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Just now, redfirebird2008 said:

 

BOM reporter said at least 750 was safe and could go up to 831. I think he was nuts for applying TFA's multiplier to get that 831 number. It never really had a chance to match TFA legs. But a shitload of people here agreed with the BOM guy that 750 should happen.

 

With the second Friday "early estimate" we had people going off the deep end predicting it to blow past Avatar's 760 total and push closer to 800. The early Friday number turned out to be way too high and it has never recovered from that like we hoped. Christmas Day/Boxing Day a lot of us thought at least $70m for those days combined (possibly $80m). It made $55m. And so forth...

I remember Scott Mendelson saying 660-720. 

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Just now, NoLegMan said:

well, those people are just bad at predicting.

 

At the time it wasn't the craziest thought. The OW was more backloaded than TFA, and when that was all we had to go off it wasn't super unreasonable to expect that it could go as high as 800M.

 

Obviously it hasn't unfolded like that, but hindsight is 20/20.

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Daily Domestic Chart for Wednesday January 3rd, 2018

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    Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days
1 (1) Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony Pictures $6,918,854 -32% 3,765 $1,838   $202,350,752 15
2 (2) Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Las… Walt Disney $5,225,332 -34% 4,232 $1,235   $544,613,735 20
3 (3) The Greatest Showman 20th Century Fox $2,627,249 -28% 3,316 $792   $60,721,504 15
4 (4) Pitch Perfect 3 Universal $2,265,195 -33% 3,468 $653   $73,828,655 13
5 (5) Ferdinand 20th Century Fox $1,725,595 -32% 3,337 $517   $61,268,677 20
6 (6) Coco Walt Disney $1,246,854 -28% 2,104 $593   $185,443,211 43
7 (8) Darkest Hour Focus Features $778,545 -17% 943 $826   $21,372,667 43
8 (7) All the Money in the World Sony Pictures $703,807 -25% 2,074 $339   $15,987,175 10
9 (9) Downsizing Paramount Pictures $632,255 -31% 2,664 $237   $20,251,632 13
10 (12) The Shape of Water Fox Searchlight $558,932 -16% 756 $739   $18,085,313 34
11 (11) Father Figures Warner Bros. $467,119 -32% 2,902 $161   $15,188,848 13
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22 minutes ago, weresweresweres said:

Is jumanji 6.9 mln official?

 

Looks like it.

 

 

  Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days
1 (1) Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony Pictures $6,918,854 -32% 3,765 $1,838   $202,350,752 15
2 (2) Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Las… Walt Disney $5,225,332 -34% 4,232 $1,235   $544,613,735 20
3 (3) The Greatest Showman 20th Century Fox $2,627,249 -28% 3,316 $792   $60,721,504 15
4 (4) Pitch Perfect 3 Universal $2,265,195 -33% 3,468 $653   $73,828,655 13
5 (5) Ferdinand 20th Century Fox $1,725,595 -32% 3,337 $517   $61,268,677 20
6 (6) Coco Walt Disney $1,246,854 -28% 2,104 $593   $185,443,211 43
7 (8) Darkest Hour Focus Features $778,545 -17% 943 $826   $21,372,667 43
8 (7) All the Money in the World Sony Pictures $703,807 -25% 2,074 $339   $15,987,175 10
9 (9) Downsizing Paramount Pictures $632,255 -31% 2,664 $237   $20,251,632 13
10 (12) The Shape of Water Fox Searchlight $558,932 -16% 756 $739   $18,085,313 34
11 (11) Father Figures Warner Bros. $467,119 -32% 2,902 $161   $15,188,848 13
12 (13) Molly’s Game STX Entertainment $357,125 -15% 271 $1,318   $6,913,420 10
13 (14) Lady Bird A24 $235,613 -5% 392 $601   $32,351,107 62
14 (15) Justice League Warner Bros. $178,230 -28% 1,215 $147   $226,339,162 48
15 (-) The Disaster Artist A24 $175,593 -15% 507 $346   $18,552,297 34
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Just now, Hermia said:

Daily Domestic Chart for Wednesday January 3rd, 2018

← Previous Chart Chart Index  
 
    Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days
1 (1) Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony Pictures $6,918,854 -32% 3,765 $1,838   $202,350,752 15
2 (2) Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Las… Walt Disney $5,225,332 -34% 4,232 $1,235   $544,613,735 20
3 (3) The Greatest Showman 20th Century Fox $2,627,249 -28% 3,316 $792   $60,721,504 15
4 (4) Pitch Perfect 3 Universal $2,265,195 -33% 3,468 $653   $73,828,655 13
5 (5) Ferdinand 20th Century Fox $1,725,595 -32% 3,337 $517   $61,268,677 20
6 (6) Coco Walt Disney $1,246,854 -28% 2,104 $593   $185,443,211 43
7 (8) Darkest Hour Focus Features $778,545 -17% 943 $826   $21,372,667 43
8 (7) All the Money in the World Sony Pictures $703,807 -25% 2,074 $339   $15,987,175 10
9 (9) Downsizing Paramount Pictures $632,255 -31% 2,664 $237   $20,251,632 13
10 (12) The Shape of Water Fox Searchlight $558,932 -16% 756 $739   $18,085,313 34
11 (11) Father Figures Warner Bros. $467,119 -32% 2,902 $161   $15,188,848 13

Isn't that like the first ever after the Opening Weekend that the actuals came in above the estimates.

 

34% is a bit worse than the 30% I thought it would drop.

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Just now, Jayhawk said:

I did think 700m was locked after OW. Clearly I was wrong, didn't see legs this mediocre.

 

Same. :whosad:

 

I had some really good pre OW predictions going that I abandoned...somewhere.

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1 minute ago, NoLegMan said:

I remember Scott Mendelson saying 660-720. 

 

He is generally pessimistic and it will come up short of his low end by $20m or more. He had to eat a lot of crow on TFA.

 

He wrote an article a few months ago about multipliers that makes me think he really doesn't understand how this stuff works. Revenge of the Sith opened to an absurd $50m on a Thursday at a time when no other movie had grossed more than $44-45m on Friday/Saturday and Mendelson excludes that $50m daily gross from the multiplier discussion. The correct approach on a film like Sith is to take the average of its 4-day gross ($158m) and 3-day gross ($108m), which was $133m. Then do the multiplier calculation from there.

 

Funnily enough it looks like TLJ will end up with similar legs at the end of the day. Sith at 381/133 is a 2.86 multiplier, which would be $630m gross for TLJ. Mendelson's article was all about wondering whether TLJ would be the most frontloaded Star Wars movie ever (blah blah blah).

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6 minutes ago, Hermia said:

Daily Domestic Chart for Wednesday January 3rd, 2018

← Previous Chart Chart Index  
 
    Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days
1 (1) Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony Pictures $6,918,854 -32% 3,765 $1,838   $202,350,752 15
2 (2) Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Las… Walt Disney $5,225,332 -34% 4,232 $1,235   $544,613,735 20
3 (3) The Greatest Showman 20th Century Fox $2,627,249 -28% 3,316 $792   $60,721,504 15
4 (4) Pitch Perfect 3 Universal $2,265,195 -33% 3,468 $653   $73,828,655 13
5 (5) Ferdinand 20th Century Fox $1,725,595 -32% 3,337 $517   $61,268,677 20
6 (6) Coco Walt Disney $1,246,854 -28% 2,104 $593   $185,443,211 43
7 (8) Darkest Hour Focus Features $778,545 -17% 943 $826   $21,372,667 43
8 (7) All the Money in the World Sony Pictures $703,807 -25% 2,074 $339   $15,987,175 10
9 (9) Downsizing Paramount Pictures $632,255 -31% 2,664 $237   $20,251,632 13
10 (12) The Shape of Water Fox Searchlight $558,932 -16% 756 $739   $18,085,313 34
11 (11) Father Figures Warner Bros. $467,119 -32% 2,902 $161   $15,188,848 13

using same drops as Night at the Museum for Jumanji get it to $44.6m+

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21 minutes ago, Jayhawk said:

I did think 700m was locked after OW. Clearly I was wrong, didn't see legs this mediocre. Looks like all the big stuff fell in a similar range yesterday.

It was a reasonable assumption, since even Rogue One legs would have got it to 755m.

 

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31 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Critic 1: This one wasn't great, I'm nervous.. but I think I'm going to give this one a bad review. What do you think?

 

Critic 2 was looking at their phone

 

Critic 2: Sorry I didn't catch that, hey did you see that Fox and Disney are merging. Disney will have 40% market share! I'm sorry what were you saying?

 

Critic 1: erm.. nothing important

at least we don't have to worry about critics backlashing on them avatar sequels.

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3 minutes ago, m3racer123 said:

It was a reasonable assumption, since even Rogue One legs would have got it to 755m.

 

 

Rogue One legs not easy for any movie that opens above $200m, regardless of holiday boost. That's also a decline of only 9.26% from TFA's multiplier. Not easy with opening numbers this big. TDKR multiplier dropped 17.5% from TDK multiplier. Ultron multiplier dropped 20% from Avengers multiplier. TLJ probably will end up around 23-24% drop from TFA multiplier, but TFA was pretty much a once in a lifetime franchise movie.

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