Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings | Marvel Studios | 92% RT & 99% VA Score | ONLY IN THEATERS Sep 3 2021

[Menor the Destroyer]

8 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

 

I think if your POV is so contrarian, you shouldn't be a film critic.

 

People need a reliable litmus test to figure out if they'll like a film. If your opinion is unrelatable then you're useless as a food taster. You're basically going to highly recommend "poisonous food".

That's ridiculous. The "consensus" is generated by the aggregate of audience opinion and people have varied opinions on many things. That's the whole point of RT and Meta.

[SpiderByte]

47 minutes ago, dudalb said:

4 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

 

Maybe, but still...the difference is Shang Chi cost a hell of  a lot more then either of above two  movies.

I dont see why that would negatively impact it's opening weekend.

[RRA]

1 hour ago, dudalb said:

Maybe, but still...the difference is Shang Chi cost a hell of  a lot more then either of above two  movies.

 

And as for the Dragon in the movie: Fin Fang Foom I presume?

FG cost at least $120 million? (I’ve seen claims it was up to 150.

 

SC cost more I’m sure, but FG had a blockbuster budget.

[Cooper Legion]

Afaik we still don't have a budget for this but if it's the 160-180 zone not really *that* much bigger than FG.

[RRA]

EC in the weekend thread predicted 60 million 3 day OW for this, which sounds good to me. 

[john2000]

1 hour ago, Lokis Legion said:

Afaik we still don't have a budget for this but if it's the 160-180 zone not really *that* much bigger than FG.

The rumored budget is 150mill

[dudalb]

2 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

I dont see why that would negatively impact it's opening weekend.

More like it has to do better numbers then the other two films because it cost a lot more.

Projections are for for a 4o to 50 million opening.

It is getting good reviews, but that did not help Suicide Squad much. I think it will do better then SS because Marvel Studios is a brand people have come to trust but I think low 50's is the best it can hope for with the Covid situation.

 

[dudalb]

1 hour ago, RRA said:

EC in the weekend thread predicted 60 million 3 day OW for this, which sounds good to me. 

Most of the projections I am reading are in the 45 to 55 Million range, but that would be very good for a Covid era film.

 

[Ronin46]

1 minute ago, dudalb said:

More like it has to do better numbers then the other two films because it cost a lot more.

Projections are for for a 4o to 50 million opening.

It is getting good reviews, but that did not help Suicide Squad much. I think it will do better then SS because Marvel Studios is a brand people have come to trust but I think low 50's is the best it can hope for with the Covid situation.

 

 

Low 50s for the 3day or the 4 day weekend ?

 

Seems like previews are heading towards 8 to 9m now so I think 60m for the 3day is the floor for now.  

[Barnack]

3 hours ago, grey ghost said:

 

 

I think if your POV is so contrarian, you shouldn't be a film critic.

 

People need a reliable litmus test to figure out if they'll like a film. If your opinion is unrelatable then you're useless as a food taster. You're basically going to highly recommend "poisonous food".

I think you are mixing movie reviewer and film critic, it make sense for a reviewer what you say, but a critic job is not just (or mostly) access if the average people have a good chance to like a movie.

 

A film critic is helping is reader (listener, viewer) contextualizing an oeuvre in the context of it's time (social, cultural, etc...) and of it's auteur body of work and so on. In short critics often produce content for people that have seen the movie already, reviewer is more before you've seen it.

 

And for both the movie and food critics, there is never poisonous food or high stake danger involved.

Edited August 31, 2021 by Barnack

[Ronin46]

Pauline Kael had some pretty contrarian type takes back  the day with her reviews. She absolutely loathed Rain Man for example. Plenty of other very well received movies she did not like. 

Casablanca, Raging Bull, 2001, Blade Runner and a Clockwork Orange were other movies she did not really enjoy.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2021 by Ronin46
added some more movies

[Cooper Legion]

45 minutes ago, dudalb said:

low 50's is the best it can hope for with the Covid situation.

Excellent commentary on the 2day cume here.

[lilmac]

$40M-$45M OW

I also think Bond will be the next $200M grosser.

[Cooper Legion]

4 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Shang-Chi set and ready for a cool 60M 4 day weekend. It will dominate all of September.

This comment is as all things should be.

[Porthos]

1 hour ago, dudalb said:

More like it has to do better numbers then the other two films because it cost a lot more.

Projections are for for a 4o to 50 million opening.

It is getting good reviews, but that did not help Suicide Squad much. I think it will do better then SS because Marvel Studios is a brand people have come to trust but I think low 50's is the best it can hope for with the Covid situation.

 

 

I did some looking about and as far as I can tell, the only actual projection/tracking out there is from Box Office Pro.  Haven't seen anything else from The Wrap, Variety, THR, or Deadline.

 

BOP does have this:

 

9/3/2021

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings

$35,000,000 – $55,000,000

$100,000,000 – $165,000,000

Disney / Marvel Studios

 

But that was made before a single ticket was sold.  I suspect when @Shawn puts out the weekend forecast in a few days it will be a tad higher.

 

(I would also note that 33-55 range is for the 3day, not the 4day)
 

23 minutes ago, lilmac said:

$40M-$45M OW

I also think Bond will be the next $200M grosser.

 

Pre-sales are very very very probably too strong for this to open at 40-45.

 

Is a chance regional trackers are over-estimating, but I don't think by that much.

Edited August 31, 2021 by Porthos

[KJsooner]

1 hour ago, dudalb said:

More like it has to do better numbers then the other two films because it cost a lot more.

Projections are for for a 4o to 50 million opening.

It is getting good reviews, but that did not help Suicide Squad much. I think it will do better then SS because Marvel Studios is a brand people have come to trust but I think low 50's is the best it can hope for with the Covid situation.

 

 
Is this your ‘excuse’ for everything? You’re such a f**king clown. You’ve been pretty much wrong about everything the last year on here, what is one more stupid/wrong prediction?

[Cooper Legion]

I hoped we would get a public LRF update last Friday, but we didn’t. I’m confident that the BOP internal range is 45-65 at bare minimum as of that update, but the weekend forecast probably 52-75 or so. Add 25% for a rough and dirty 4day.

Edited August 31, 2021 by Lokis Legion

[Jamiem]

On 8/30/2021 at 12:26 AM, Lokis Legion said:

Give it another few days to finalize for safety and tradition, but feeling a flop bar™️ of 72,810,712

 

Looks about right for the 3 day.

 

I'm still sticking with my rough guess from the weekend thread of 80m for the 3 day and on top of that I'll say 105m for the 4 day. 

[grey ghost]

4 hours ago, Menor said:

That's ridiculous. The "consensus" is generated by the aggregate of audience opinion and people have varied opinions on many things. That's the whole point of RT and Meta.

 

I don't see the point of someone who gives Catwoman five stars and The Godfather a rotten.

 

It just distorts the score.

 

Too many of those critics and it renders RT scores useless. Luckily most critics aren't contrarians.

[CoolioD1]

won't say who but i was just looking through a certain actor's filmography after watching them in a movie and i guess i got spoiled on who's in the post credits scene for this. lol.