didn’t account for Holy Week.

Edited April 16, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[TalismanRing]

Just now, Thanos Legion said:

Still another 50 mins or so until the end of day MT recap, but Endgame was just dethroned after all. Didn’t account for Holy Week.

Still not even close on Fandango

 

Fandango Sales Past 24 Hours
Since: 2019-04-15 18:00:00 (US/Central - Chicago)

RANK	PERCENT	TICKETS	MOVIE
1	36.759%	24929	Avengers Endgame (2019)
2	11.354%	7700	Shazam!
3	07.812%	5298	Little (2019)
4	06.072%	4118	Captain Marvel (2019)
5	04.180%	2835	Avengers Endgame  (2019)
6	04.121%	2795	Hellboy (2019)
7	04.105%	2784	Pet Sematary (2019)
8	03.735%	2533	Dumbo (2019)
9	03.383%	2294	Us (2019)
10	02.582%	1751	Missing Link (2019)

[charlie Jatinder]

@Deep Wang can u try getting numbers on upcoming Friday (till Thursday, I mean). Will provide good base to my extrapolations.

[charlie Jatinder]

To be clear, Endgame hasn't left Fandango top spot since day one or Shazam FSS it lowered down?

[Cooper Legion]

1 minute ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

To be clear, Endgame hasn't left Fandango top spot since day one or Shazam FSS it lowered down?

We don’t log Fandango for movies post release, or at least I don’t know of anyone who does. Maybe should start, see how strong the correlation to dailies is.      

 

And akvalley tools reset Monday, so can’t tell from them.     

 

I’m pretty sure Shazam beat it by a healthy margin on opening Saturday, probably also opening Fri&Sun.

[DeeCee]

Update on Event Cinemas George St with just under 7 days till the first session at 8am.

 

George St now has 54 sessions from 8am through to the last start at 12:40am early Thursday morning.

 

VMAX (Large format screens with Dolby ATMOS. Standard adult ticket is AUD28.00)

-9 sessions:2900 out of 3497 seats sold (83% sold. Half of the available seats are from the newly added 12:40am session.  The 6pm VMAX is effectively sold out as only 5 x wheelchair seats remain)

 

4DX (Standard adult ticket is AUD31.00)

-4 sessions:512 out of 512 seats sold (100% SOLD OUT)

 

Gold Class (Recliner seats with food and drink service during the film. 38-56 seat theatres. Standard ticket for everyone is AUD42.00)

-18 sessions:777 out of 800 seats sold. (97% sold.  15 sold out.  The newly added 12:30am has 21 seats available.  2 other sessions have 1 seat each available.)

 

The 806 seat theatre has 5 sessions:867 out of 4030 seats sold (21.5%).

 

The sessions above currently have a total capacity on opening day of 8839 seats.

 

That still leaves another 18 standard sessions in various other theatres.  I might try and work them out later.  

 

EDIT:Note, still plenty of time to add more sessions as they still haven't listed any other screen times for George St for that day.

 

https://www.eventcinemas.com.au/Cinema/George-Street#date=2019-04-24

 

I'll also add that 3 Gold Class sessions on the Thursday are sold out and 1 on the Friday.

 

[Nova]

I know people are focused on End Game right now BUT I just checked my theater for John Wick 3 sales and I wouldn’t be surprised at a $45-50M opening for it if not more BUT I don’t wanna set expectations too high. Essentially what I’m trying to say is that it’s selling really well at my theater thus far. 

 

Also an update on Detective Pikachu. It’s passed Shazam’s 10 day update at my theater and it’s passed Dumbo’s week of sales at my theater (Did an update for both Shazam and Dumbo the week Dumbo came out). Its sales have been pretty steady. There wasn’t a rush in the beginning at my theater and there hasn’t been a rush for the tickets yet but sales have been chugging along. Still don’t know what any of it means though so 

Edited April 16, 2019 by Nova

[charlie Jatinder]

2 minutes ago, Nova said:

I know people are focused on End Game right now BUT I just checked my theater for John Wick 3 sales and I wouldn’t be surprised at a $45-50M opening for it if not more BUT I don’t wanna set expectations too high. Essentially what I’m trying to say is that it’s selling really well at my theater thus far. 

 

Also an update on Detective Pikachu. It’s passed Shazam’s 10 day update at my theater and it’s passed Dumbo’s week of sales at my theater (Did an update for both Shazam and Dumbo the week Dumbo came out). Its sales have been pretty steady. There wasn’t a rush in the beginning at my theater and there hasn’t been a rush for the tickets yet but sales have been chugging along. Still don’t know what any of it means though so 

There was an offer of free download of John Wick and John Wick 2 if you buy ticket of John Wick 3, perhaps that helped initial sales. Shall we wait.