The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Porthos]

Not the greatest of days for KotM even when compared to a Sunday.  Only silver lining is that it finally started to show some signs of movement after 6pm PDT.  But, eh.  

 

KotM did 2404 today on Fandango.  

Aladdin looks to have done 3989 on its Sunday before release.

 

JW:FK did 3998 on its Sunday before release.

Pikachu was partially hit by Fandango outages on its Sunday before release, so I really can't say there. 

 

Comping against Aladdin ain't great in the slightest.  Comping against JW:FK's Sunday before release gives me 60%, which is actually pretty decent.  Comparing against its Monday before release (9310) gives me 26%, which is pretty damn terrible.

 

I was actually expecting to have some worse thoughts about KotM's day today, but as I check it against JW:FK's Sunday before release it's... Not quite as bad as I thought.  So I'm re-writitng my opinion on the fly as it were.

 

But given I'm comping a Monday to a Sunday, KotM is going to have to start making up ground and quick.  Tomorrow being the review drop would be a good day to start.

 

Locally?  If I compare it to JW:FK's Sunday (220 tickets sold), it was acceptable.  Right around 50% of JW:FK.  Compared to JW:FK's Monday though (443), it was bad.  Roughly mirrors that same 26% split I saw nationally on Fandango.

 

Tomorrow is the review drop, plus the first day after the 4day weekend, so KotM should see a sizable jump.  How sizable will probably go a long way to concentrating my thoughts on the preview number.

 

tl;dr:  Not quite as bad as I thought at first blush using a JW:FK comp (and not an Aladdin one).  But it better start growing pdq.

[Mulder]

I feel like the issue with having too many thoughts on today besides "bleh" is that it's a Memorial Day  four day weekend with a 90 million opener. It's hard to extrapolate numbers from that.

[Cap]

Godzilla - Rocketman - Dark Phoenix - Secret Lives of Pets 2

Thursday Previews

Lincoln Square 13
	5.13	5.15	5.17	5.20	5.22	5.24	5.27	Total	%	+ Sold
Rocketman	150	160	182	197	205	230	284	1276	22.26%	54
Godzilla	567	618	646	695	710	790	857	2124	40.35%	67
Dark Phoenix	479	612	694	741	790	826	885	2034	43.51%	59
Pets 2	--	--	9	9	9	9	11	297	3.70%	2

 

Southern Maine Cinemagic
	5.13	5.15	5.17	5.20	5.22	5.24	5.27	Total	%	+ Sold
Rocketman	4	4	4	4	4	4	6	1160	0.52%	2
Godzilla	15	22	26	34	40	47	73	1316	5.55%	26
Dark Phoenix	0	2	2	3	3	3	3	962	0.31%	0

 

• Same story: LS13 IMAX is a huge draw; everything else is light.
• Dark Phoenix's Fan Event at LS13 is Sold Out (2 Seats in the front row, one ADA assistance, four wheelchair spots are left)

[McClintonforThree]

 

 

 

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On 5/27/2019 at 1:15 AM, McClintonforThree said:

Only Thursdays

Orange Park AMC

Godzilla KOTM - 179 (+8), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 1 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Rocketman - 45 (+5), 3 screenings (1 Dolby, 2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 1 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 106 (+3), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

Godzilla had a slower day but is still 28 tickets ahead of Aladdin. Rocketman gained a respectable 5 tickets. SLOP2... this can't be good can it? Dark Phoenix still slowly moving forward and is now behind Godzilla by 11 tickets.

 

Regency AMC

Godzilla KOTM - 232 (+13), 10 screenings (3 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 3 Regular)

Rocketman - 30 (+3), 3 screenings (1 Dolby, 2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 8 (0), 5 screenings (2 3D, 3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 163 (0), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

Godzilla has now fallen behind Aladdin by 19 tickets considering Aladdin sold 30 on this day last week. I have a feeling Godzilla is gonna continue to fall behind since this theater started getting 20+ tickets a day from here on out. Rocketman did ok. SLOP2 I'm super confused by. Do family films not presale at all? Dark Phoenix which has been selling really well at this theater didn't sell anything today.

