The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[charlie Jatinder]

10 minutes ago, WandaLegion said:

 

They were estimating around 2k as of late last week: https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-forecast-a-quiet-place-part-ii-and-f9-hope-to-shepherd-the-next-phase-of-global-recovery/

Yeah but that was probably Boxoffice's projection and not studio number. The widest anime releases recently is 1267 for Dragon Ball Z. Assuming this must have atleast 50-75 from Canada.

[charlie Jatinder]

On Thursday only 33 REGALS are open, I assume all of them are playing DS. On Friday 45 more will open, so MTC 1 and 2 ratio should start moving toward normalcy. 

[charlie Jatinder]

MK pre-sales are strong IMO. Shouldn't have an issue hitting $6M, which isn't much less than what I would have expected pre-COVID as trailer gave me DOA Pacific Rim 2, Tomb Raider vibes. 

 

Weekend probably 17-18M.

[Shawn Robbins]

12 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

@Shawn what is the show count/theater count for Demon Slayer. Is there any official word.

Nothing from the studio, but Dashboard has around 1,400 confirmed right now. Should get to at least 1,750, but I think ~2,000 is possible.

[charlie Jatinder]

9 minutes ago, Shawn said:

Nothing from the studio, but Dashboard has around 1,400 confirmed right now. Should get to at least 1,750, but I think ~2,000 is possible.

That's quite wide. I suppose not having Hollywood films helped.

 

Thanks.

[PKMLover]

I don't know if this is a right place to ask but what are the general legs for anime movie in North America? Can DS movie leg to $30M of Dragon Ball Super Broly? 

[titanic2187]

1 hour ago, PKMLover said:

I don't know if this is a right place to ask but what are the general legs for anime movie in North America? Can DS movie leg to $30M of Dragon Ball Super Broly? 

Most of the anime with great legs are award player like the wind rises , the tale of the princess kaguya that distributed by other studio like GKIDS. Based on the track record of Funanimation, it is very hard to judge either because the numbers were affected by those mid-week preview events that heavily attended by anime fans with huge premium ticket price.  Like how Super Broly got that 10m gross from those events before going into formal opening weekend. 

 

DS represent the first standard weekend opener for Funanimation since your name. If your name can have 2.78x legs , it is not too much to ask DS to leg out 2x albeit with higher number. Also, if a "standard" box office scale like Super Broly can have that 30m in USA, DS should not have problem to match that number with its Endgame-level hype as an anime. 

[Menor the Destroyer]

2 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

Most of the anime with great legs are award player like the wind rises , the tale of the princess kaguya that distributed by other studio like GKIDS. Based on the track record of Funanimation, it is very hard to judge either because the numbers were affected by those mid-week preview events that heavily attended by anime fans with huge premium ticket price.  Like how Super Broly got that 10m gross from those events before going into formal opening weekend. 

 

DS represent the first standard weekend opener for Funanimation since your name. If your name can have 2.78x legs , it is not too much to ask DS to leg out 2x albeit with higher number. Also, if a "standard" box office scale like Super Broly can have that 30m in USA, DS should not have problem to match that number with its Endgame-level hype as an anime. 

I think Dragon Ball is more widely known in the US though, like before I started watching anime I had heard of Goku and other references while I only learned of DS from this forum. But I guess intense hype among fans will more than make up for that.

[titanic2187]

43 minutes ago, Menor said:

I think Dragon Ball is more widely known in the US though, like before I started watching anime I had heard of Goku and other references while I only learned of DS from this forum. But I guess intense hype among fans will more than make up for that.

Dragon Ball is far more popular than DS in Asia outside of Japan before DS first movie came out but that doesn't stop DS to build up its awareness quickly and beating every DB (in fact every anime) in every part of Asian. That being said, Super Broly does look like a anomality to me at US box office given that most of the time for Japanese anime, it is the overseas hype that led to the successful run in USA.  

