The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other

[B D Joe]

WB is pulling out all the stops to build buzz for this.

[SpiderByte]

The "best superhero movie ever" hype they're building could backfire if it doesn't live up to it. They have a lot riding on Flash.

[excel1]

5 hours ago, TMP said:

jacob elordi superman, tom cruise lex luthor, a billie guaranteed 

cc: @excel1

 

+ comeback kings Brendan Fraser as Jor-el, Short Round as a much older than usual Jimmy Olson, and Josh Hartnett/Sarah Michelle Gellar as Dad/Mom Kent. 

[lorddemaxus]

5 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

+ comeback kings Brendan Fraser as Jor-el, Short Round as a much older than usual Jimmy Olson, and Josh Hartnett/Sarah Michelle Gellar as Dad/Mom Kent. 

Who is Lois Lane gunna be?

[excel1]

6 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

Who is Lois Lane gunna be?

 

someone trendy like Jenna Ortega or a nepo baby. Maybe Keirnan Shipka. Maybe Selena Gomez w/ Hailey Bieber cast as the likable female villain?

Edited March 18, 2023 by excel1

[Notthereverseflash24]

6 hours ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

Cruise was probably given the screener as depicted but the implicit narrative in this line "It was a call out of the blue for the director. Cruise is said to have raved about the movie" is obviously bullshit. WB is shocked, shocked, to get pull quotes to advertise a film from a marketing stunt. WB only has stuff to work with because Tom Cruise was intrinsically compelled to call the director. The timing/stunt nature of this is just so hysterically overt as to retroactively call prior claims into question. Perhaps that's an overreaction but I don't think you can read something like this too skeptically. 

At bare minimum, this seems like a good, crowdpleasing movie. The simplest assumption is that Cruise was given a screener, genuinely liked it, and gave genuine quasi-on the record praise to the director that everyone knew would be excerpted for marketing. The actual pull quotes are both consistent with an 8/10 review and an 11/10 "give this film a best picture nomination for being such an amazing action movie" review (and WB is really pushing the latter interpretation).

For Cruise to contest this, you'd need an active step to spark a big, public fight for no personal benefit. Even something as baldfaced as the lie about Momoa's Frosty the Snowman didn't prompt an immediate slapdown. 

Or maybe... just maybe he really liked it? You don't have to cook up some grand conspiracy theory, it's just capeshit.

[Notthereverseflash24]

6 hours ago, GOGODanca said:

The movie probably is great but to put out this article claming the biggest movie star in the world was asking to see the movie and declared it a cinematic savior just screams misdirection to take attention away from Shazam 2

I don't think WB gives a shit about Shazam 2 lol

[PlatnumRoyce]

4 hours ago, Notthereverseflash24 said:

Or maybe... just maybe he really liked it? You don't have to cook up some grand conspiracy theory, it's just capeshit.

But it's not capeshit, it's the intersection of the trade press and marketing/public relations for a project WB's going to spend over half a billion dollars on at the end of the day.  That's just an inherently "conspiratorial" axis even if it's banal conspiracies instead of grand conspiracies.  

[Notthereverseflash24]

6 hours ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

But it's not capeshit, it's the intersection of the trade press and marketing/public relations for a project WB's going to spend over half a billion dollars on at the end of the day.  That's just an inherently "conspiratorial" axis even if it's banal conspiracies instead of grand conspiracies.  

Do you have any proof to back this up?

[AMC Theaters Enjoyer]

You never see a movie, even a big blockbuster like this, get a whole article in a major trade like THR about how the biggest movie star on the planet loved it so much. Between this, the year of claims about how the movie is "so good guys for real" from insiders and execs (Gunn and Zaslav hyping it up while the other DC films this year are barely acknowledged), WB returning to the Super Bowl just for it and none of their other movies, there's just something weird about how this movie is being pushed. Particularly given WB's current state and their lack of consistent hits over the past few years.

 

It'll be funny if (most likely when), after all this, the movie just gets meh reviews and barely grosses more than Quantumania.