 

Epic Theatres at Oakleaf

Godzilla KOTM - 28 (0), 3 screenings (3 Epic XL)

Rocketman - 0 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 4 (0), 3 screenings (3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 0 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

NewVision 12 at Fleming Island

Godzilla KOTM - 4 (0) , 3 screenings (3 Regular)

Rocketman - 0 (0), 0 screenings

SLOP2 - 0 (0), 0 screenings

Dark Phoenix - 1 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Avenues Regal Cinemas

Godzilla KOTM - 42 (+2), 5 screenings (2 3D, 3 Regular)

Rocketman - 10 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 16 (0), 5 screenings (1 RPX 2D, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 33 (0), 7 screenings (2 4DX 3D, 1 RPX 2D, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Cinemark Tinseltown

Godzilla KOTM - 151 (+12), 6 screenings (1 3D, 3 XD, 2 Regular)

Rocketman - 17 (+2), 3 screenings (3 Regular)

SLOP2 - 16 (0), 3 screenings (3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 30 (0), 4 screenings (2 3D, 2 Regular)

 

Welp. Not a lot of movement overall. Hopefully Godzilla sales start picking up like Aladdin's did last week.

Only Thursdays

Orange Park AMC

Godzilla KOTM - 197 (+18), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 1 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Rocketman - 50 (+5), 3 screenings (1 Dolby, 2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 1 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 119 (+13), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

Godzilla is killing Aladdin at this theater. Makes me feel good. Rocketman had another solid outing for itself and Dark Phoenix picked up some steam.

 

Regency AMC

Godzilla KOTM - 270 (+38), 10 screenings (3 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 3 Regular)

Rocketman - 38 (+8), 3 screenings (1 Dolby, 2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 10 (+2), 5 screenings (2 3D, 3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 171 (+8), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

WHOA! And just like that Godzilla is back in it with 11 more tickets sold today than Aladdin last week. Rocketman had a pretty good day, SLOP2 sold a couple, and Dark Phoenix had another solid day.

 

Epic Theatres at Oakleaf

Godzilla KOTM - 38 (+10), 5 screenings (+2 3D screenings) (3 Epic XL, 2 3D)

Rocketman - 0 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 4 (0), 3 screenings (3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 0 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

 

Godzilla is still mucho behind Aladdin at this theater but gained some tickets and a couple of screenings which is nice. Surprised Dark Phoenix still has a goose egg on the board.

 

NewVision 12 at Fleming Island

Godzilla KOTM - 9 (+5) , 3 screenings (3 Regular)

Rocketman - 0 (0), 0 screenings

SLOP2 - 0 (0), 0 screenings

Dark Phoenix - 1 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

 

Godzilla's behind in this theater too but not by much. These don't seem to do presales as much.

 

Avenues Regal Cinemas

Godzilla KOTM - 42 (0), 5 screenings (2 3D, 3 Regular)

Rocketman - 10 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 16 (0), 5 screenings (1 RPX 2D, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 33 (0), 7 screenings (2 4DX 3D, 1 RPX 2D, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Cinemark Tinseltown

Godzilla KOTM - 182 (+31), 6 screenings (1 3D, 3 XD, 2 Regular)

Rocketman - 31 (+14), 3 screenings (3 Regular)

SLOP2 - 16 (0), 3 screenings (3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 33 (+3), 4 screenings (2 3D, 2 Regular)

 

Let's go! Godzilla did big business today at most of the theaters. Especially the big ones. Hopefully it gets great reviews later today leading to bigger sales. I'm feeling great about this. Come on Godzilla! You can do it!

[Maximum Avery]

8 hours ago, Minnale101 said:

1004 pluse with 3 days before premieres

 

is very bad.

 

Shazam and dumbo way ahead on their last Monday’s but it is Memorial Day. Let’s see tomorrow 

What is pluse if you dont mind my ignorance?:)

 

TTVOMJ

[Maximum Avery]

4 hours ago, Porthos said:

Not the greatest of days for KotM even when compared to a Sunday.  Only silver lining is that it finally started to show some signs of movement after 6pm PDT.  But, eh.  

 

KotM did 2404 today on Fandango.  

Aladdin looks to have done 3989 on its Sunday before release.

 

JW:FK did 3998 on its Sunday before release.

Pikachu was partially hit by Fandango outages on its Sunday before release, so I really can't say there. 

 

Comping against Aladdin ain't great in the slightest.  Comping against JW:FK's Sunday before release gives me 60%, which is actually pretty decent.  Comparing against its Monday before release (9310) gives me 26%, which is pretty damn terrible.

 

I was actually expecting to have some worse thoughts about KotM's day today, but as I check it against JW:FK's Sunday before release it's... Not quite as bad as I thought.  So I'm re-writitng my opinion on the fly as it were.

 

But given I'm comping a Monday to a Sunday, KotM is going to have to start making up ground and quick.  Tomorrow being the review drop would be a good day to start.