 

One disadvantage DS have is its R-rating while Broly got PG. I didn't expect DS to have R-rating in USA since even my country which have a much stricter viewership advise give a PG-13 rating to DS

 

  

[Inceptionzq]

On 4/19/2021 at 2:43 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Demon Slayer Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

406

1135

35.77%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

388

1813

21.40%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
2283	182	11567	19.74%	8	64

 

Showings added: 3

Seats added: 288

Demon Slayer Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

450

1675

26.87%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

402

1813

22.17%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
2464	181	13055	18.87%	9	81

 

Showings added: 17

Seats added: 1488

 

The pace has been really flat for the past few days. Let's see if these new showings will help it pick up

On 4/19/2021 at 2:43 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Demon Slayer Friday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

393

1030

38.16%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

203

806

25.19%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1578	60	7040	22.41%	8	50

 

Showings added: 3

Seats added: 273

 

One of my theaters glitched out and is suddenly showing a bunch of sell-outs. I was able to get the data for Thursday, but not Friday. It probably wouldn't add more than 10-15 seats sold though, so it's not that much of a deal.

Demon Slayer Friday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

402

1678

23.96%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

251

1321

19.00%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1763	185	9195	19.17%	9	79

 

Showings added: 29

Seats added: 2155

 

Seems yesterday was a weird blip. This pace is on track with the other days.

Edited April 20, 2021 by Inceptionzq

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Mortal Kombat Friday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

325

2768

11.74%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

158

2100

7.52%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1186	207	14736	8.05%	9	77
$150 PWPs:	22
$200 PWPs:	1
$250 PWPs:	8
$300 PWPs:	14
Total	45

Showings added: 4

Seats added: 318

 

GvK comp: 5.34M

 

Again, one of the theaters is being dumb but not that big a deal. Probably would’ve added 20+. Surpassed the pace of DS’s Thursday now. 

Mortal Kombat Friday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

401

2862

14.01%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

198

2275

8.70%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1466	280	15554	9.43%	9	87
$150 PWPs:	22
$200 PWPs:	1
$250 PWPs:	8
$300 PWPs:	15
Total	46

Showings added: 10

Seats added: 818

 

GvK comp: 5.66M

 

Gaining ground on GvK, but these next couple days will be the real test. Also worth noting that MK OD has more PWPs than GvK OD, but I think MK will have a smaller share than GvK did.

[charlie Jatinder]

9 hours ago, PKMLover said:

I don't know if this is a right place to ask but what are the general legs for anime movie in North America? Can DS movie leg to $30M of Dragon Ball Super Broly? 

I think start is big enough to get it over $30M and due to lower competition, it may get an extended run but even then it is still a fan heavy film. One must have watched 26 episodes series to watch it, so going blind isn't really a good move as per what I heard.

 

WoM and all doesn't matter for this one as only fans are gonna watch it.

[charlie Jatinder]

6 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

Dragon Ball is far more popular than DS in Asia outside of Japan before DS first movie came out but that doesn't stop DS to build up its awareness quickly and beating every DB (in fact every anime) in every part of Asian.

Going by Google Trends in Asia, DS is dominating Dragon Ball since it's launch by a landslide.

 

Malaysia for instance

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=MY&q=%2Fg%2F11byz8037n,%2Fm%2F0k2dm

 

[keysersoze123]

I am still getting data but Demon Slayer show count is up dramatically. That makes me optimistic for final day push for thursday/friday BO. Mortal Kombat is also looking like having a strong OD sales. Another thing is I see tiny amount of shows in MTC2 for MK on thursday. So there could be tiny amount of previews. Should not make material difference to overall BO still it is there. 

[frog]

8 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

Most of the anime with great legs are award player like the wind rises , the tale of the princess kaguya that distributed by other studio like GKIDS. Based on the track record of Funanimation, it is very hard to judge either because the numbers were affected by those mid-week preview events that heavily attended by anime fans with huge premium ticket price.  Like how Super Broly got that 10m gross from those events before going into formal opening weekend. 

 

DS represent the first standard weekend opener for Funanimation since your name. If your name can have 2.78x legs , it is not too much to ask DS to leg out 2x albeit with higher number. Also, if a "standard" box office scale like Super Broly can have that 30m in USA, DS should not have problem to match that number with its Endgame-level hype as an anime. 

In Australia DS leg now 2.2x still going, and dubbed version out this Thursday, expecting 2.5x, US may be similar

[poweranimals]

Well I was surprised to see that the Cinemark near me has more showings for Demon Slayer than Mortal Kombat.

