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2 minutes ago, La Binoche said:

Does A Star Is Born really qualify as a musical? The characters don't break into song mid-speech. They're musicians/artists performing songs onstage. 

I consider a musical to be a movie or show that has a story which is mostly driven by the music.

 

I’d classify A Star is Born as a musical.  

 

Id even say even The Shape of Water has musical elements

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16 hours ago, filmlover said:

Of Denzel's 11 releases over the past decade, only two of them have opened below $22M. Everybody else wishes they had that level of consistency.

Looking from the last 2 decade make it even more impressive, since 2000 for wide release of over 1,500 theater (not putting that big of a theater count limit) they all did the superstar 20m OW mark except Out of Time with 16.17m, one of is non MPAA studio release and obviously Roman Isreal (just 1,669 theater too and small budget).

 

That what succeeding at opening 17 wide release on 19.... 89.4% of the times above 20m

 

Dicaprio in the 2000s, he has 12 movies that started wide with 1,500 theater, half missed the 20m OW mark (to be fair Wolf was a december release with 3 hours run time making the 18.3m OW that above making 20m in the summer with a 2 hours movie), 50% of the time above 20m.

 

 

Some went wide after Aviator, Revolutionnary Road, Revenant of those 3 only Revenant reached 20m in the weekend it went wide.

 

Obviously DiCaprio worldwide upside is much bigger and take on leggier type of project than frontloaded genre usually, but still, that show how big Denzel capacity at opening movie has just been crazy and like a clockwork, from the Sony leak how close studio seem to be able to predict what he will do show that, but that is also because of how similar, to almost exactly the same many of those title are, a la Liam Neelson.

 

Cruise started wide 19 times in the 2000s like Denzel, missed 20m OW just 3 times also quite impressive, 84% of the time above 20m

 

Tom Hanks started wide 18 times, missed 8 times, 55% of time above 20m.

 

After Fast 5, Dwayne Johnson always went wide right away and did it 15 times, he missed 20m OW only 3 times, an also very good 80% of the time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, XO21 said:

The Rock in few months has had: a mega hit, a solid hit and a bomb....as usual star power is used when it's convenient..

Not sure exactly what you mean by that, but exit poll showed a 73% of the audience mentioning Dwayne Johnson has a reason they came see the movie in theater of a 25m opener and the way it seem to open in China I am not sure how Skyscraper would be a good example to say star power is irrelevant, do you really think that with an unknown in the lead role that movie does an almost exact same performance in almost if not all markets ? (say in the +/-4% box office)

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denzel is so consistent, his fanbase have been with him for decades. studios know the amount of money to put into his films and what they will get back. It must be comforting in these uncertain times.

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Skyscraper is not going to be a bomb.  Doesn't matter what it makes domestically.  The budget isn't high enough for it to be a bomb.

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7 minutes ago, babz06 said:

denzel is so consistent, his fanbase have been with him for decades. studios know the amount of money to put into his films and what they will get back. It must be comforting in these uncertain times.

And he's done it all without ever making a sequel (until now, that is).

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24 minutes ago, La Binoche said:

Does A Star Is Born really qualify as a musical? The characters don't break into song mid-speech. They're musicians/artists performing songs onstage. 

A movie where characters perform a bunch of songs is a musical. Doesn't matter how they go about it. By your logic Cabaret doesn't qualify as a musical.

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4 minutes ago, baumer said:

Skyscraper is not going to be a bomb.  Doesn't matter what it makes domestically.  The budget isn't high enough for it to be a bomb.

It's doing bad everywhere and cost $125m. Not exactly chump change. China is the only thing that will save it from being a bomb. 

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2 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

A movie where characters perform a bunch of songs is a musical. Doesn't matter how they go about it. By your logic Cabaret doesn't qualify as a musical.

I’d even consider things like Baby Driver and Footloose to be quasi-musicals

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21 minutes ago, baumer said:

Skyscraper is not going to be a bomb.  Doesn't matter what it makes domestically.  The budget isn't high enough for it to be a bomb.

Deadline in their breakdown last w/e said with current O/S projections Skyscraper is not going to be profitable while they and "insiders" had Rampage being profitable after 2 years of ancillary markets.

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