 

Locally?  If I compare it to JW:FK's Sunday (220 tickets sold), it was acceptable.  Right around 50% of JW:FK.  Compared to JW:FK's Monday though (443), it was bad.  Roughly mirrors that same 26% split I saw nationally on Fandango.

 

Tomorrow is the review drop, plus the first day after the 4day weekend, so KotM should see a sizable jump.  How sizable will probably go a long way to concentrating my thoughts on the preview number.

 

tl;dr:  Not quite as bad as I thought at first blush using a JW:FK comp (and not an Aladdin one).  But it better start growing pdq.

Maybe these mostly strange/unexpected/fluctuating/lower than expected(except jw3) PS these last weeks have something to do with unprecedented heavy week upon week of heavy hitter releases all bundled up after a power outage level box office draining level behemoth like endgame?

Only other year that had somethig simmilar was 2014 and its 20movie +100m summer slate 

 

TTVOMJ

[Minnale101]

3 hours ago, Maximum Avery said:

What is pluse if you dont mind my ignorance?:)

 

TTVOMJ

It’s in the first page. Like fandango number of tickets sold the past 24 hours 

[Maximum Avery]

7 minutes ago, Minnale101 said:

It’s in the first page. Like fandango number of tickets sold the past 24 hours 

Pluse or pulse?

 

TTVOMJ

[keysersoze123]

Zilla is still not in Top 5 at 24 hour Fandango tracker though it should hit it some point today. Probably needs at least 5000 tickets sold by end of day.

 

Quote

1 38.020% 26535 Aladdin (2019)

2 14.842% 10359 John Wick Chapter 3 – Parabellum

3 09.034% 6305 Avengers Endgame (2019)

4 06.422% 4482 Aladdin

5 06.270% 4376 Pokémon Detective Pikachu

6 04.763% 3324 Booksmart

7 03.992% 2786 Brightburn

8 03.419% 2386 Godzilla King of the Monsters (2019)

9 02.211% 1543 Rocketman

10 01.752% 1223 A Dogs Journey

11 01.449% 1011 The Hustle (2019)

12 01.194% 833 Godzilla King of the Monsters -

13 00.920% 642 Long Shot

14 00.838% 585 The Intruder (2019)

15 00.630% 440 Ma (2019)

16 00.600% 419 Dark Phoenix

17 00.410% 286 The Sun Is Also a Star

18 00.347% 242 The Secret Life of Pets 2

19 00.325% 227 UglyDolls

20 00.325% 227 Spider-Man Far From Home (2019)

Last full hour numbers

 

019-05-28 08:00:00	1316	Aladdin (2019)
2019-05-28 08:00:00	385	John Wick Chapter 3 – Parabellum
2019-05-28 08:00:00	323	Avengers Endgame (2019)
2019-05-28 08:00:00	223	Pokémon Detective Pikachu
2019-05-28 08:00:00	194	Rocketman
2019-05-28 08:00:00	165	Godzilla King of the Monsters (2019)
2019-05-28 08:00:00	128	Brightburn
2019-05-28 08:00:00	125	Booksmart
2019-05-28 08:00:00	123	Aladdin 3D
2019-05-28 08:00:00	83	A Dogs Journey
2019-05-28 08:00:00	60	Godzilla King of the Monsters - The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-05-28 08:00:00	41	Ma (2019)
2019-05-28 08:00:00	35	The Hustle (2019)
2019-05-28 08:00:00	27	Aladdin The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-05-28 08:00:00	23	The Intruder (2019)
2019-05-28 08:00:00	22	UglyDolls
2019-05-28 08:00:00	22	Dark Phoenix
2019-05-28 08:00:00	21	The Secret Life of Pets 2
2019-05-28 08:00:00	17	Godzilla King of the Monsters 3D (2019)

 

I am really impressed by Aladdin. Its going to have super strong tuesday.Rocketman is also showing up. Zilla needs up the ante in next few hours for it to have at least 5000 tickets sold for tuesday. It has only 2 days to go.

Edited May 28, 2019 by keysersoze123

[Cookson]

Godzilla(and Rocketman) are caught in a weird situation. Ticket sales are a bit muted right now because of the 4 day holiday, and now it’s discount day where the new releases from last weekend will obviously do good with.

 

No excuses now though. Godzilla needs to show up in the top 5 by tonight.