[Borobudur]

DS did have a limited showings starting 26 Feb in Miami for one week for Oscar qualification. Will this small number rolled into its opening weekend?

[TwoMisfits]

7 minutes ago, poweranimals said:

Well I was surprised to see that the Cinemark near me has more showings for Demon Slayer than Mortal Kombat.

For my Cinemarks on Friday...

1st local (Cinemark) has 14 for DS/9 for MK - that said, MK got the 2 biggest screens, so DS is sitting in the 2nd tier screens (100-120), so MK might have a few extra tickets to sell

2nd local (Cinemark) has 14 for DS/7 for MK on Fri - again, MK got the 2 biggest screens, while DS is sitting in the 2nd tier screens (100-120), so it works out to about even seating possibilities

[keysersoze123]

4/23 Friday BO

Mortal Kombat(T-3)

MTC1 -  55390/620452 764534.00 3252 shows(429 Theatres) +9959 // 135 sellouts

MTC2 - 50029/452759 610898.53 2965 shows(294 Theatres) +8283

 

Demon Slayer Friday

MTC1 - 63495/535221 818630.00 3609 shows(407 Theatres) +7476// 326 sellouts

MTC2 - 50679/324794 686766.07 2717 shows(276 theatres) +6853

 

As I posted above, dramatic increase in show counts for DS. I expect the BO to increase at faster pace in next few days. For MK the PS is chugging along very well and  it has caught up at MTC2 at least in ticket sales. But I expect DS PS to also increase at better rate soon with increased showcount. Overall BO should see a big boost.

 

MK seem to have few shows on thursday at MTC2(none at MTC1). Its at 647/17075 6158.22 103 shows(19 theatres). Almost no impact to overall OD BO. 

 

 

On 3/28/2021 at 4:13 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Godzilla vs Kong(T-3)

MTC1 -  70155/463281 957262.00 2554 shows(322 Theatres) +8547   // 192 shows have not sold any tickets and 392 sellouts

MTC2 -   66980/470720 747075.44 3137 shows(293 Theatres) +7706 //337 shows have not sold any tickets and 272  sellouts

 

PWP MTC has 842 sellouts(+43) and MTC2 has 1542 sellouts(+91). 

 

Good increase over past 24 hours. 30%+ increase at both MTC and more shows have sold out at this point. Challenge is limited potential for a big burst on the final day. I am sticking with my prediction earlier of 150K MTC1 and 130K MTC2. Also PWP is looking like 1 million OD which is quite good. Weekend sales are stronger for PWP. I am thinking 7-8m OD which is quite good considering its normal mid week outside summer. 

 

23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

 

 

Mortal Kombat(T-4) //Friday 4/23

MTC1 - 45431/530769 638335.00 2680 shows(428 theatres) +10186 // 97 sellouts

MTC2 - 41746/424655 510035.04 2714 shows(294 theatres) +7453 // 71 sellouts

 

Demon Slayer Day 2 (Friday 4/23)

MTC1 - 56019/362050 723140.00 2414 shows(370 theatres) +7928 // 302 sellouts

MTC2 - 43826/218606 595180.29 1689 shows (274 theatres) +6776 // 173 sellouts

 

Good increases for both. MK is having stronger sales and will overtake by show day. Anyway it has PWP as well which gives it a big advantage. DS had good increase in show count at MTC1 but MTC2 is still constrained. Still solid numbers. 

 

[Borobudur]

13 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

For my Cinemarks on Friday...

1st local (Cinemark) has 14 for DS/9 for MK - that said, MK got the 2 biggest screens, so DS is sitting in the 2nd tier screens (100-120), so MK might have a few extra tickets to sell

2nd local (Cinemark) has 14 for DS/7 for MK on Fri - again, MK got the 2 biggest screens, while DS is sitting in the 2nd tier screens (100-120), so it works out to about even seating possibilities

Not sure if WB is doing a right thing to postpone MK only by one week, should have delay it by 2 weeks. I still don't think domestic market can handle two giant openers. New York is still under strict 25% cap which deadline have been ranting around in their box office report. Even if both DS+ MK overperform, that will be on the huge expenses of holdovers