[JWR]

25 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

You never see a movie, even a big blockbuster like this, get a whole article in a major trade like THR about how the biggest movie star on the planet loved it so much. Between this, the year of claims about how the movie is "so good guys for real" from insiders and execs (Gunn and Zaslav hyping it up while the other DC films this year are barely acknowledged), WB returning to the Super Bowl just for it and none of their other movies, there's just something weird about how this movie is being pushed. Particularly given WB's current state and their lack of consistent hits over the past few years.

 

It'll be funny if (most likely when), after all this, the movie just gets meh reviews and barely grosses more than Quantumania.

 

Or... maybe it's really good and WBD is working double time to get people hyped?

[PlatnumRoyce]

1 hour ago, Notthereverseflash24 said:

Do you have any proof to back this up?

To back up what? The true claim I'm making is that this entire genre of poorly sourced rumors dripped by studios to press is inherently not all that credible and I outlined why I think this specific story as outlined doesn't make conceptual sense to me. That's really it. Fundamentally it's just a weird, fluffy press release literally just providing pro-Flash "pull quotes" based on off-the-record sources that WB is laundering through the trades. THR isn't even really making claims to independent reporting on this article beyond being the stenographer for WB. There's really nothing more to it than that.

Tom Cruise liking a movie and giving it private praise isn't inherently a news item. This is pretty clearly part of marketing campaign by the studio. I just place less weight on the fact this got published than trades publishing some real news.

[eddyxx]

20 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

>Now it has fan outside the studio walls in actor, superstar and cinema-saver Tom Cruise.

 

Why is Cruise getting all the credit? surely the whole saving cinemas was more of a group effort, and by may 2022 most had already returned

Cause Spielberg said that he saved cinema.

[Notthereverseflash24]

2 hours ago, JWR said:

 

Or... maybe it's really good and WBD is working double time to get people hyped?

Damned if they do and damned if they don't lmao

[cax16]

Wow, there’s a lot of stupid posts in this thread the last few days. 

[upriser7]

22 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

>Now it has fan outside the studio walls in actor, superstar and cinema-saver Tom Cruise.

 

Why is Cruise getting all the credit? surely the whole saving cinemas was more of a group effort, and by may 2022 most had already returned

if anything, Marvel/Sony deserve more credit for saving cinema with NWH than TGM lol

[AMC Theaters Enjoyer]

3 hours ago, JWR said:

 

Or... maybe it's really good and WBD is working double time to get people hyped?

 

Again, when is the last time a superhero or any blockbuster had an entire article about how much a major actor who has nothing to do with it or its franchise loved it be published in a trade?

 

Maybe the movie is good, but given all the bad PR around this movie since it began development and the rumors of it being one of the most expensive DC movies ever made, this isn't a case of "it's just good and they wanna get people hyped." 

Edited March 18, 2023 by AMC Theaters Enjoyer

[robertman2]

42 minutes ago, cax16 said:

Wow, there’s a lot of stupid posts in this thread the last few days. 

When is there not lol

[grim22]

19 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

 

Again, when is the last time a superhero or any blockbuster had an entire article about how much a major actor who has nothing to do with it or its franchise loved it be published in a trade?

 

Maybe the movie is good, but given all the bad PR around this movie since it began development and the rumors of it being one of the most expensive DC movies ever made, this isn't a case of "it's just good and they wanna get people hyped." 

Or maybe it's really good and they want to get people hyped.

[Dragoncaine]

4 hours ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

You never see a movie, even a big blockbuster like this, get a whole article in a major trade like THR about how the biggest movie star on the planet loved it so much. Between this, the year of claims about how the movie is "so good guys for real" from insiders and execs (Gunn and Zaslav hyping it up while the other DC films this year are barely acknowledged), WB returning to the Super Bowl just for it and none of their other movies, there's just something weird about how this movie is being pushed. Particularly given WB's current state and their lack of consistent hits over the past few years.

 

It'll be funny if (most likely when), after all this, the movie just gets meh reviews and barely grosses more than Quantumania.

Crazy, I know. Almost like the movie should be really good.