[Spectre]

24 minutes ago, Cookson said:

Godzilla(and Rocketman) are caught in a weird situation. Ticket sales are a bit muted right now because of the 4 day holiday, and now it’s discount day where the new releases from last weekend will obviously do good with.

  

No excuses now though. Godzilla needs to show up in the top 5 by tonight.

It'll show up in the Top 5 tonight... in that slice above it's already at #4 over Pikachu if you combine its standard, IMAX and 3D showings.

 

Just need to wait for the 24 hour to roll over.

[Eric Duncan]

Fandango App

Monday

Tues

Wed

Thursday

Rampage	705	1,508	4,109
Truth Or Dare	385	760	2,133

Breaking In

727

1,204

2,899

Oceans 8	3,009	4,372	11,114
Hereditary	659	1,178	3,181

Jurassic World 2

9,310

12,761

23,266

Mamma Mia 2

4,427

5,099

12,117

17,226

The Meg	1,539	2,944	6,723	16,202
Slender Man	177	418	1,091	3,737

Predator

1,295

2,476

4,545

13,063

Hellfest

195

304

661

A Star Is Born

9,115

11,383

22,641

21,501

Bohemian Rhapsody

7,255

9,026

12,546

26,476

Overlord

299

604

1,599

4,522

Possession of Hannah Grace

105

285

893

3,053

The Mule

791

1,779

3,882

6,235

Bumblebee

1,553

1,817

3,157

Escape Room

111

368

1,543

7,297

Upside	394	1,431	3,669	8,602
Glass	3,106	3,978	6,478	17,810

The Prodigy

161

359

847

2,288

The Curse of La Llorona

896

1,159

2,704

8,279

John Wick 3

7,867

10,932

18,211

31,028

Brightburn

554

858

1,596

3,329

Godzilla King of the Monsters	2,585
Rocketman	1,158
Ma	336

 

Godzilla

 

33% of John Wick (18.7M)

83% of Glass (33.6M)

166% of Bumblebee (36M)

28% of Fallen Kingdom (38.2M)

200% of The Predator (49.2M)

168% of The Meg (76.3M)

367% of Rampage (131.1M)

 

Last 7 Days (10-4)

58% of John Wick 3 (33.2M)

122% of Glass (49.1M)

41% of Fallen Kingdom (60.1M)

 

Day 18-4

31% of Fallen Kingdom (46.1M)

 

So this was a really bad Monday, but I'm going to be optimistic and say that this Monday was acting like a Sunday and hope for a better increase, Discount Tuesday be damned (although really, I don't think Discount Tuesday will do all that much this week)

 

Rocketman

13% of A Star is Born (5.4M)

16% of Bohemian Rhapsody (8.2M)

26% of Mamma Mia 2 (9.1M)

37% of Ocean's 8 (15.5M)

146% of The Mule (25.6M)

294% of The Upside (59.8M)

 

This also seems bad, but I'm optimistic Memorial Day is deflating the new openers (that's gonna be a running theme). But yeah, definitely needs to increase badly, if it wants to meet tracking.

 

Ma

61% of Brightburn (4.8M)

51% of Hereditary (6.9M)

46% of Breaking In (8.1M)

172% of Hell Fest (8.8M)

37% of La Llorona (9.9M)

112% of Overlord (11.5M)

209% of The Prodigy (12.2M)

87% of Truth or Dare (16.3M)

320% of Hannah Grace (20.5M)

190% of Slender Man (21.6M)

303% of Escape Room (55.2M)

 

Hoping this hits the higher end. Queen Octavia deserves it! 🙏

Edited May 28, 2019 by CoolEric258

[TalismanRing]

My local Regal (NYC):

 

Godzilla (Tues Noon) (4pm start)

14 /255 (2D)
28/ 255 (2D)
15/ 255 (2D)
21/320 (RPX)
15/320 (RPX)
2/ 255 (3D)
2/ 255 (3D)
0/255 (3D)

97 / 1915 = 5.06%

 

Rocketman: (Tues Noon) (7pm start)

7/ 257

9/ 257

16/ 514 = 3.11%

 

Aladdin (Tues Noon) (6pm start) (added another showing late Thur night but very low preview screen count for tent pole)
33/ 301 (2D)
13 / 301 (2D)
32/320 (RPX)
20/ 320 (RPX)

98 / 1242  = 7.89%

 

Shazam (Wed Afternoon) (4pm start)

19 / 255 (2D)
47 / 255 (2D)
22 / 255 (2D)
10 / 320 (RPX)
10 / 320 (RPX)
10/ 301 (3D)
11/301 (3D)

129 / 2007 = 6.42%

 

[keysersoze123]

Akvalley's daily page is not updated for this week but we have report page updated.

 

8978    2019-05-30    THU    Godzilla: King of Monsters
6571    2019-05-31    FRI    Godzilla: King of Monsters
4676    2019-06-01    SAT    Godzilla: King of Monsters
1889    2019-06-02    SUN    Godzilla: King of Monsters

 

 

To compare where Aladdin finished

Thu - 27398
Fri -  57783
Sat - 51300
Sun - 43690
Monday - 42573

Extraordinary trend for Aladdin and it broke out way more than what we were expecting a week back.

 

Aladdin previews were good but not Yuge. Kong did 3.7m previews but what were the previews for Zilla 14?

[TalismanRing]

2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Akvalley's daily page is not updated for this week but we have report page updated.

 

8978    2019-05-30    THU    Godzilla: King of Monsters
6571    2019-05-31    FRI    Godzilla: King of Monsters
4676    2019-06-01    SAT    Godzilla: King of Monsters
1889    2019-06-02    SUN    Godzilla: King of Monsters

 

 

To compare where Aladdin finished

Thu - 27398
Fri -  57783
Sat - 51300
Sun - 43690
Monday - 42573

Extraordinary trend for Aladdin and it broke out way more than what we were expecting a week back. 

 

Aladdin previews were good but not Yuge. Kong did 3.7m previews but what were the previews for Zilla 14?

 

Godzilla (2014) had 9.3m previews starting at 7pm for a 10x multi

 

KK (2017)  3.7m preview/ 16.5x multi/ $61m

 

1. The lower the previews the higher the possible multi

2. 4pm start should have a lower multi than a 6 or 7pm start

[keysersoze123]

2 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

Godzilla (2014) had 9.3m previews starting at 7pm for a 10x multi

 

KK (2017)  3.7m preview/ 16.5x multi/ $61m

 

1. The lower the previews the higher the possible multi

2. 4pm start should have a lower multi than a 6 or 7pm start

I would say 5m minimum to hit 60m. But 6m would be better. Any higher we can dream about bigger OW. Especially if PS for fri/sat look promising. I think if WOM from audience is similar to what Aladdin saw last week would help big time to have better previews to OW multi.

[Porthos]

KotM is in fact in the Top Five over at Fandango, but you have to combine all entries:

 

Fandango Sales Past 24 Hours
Since: 2019-05-27 12:00:00 (US/Central - Chicago)

RANK	PERCENT	TICKETS	MOVIE
1	43.784%	30120   Aladdin (2019) [combined]
2	14.882%	10238	John Wick Chapter 3 – Parabellum
3	08.479%	5833	Avengers Endgame (2019)
4	06.102%	4198	Pokémon Detective Pikachu
5       05.114% 3518    Godzilla King of the Monsters (2019) [combined] 
6	04.838%	3328	Booksmart
7	04.157%	2860	Brightburn
8	02.554%	1757	Rocketman
9	01.747%	1202	A Dogs Journey
10	01.470%	1011	The Hustle (2019)

Even with Discount Tuesday boosting Booksmart it should stay in the Top 5.  Esp after review empargo lifts in about three hours.

 

EDIT::: Wasn't paying attention., but Rocketman is also already in the Top 10.

Edited May 28, 2019 by Porthos

[keysersoze123]

^^^^^

 

it should hit Top 3 by end of the day and 2nd place sometime tomorrow morning. But not sure when it will overtake Aladdin. May take until thursday/Friday to do it.

 

But MT it may not hit until tomorrow morning update.

[filmlover]

1 hour ago, CoolEric258 said:

Hoping this hits the higher end. Queen Octavia deserves it! 🙏

I feel like Ma could've been a contender for a $35M+ opening on a less competitive weekend. It looks like a blast. Who doesn't want to see Octavia tormenting a bunch of bratty teens and their parents?

[Porthos]

("by mid summer" according to the blast)

 

More posting here for the news about Atom hitting close to 80% of DOM market, although with serveral of us having Cinemark theaters as their home theater/theaters they track this is of more than academic interest.

 

If Atom starts pumping out tracking info of any sort, it should be taken note of here.

 

EDIT:::

 

Should probably also add that now that it has deals with the three MTCs (AMC, Cinemark, Regal), a lot the smaller chains/independents that don't already have Atom coverage might start to follow suit as Atom grows in popularity (presuming it does).

Edited May 28, 2019 by Porthos